Fundamentalism and the Search for God

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TonyBS said:
From Dictionary

a: - Movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching b : the beliefs of this movement c : adherence to such beliefs.

Regards Tony
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Literalism is causing people to look elsewhere for their spiritual fix.
 
worldcitizen said:
Literalism is causing people to look elsewhere for their spiritual fix.
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You can not contain the Beauty and Power of God Word. It is all embracing with inexauhastable meaning.

Each letter a power betyond imagining.

Let’s all embrace our one God and let the Unity of Gods Word light out Souls for eternity. A Unity in Diversity is a great start to this journey.

In saying this Gods Laws are Fundamental to the Path we do travel in finding God, thus there is an aspect of Gods Faith that is binding and all must shelter within those Laws.

God bless all and regards Tony
 
TonyBS said:
Amen to that

Hope you had a good Easter memorial

Regards Tony
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Appreciate your thinking of me.

It was and is always a Easter celebration. As an Easter people we are thankful always for the promise made!

Can you clarify what you mean by Amen? Because Thorton Chase didn’t think so. He claimed more to come as if he didn’t understand the meaning of not Peace but a Sword. :eek:

MJ
 
worldcitizen said:
Literalism is causing people to look elsewhere for their spiritual fix.
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Which group of people are looking for a spiritual fix? A spirit that proclaims Jesus came in the Flesh is of God. Only those who don’t will be still searching. :eek:

MJ
 
worldcitizen said:
Thr human race.
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Which human race though? The New Age believers I can say are still looking for a “fix”. Unfortunately, they don’t realize Jesus saved them from eternal death. This “fix” is not a Holy one.

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
Which human race though? The New Age believers I can say are still looking for a “fix”. Unfortunately, they don’t realize Jesus saved them from eternal death. This “fix” is not a Holy one.

MJ
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Religion in its current form is being rejected by humanity. Only the message of Baha’u’llah and His Teachings are being welcomed by humanity.

There are tons of links showing the decline of Christianity and empty churches being sold. but I don’t know which are ok to post here.

*“The whole of mankind is groaning, is dying to be led to unity, and to terminate its age-long martyrdom. And yet it stubbornly refuses to embrace the light and acknowledge the sovereign authority of the one Power that can extricate it from its entanglements, and avert the woeful calamity that threatens to engulf it. …” - Baha’u’llah *

(World a Order of Baha’u’llah )
 
worldcitizen said:
Religion in its current form is being rejected by humanity. Only the message of Baha’u’llah and His Teachings are being welcomed by humanity.

There are tons of links showing the decline of Christianity and empty churches being sold. but I don’t know which are ok to post here.

*“The whole of mankind is groaning, is dying to be led to unity, and to terminate its age-long martyrdom. And yet it stubbornly refuses to embrace the light and acknowledge the sovereign authority of the one Power that can extricate it from its entanglements, and avert the woeful calamity that threatens to engulf it. …” - Baha’u’llah *

(World a Order of Baha’u’llah )
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So what is your motive worldcitizen? This thread seems like just to promote Bahai.

It is not surprising when you left the Church. You still haven’t shown you understood the Mass.

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
So what is your motive worldcitizen? This thread seems like just to promote Bahai.

It is not surprising when you left the Church. You still haven’t shown you understood the Mass.

MJ
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Objective is world peace and unity of religion and fundamentalism is a sickness, cancer and obstacle preventing humanity from having peace and getting along with each other.
 
MartinJordan said:
So what is your motive worldcitizen? MJ
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Love Martin, Love 👍

You do not have to agree with what is said, but that is the Motivation, that is why we are here.

God bless us with the ability to share his Love

Regards Tony
 
TonyBS said:
Love Martin, Love 👍

You do not have to agree with what is said, but that is the Motivation, that is why we are here.

God bless us with the ability to share his Love

Regards Tony
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Yes Tony, the world seeks love and unity and only that can heal it’s wounds.

Spoke to my niece in Haifa this morning she is headed to Mount Carmel to pray for you all right now.
 
worldcitizen said:
Yes Tony, the world seeks love and unity and only that can heal it’s wounds.

Spoke to my niece in Haifa this morning she is headed to Mount Carmel to pray for you all right now.
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God bless Her and all Humanity David, thank her very much for those special prayers.

God bless you and our friends here on CAF and may we share much Love and Unity.

Regards Tony
 
Let’s look at God. He’s All Loving without distinction or discrimination. His sun shines upon both the good and bad alike.

The All Loving Uniting God created no borders, no boundaries or politica/religious separations/divides . He created one world.

