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Why is Christianity constantly targeted by fundamentalist atheists?
Whether it be the destruction of Nativity scenes, or descimination of the Holy Eurcharist, they always have something up their sleeves to chastise and ridicule those who have faith. But why? Can you imagine the sheer outrage if they attacked Ramadan for example?
Or if they ridiculed Hanukkah, or Passover!?

I thought religious freedom was a natural right after all?! 🤷

Why is Christianity such an easy target? What can we do to stop the uprising of secularism, or in fact atheism?

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I guess some grew up in legalistic or painful Christian homes. We ought to pray for them. I know it’s hard to deal with being irrationally hated during a time of wonder and joy but this is how our faith cut its eyeteeth, and the early days were a lot worse. Now only a slight majority of the world’s Christians are under intense persecution. It used to be all Christians. So we might take it as a reminder to pray for one another and for those who hate us so.
I obect, BTW, to the broadening of the word “fundamentalist”. The word refers to something there is no other name for, and shouldn’t lose its meaning as long as we have actual fundamentalists to describe.
Fundamentalism is a belief in the “Fundamentals” of a certain type of Evangelicalism outlined in the late 19th Century in the US.
 
lemonbeam said:
Why is Christianity constantly targeted by fundamentalist atheists?
Whether it be the destruction of Nativity scenes, or descimination of the Holy Eurcharist, they always have something up their sleeves to chastise and ridicule those who have faith. But why? Can you imagine the sheer outrage if they attacked Ramadan for example?
Or if they ridiculed Hanukkah, or Passover!?

I thought religious freedom was a natural right after all?! 🤷

Why is Christianity such an easy target? What can we do to stop the uprising of secularism, or in fact atheism?

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Hardcore Atheists aren’t the only predators, here. There are a fair few Christian extremists out there, along with extremists from other religions.

Christianity is an easy target because Christians allow it to be. We’re the ones trying to convert people–whether it’d be a Mormon/Jehovah’s Witness knocking on everyone’s door, or a Protestant quoting the Bible to justify certain thoughts or actions, or even one of us Catholics telling them they’re going to Hell for breaking a mere rule.

We’ve set ourselves up, and the only way to stop it is to accept the fact that Christianity is not for everyone. There will be Atheists or Agnostics in this world whether we like it or not. I certainly don’t mind it–I absolutely love the diversity and critical thinking these people have! It’s something to admire, really… but absolute theft if we were to try and take it away.

Anyways, bottom line: Just leave them alone; don’t tell them things they already know and don’t want to hear unless they are interested. Encourage others to do the same. As for Atheists who may be bothering you personally: Agree to disagree.

Ironically Yours, Blade and Blood
 
While agree that it is never right to destroy property like that and especially not to target religious figures and such. I also think we must not forget what we do have. We are blessed to live in a country where religious freedom is so expected it is taken for granted. Try for a moment to wrap your head around what it would’ve been like to live in Jesus’ time under the thumb of the Roman empire. One historian summed it up pretty well when he pointed out that when Christ preached the coming of the Kingdom of God, “the very fact that he used the word kingdom to refer to anything other than the Roman Empire was considered a challenge to Roman authority.” Here in America we have the right to protest and petition and such (i.e the Walk for Life) but in the time of Jesus, if you even verbally challenged the actions and/or authority of the Roman empire, it was off with your head or worse.
 
You have to stop and consider that someone who disagrees with most anything to the point of willingness to destroy something another holds dear…is not only criminal, but may well be exhibiting some sociopathic tendencies.

Society has contributed to these issues by allowing societal deterioration of core values…and adopting attitudes like “anything goes”, and the failure of society as a whole to hold governments responsible for the job that they are charged with. Its a big playing field, and a wide open discussion…but the core problem is that most of these people do these things with little or no fear of penalty when caught. If they are juveniles, which could be quite possible, there is virtually no concern over penalties.