This All Loving God created man and woman. He created all humanity as one race.

So this All Loving God created one sun to shine upon one whole earth inhabited by one human race.

God didn’t play favourites. He shared His love with all.

Then came fundamentalism which set out to destroy the oneness and unity He created dividing race against race, religion against religion in a shameless contest for supremacy. But is this fundamentalism the way God acts towards humanity?? No it is truly godless although claiming to be godly.

We are the chosen people, no we are and it goes on endlessly war after war and division after division. Where did this sickness of the spirit come from? Not from God. He views us universally and loves us all unconditionally.

Until this corrosive, divisive fundamentalism is wiped off the face of the earth and replaced with unconditional love for all the world we will never have peace.

No religion, prophet, messiah, God, people, race, nationality or religion is superior to any other. It’s delusional to think one’s beliefs or race or religion are superior because that is against God Himself Who loves us all as one humanity unconditionally.

The only thing for humanity to do is accept each other with their differences and accept there are no chosen race, people or religions on earth. That we are all one human race under one God.

If we can accept we are all one humanity under God we can have peace. But this can be achieved only if we love God and humanity unconditionally.
 
worldcitizen said:
Let’s look at God. He’s All Loving without distinction or discrimination. His sun shines upon both the good and bad alike.

The All Loving Uniting God created no borders, no boundaries or politica/religious separations/divides . He created one world.

This All Loving God created man and woman. He created all humanity as one race.

So this All Loving God created one sun to shine upon one whole earth inhabited by one human race.

God didn’t play favourites. He shared His love with all.

Then came fundamentalism which set out to destroy the oneness and unity He created dividing race against race, religion against religion in a shameless contest for supremacy. But is this fundamentalism the way God acts towards humanity?? No it is truly godless although claiming to be godly.

We are the chosen people, no we are and it goes on endlessly war after war and division after division. Where did this sickness of the spirit come from? Not from God. He views us universally and loves us all unconditionally.

Until this corrosive, divisive fundamentalism is wiped off the face of the earth and replaced with unconditional love for all the world we will never have peace.

No religion, prophet, messiah, God, people, race, nationality or religion is superior to any other. It’s delusional to think one’s beliefs or race or religion are superior because that is against God Himself Who loves us all as one humanity unconditionally.

The only thing for humanity to do is accept each other with their differences and accept there are no chosen race, people or religions on earth. That we are all one human race under one God.

If we can accept we are all one humanity under God we can have peace. But this can be achieved only if we love God and humanity unconditionally.
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That is Love for our One God 😊

God bless and Regards Tony
 
worldcitizen said:
Hi Friends,

In the last century or so there’s been a rise in fundamentalism accompanied by a mass rejection of the traditional notions of God.

With the technological age dawning, and with man being ever so better educated to read and investigate truth for himself, questions have arisen about the usefulness and concepts of religion in our age.

This crass materialism has now spread throughout the word and it threatens the survival of religion itself. Materialism, capitalism and consumerism are seen as the new saviours and gods and have established a religion of ungodliness throughout the world unparalleled in human history.

Alarming as the new age has been to the deeply religious, many have joined in groups of fundamentalists seeking to bring back ‘the good old days’ when religion was part of every man’s life and godliness was the bread and butter of society. Some elements of fundamentalism believe that we need to go ‘back to the basics’. While others say it’s a war of God vs the devil of materialism and ungodliness which they see sprung from the west and being a direct threat to God. So fanatics arise to establish a Holy World Order to replace the wests’s material order.

Has humanity really strayed from ‘true religion’? Or has it rejected what the mind can no longer accept? Has humanity out worn the shibboleths we have relied on for centuries and will only accept faith based upon reason?

Has science destroyed the idols we have been so fond of for centuries?

Has humanity rejected the old ways and embarked on a new SEARCH FOR GOD???

I think it has and humanity now is looking for practical solutions from religion not just esoteric experiences. People expect a better world from religion not just passive beliefs which it seems to view as useless and of no value anymore.

What kinds of things is humanity rejecting about religion and what will turn man back to God? A forced Jihad? or the return of Christ ? or maybe a completely, new paradigm of religion never thought of before?

We need peace, a better life and human rights for all. If all religion can do is fight each other for supremacy will humanity discard it altogether?

How can we bring humanity back to God?
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Has humanity really strayed from ‘true religion’? Or has it rejected what the mind can no longer accept? Has humanity out worn the shibboleths we have relied on for centuries and will only accept faith based upon reason?
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Religion is not the true issue here; it is rather man making gods, rather than seeking FAITH in God.
Has science destroyed the idols we have been so fond of for centuries?
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Not in any meaningful sense 🤷

Science can only further prove the existence of the Supreme Power that we Christians choose to identify as OUR GOD:)
Has humanity rejected the old ways and embarked on a new SEARCH FOR GOD???
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What prompts this question?