Recently, a good friend of mine went to court against a teenager who had broken into her house, stolen things and caused damage, as well as accessed her computer and ran up bills on porno sites…and the kid had been witnessed entering her home. Seems its easier to move a mountain than deal with a juvenile. While she was there, four other teenagers were to appear for “shoplifting”…but the stores that charged them didn’t bother to show up. My friend said the kids were “high-fiving” each other in front of the judge when the charges were dismissed.

Oh well…and that’s a sad commentary.

I think, were I an atheist, which I am not…I could understand how some might react to someone getting in their face, literally assaulting them over the issue of religion… I would probably be inclined to grant a few moments of 4 corner counseling myself.

There are “christians”…and I used the small “c” because I don’t view these people as being followers of Christ. They are judgmental, arrogant, loud, boisterous, and will condemn anyone who does not see things as they do. I think that people of faith (Christians)are their own worst enemies…because they fail generally to actually abide by the Word. Many are extremely intolerant of others…especially those that do not ascribe to their beliefs. This movie clip shows how some of it works: article6themovie.com/

Here is the point of it all:

THE CATALYST
The documentary Article VI is an intense discussion of the role of faith in politics. In the heat of the current presidential campaign, Article VI makes an unbiased presentation on a volatile topic. It asks voters whether they would have denied America some of the greatest presidents in history because of their religious beliefs. Article VI of the constitution ignites the film’s exploration of the current political environment, religious bigotry, and intolerance in America. article6themovie.com/about.php
 
lemonbeam said:
Why is Christianity constantly targeted by fundamentalist atheists?
Whether it be the destruction of Nativity scenes, or descimination of the Holy Eurcharist, they always have something up their sleeves to chastise and ridicule those who have faith. But why? Can you imagine the sheer outrage if they attacked Ramadan for example?
Or if they ridiculed Hanukkah, or Passover!?

I thought religious freedom was a natural right after all?! 🤷

Why is Christianity such an easy target? What can we do to stop the uprising of secularism, or in fact atheism?

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In a world made dark by despair and hopelessness, just a small light will attract all attention from every distant direction. There are those who rejoice in the Light but there are those who cannot accept its implications. Those who cannot accept, or are jealous of, the Light will try to make the rest of humanity share their despair and hopelessness, hence they extinguish it with all their might.

When you are attacked for the Light inside you, know that the attackers suffer more than you do.
 
Just that Christianity is the biggest target. As Neo-Paganism, Buddhism and Islam grow they too are coming under attack.

We’ve had a person read from the Qur’an and spit in it after words.

A person use the scriptures of Buddhism as toliet paper.

Then Atheist groups cutting down the sabblings a Neo-Pagan group planted in there grove.

Expect to hear more of this as these three faiths grow in North America and Europe.
 
cyberwolf001 said:
Just that Christianity is the biggest target. As Neo-Paganism, Buddhism and Islam grow they too are coming under attack.
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This makes sense. Its why most viruses and malware target Windows, especially Internet Explorer. Bigger targets present more opportunities to make mischief.

However, I do wonder about the OP’s claims of nativity scene destruction. How many times does this happen? Is it know that atheists (instead of just vandals) are behind such attacks?
 
Dale_M said:
This makes sense. Its why most viruses and malware target Windows, especially Internet Explorer. Bigger targets present more opportunities to make mischief.

However, I do wonder about the OP’s claims of nativity scene destruction. How many times does this happen? Is it know that atheists (instead of just vandals) are behind such attacks?
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You make a good point…

Not long ago, there were a number of Christian Churches being burnt down…there was much “speculation” as to who was doing it, and the net sum total of who did it: Three teenagers, all who appear to have come from good families…and who attended private colleges…and at least one or more of them was from a Christian family…go figure 🤷 You have to wonder if some people do things just so they can complain about what was done?
 
Dale_M said:
This makes sense. Its why most viruses and malware target Windows, especially Internet Explorer. Bigger targets present more opportunities to make mischief.

However, I do wonder about the OP’s claims of nativity scene destruction. How many times does this happen? Is it know that atheists (instead of just vandals) are behind such attacks?
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Sometimes it is Atheist but rarely. Sometimes Satanists or Pagans, rarest of all is Christians doing it to stir up an Us vs. Them mentality and rally the Faithful against the World.