I personally don’t see any evidence of this. Quite the opposite.

Legalized abortion:eek:

same sex unions they wish to term “marriage”::eek:

Genderless lockerrooms and bathromms::eek:

Government is trying to create our gods for us i line with their complete lack of mortality and dismemberment of TRUTH.🤷

PJM
 
worldcitizen said:
Objective is world peace and unity of religion and fundamentalism is a sickness, cancer and obstacle preventing humanity from having peace and getting along with each other.
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World peace is an earthly notion and carnal. We’re not running for office nor a beauty pageant. Dignity for every human being first. That means tolerating diversity but not at the expense of things of Heaven where Christ is sitting at God’s right hand.

MJ
 
PJM said:
Religion is not the true issue here; it is rather man making gods, rather than seeking FAITH in God.

Not in any meaningful sense 🤷

Science can only further prove the existence of the Supreme Power that we Christians choose to identify as OUR GOD:)

What prompts this question?

I personally don’t see any evidence of this. Quite the opposite.

Legalized abortion:eek:

same sex unions they wish to term “marriage”::eek:

Genderless lockerrooms and bathromms::eek:

Government is trying to create our gods for us i line with their complete lack of mortality and dismemberment of TRUTH.🤷

PJM
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:sad_yes:

MJ
 
TonyBS said:
Love Martin, Love 👍

You do not have to agree with what is said, but that is the Motivation, that is why we are here.

God bless us with the ability to share his Love

Regards Tony
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Love love love all you need is love? Love is all you need?

Imagine there’s no Heaven no religion too.

No thanks.

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
World peace is an earthly notion and carnal. We’re not running for office nor a beauty pageant. Dignity for every human being first. That means tolerating diversity but not at the expense of things of Heaven where Christ is sitting at God’s right hand.

MJ
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If you look closely at Isaiah and Revelation it’s all about ending war, world peace and a new life both spiritual and material for the peoples of the world.

Fundamentalism concentrates on the opposite, causing division and hatred in the name of religion. True religion unites and is not buried in theology but is more concerned about the revival and betterment of humanity. If religion fails to unite and bring peace to the earth it is of no use to the world.

Fundamentalism focuses on the exaltation and supremacy of one faith over another and only causes hatred, wars, prejudice and disunity.

Fundamentalism is internal looking, seeking to establish its own ascendancy rather than focusing on creating a better world. It is a selfish form of religion and therefore not true religion but just the outward form. It is not what Christ taught.

Fundamentalism seeks world domination not world peace or world unity and is willing to sacrifice lives, friendships, world peace and unity to exalt itself.

Fundamentalism gets lost in theology instead of compassionate humanitarianism which is what religion is all about, to prefer others to ourselves.

Fundamentalism is not any one religion but is an obsession or fixation in a person or groups mind that only their way is the path to salvation and things like world peace are not high on their agenda.

Christ came for love. Today, it’s universal love or annihilation. If religion cannot unite it’s useless. Humanity needs a force to bring it together and fundamentalism is what destroys and separates people not brings them together.

If a person is ill and on their deathbed and a doctor is required the true religionist doesn’t question the doctors beliefs but the fundamentalist, not truly concerned about the patient insists it must be his doctor and would reject the doctor with the medicine and allow the patient to die unless it was his chosen doctor.

This is the state of our world today. Why don’t religions bury their selfish, self centred differences and unite for the sake of humanity? God is love and not competing for world domination as He already owns the world.

If religionists consider themselves true lovers of God and humanity then unite!!! Let’s all come together for the sake of God and humanity!! Let us Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist all become as one family and live together in peace. What has been the result of condemning each other’s beliefs as false? Wars, prejudice, alienation. Where are the fruits? Beliefs that do not unite are fit for the fire. Christ came for love. God is love. We must become love too.

Fundamentalism is the sickness of this age and it must die and give way to a wider loyalty and love for humanity if the endgame is love and not self supremacy.

It’s not about the exaltation of any brand of religion but all about the salvation of a war weary and suffering humanity. We must be unselfish and unitedly go to humanitys rescue.

The search for God is about people rejecting fundamentalism and searching for the God that loves all humanity unconditionally. How many wars have been fought in the name of religion and what was achieved? It’s time to unite. It’s time to love all mankind. It’s time to work together for a better world.
 
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