Normally it is just bored spoiled brats looking to have a laugh.
RobHom said:
You make a good point…

Not long ago, there were a number of Christian Churches being burnt down…there was much “speculation” as to who was doing it, and the net sum total of who did it: Three teenagers, all who appear to have come from good families…and who attended private colleges…and at least one or more of them was from a Christian family…go figure 🤷 You have to wonder if some people do things just so they can complain about what was done?
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Truth with the last question. Sometimes it’s been done to rally the troops as I said above.
 
I must be living in an alternate universe. There are a number of atheist groups around the Twin Cities but I have never heard a “fundamentalist atheist.” Since they don’t have scripture, it is hard to understand how they could be “fundamentalist.” Also, I have not heard about violence against Christians carried out by atheists. The information I have about them is that most atheists are cultural heirs of 18th and 19th century deists exercising Enlightenment reasoning in the style of Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson. The most offensive thing I have heard them do lately was to erect a sign somewhere that attacked religious belief as a waste of time or some such. That was in the news a couple of weeks ago I think. All in all they seem non-threatening in any physical sense.
 
lemonbeam said:
Why is Christianity constantly targeted by fundamentalist atheists?
Whether it be the destruction of Nativity scenes, or descimination of the Holy Eurcharist, they always have something up their sleeves to chastise and ridicule those who have faith. But why?
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They do this because they are living in denial of the obvious fact that there is a God and they have wasted their lives trying to deny Him.

We should pray for them. At least this shows there is some inner turmoil and that not all hope is lost for them.
 
I thought there was a moratorium on these idiotic and retarded hate and bash atheist threads.
 
Starwynd said:
I thought there was a moratorium on these idiotic and retarded hate and bash atheist threads.
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Bashing is a harsh, gratuitous, predjudicial attack on a person, group or subject. Literally, bashing is a term meaning to hit or, colloquially, to assault but when it is used as a suffix, or in conjunction with a noun indicating the subject being attacked, it is normally used to imply a sense of uncompromising vehemence and bigotry about the assailant.

What I read in this thread are comments(although with some sqeal of heart ache) to answer the OP and I did not find “bashing” of the same type as defined.
 
Chancellare said:
What I read in this thread are comments(although with some sqeal of heart ache) to answer the OP and I did not find “bashing” of the same type as defined.
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Whether it is bashing or not, I suppose, depends on whether you believe such a group exists and that they are engaged in the activity which the OP claims. I’m skeptical about the latter and about the size of the former. The OP offered no examples or evidence so its a bit hard to discuss. But i don’t doubt that person’s sincerity.
 
Being a good Catholic, you wouldn’t. The sum of this thread is all Atheists are evil and only Christians can be good people because only Christians are victims of atheists, and no Christian ever sees the victimization of atheists because all they are doing is telling the truth and it is in the name of love.

And I’m done with this completely asinine thread.
 
Starwynd said:
Being a good Catholic, you wouldn’t. The sum of this thread is all Atheists are evil and only Christians can be good people because only Christians are victims of atheists, and no Christian ever sees the victimization of atheists because all they are doing is telling the truth and it is in the name of love.
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I guess you missed the part where I stated Pagans and Buddhists are also victims of Atheist and Atheist are in turn victims of religious types and ya know the people here agreed with me.
 
Starwynd said:
Being a good Catholic, you wouldn’t. The sum of this thread is all Atheists are evil and only Christians can be good people because only Christians are victims of atheists, and no Christian ever sees the victimization of atheists because all they are doing is telling the truth and it is in the name of love.

And I’m done with this completely asinine thread.
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I didn’t see that anywhere in the thread.
 
Starwynd said:
Being a good Catholic, you wouldn’t. The sum of this thread is all Atheists are evil and only Christians can be good people because only Christians are victims of atheists, and no Christian ever sees the victimization of atheists because all they are doing is telling the truth and it is in the name of love.

And I’m done with this completely asinine thread.
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Are you saying that atheists are victims too?:eek:
By whom?:eek:
 
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