Game of Thrones - new season

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Anyone watching the new season of Game of Thrones? Anyone reading/read the books?
 
Yeah totally

Only watching the series though, it is sooo good i don’t even care to read the books.

Go House Lannister! 🍿
 
Welp, I guess that answers my question. I was getting excited there was a show about the angelic hierarchy.
 
Yeah, I don’t know how a Catholic can watch this series. I watched a little bit of the first season, enough to see that there was porn at least every other episode. I think HBO and all those premium channels are obsessed with porn. They take a perfectly good premise and fill it with porn. It probably does increase the ratings, but I will not support that. It also helps I am saving money now not paying for any of those premium channels anymore. I can’t even be tempted to watch them.
 
Anyone watching the new season of Game of Thrones? Anyone reading/read the books?
Haven’t watched more than a few minutes of the first series - but have read all the books published to date.

Perchance because I’m reading the novels, I haven’t found it to be “porn” - though there is a fair amount of sex and a ridiculous amount of violence. Definitely for the over 21 age bracket.

That said, I’ve enjoyed the books and look forward to more. It’s rare to find any series of books that can surprise me - and this one has, repeatedly. Not by the deaths - well, after you-know-who (spoiler avoidance editing) gets beheaded, I knew all were in mortal peril. But surprised by the character development - how various characters are/did react to various changes in their “world”. Some great thought-inspiring looks into human personalities and their behaviors and reactions.

I confess to being a reading addict who can (and will) read almost anything printed on paper. There are several books I’ve read that I regret having spent any time on - including what I now would definitely classify as porn, as well as books that were predictable, ridiculous, and/or pointless. But no regrets on this series. Looking forward to his next novel.

And if anyone reading this can point me towards some good fiction that has Catholic characters and/or settings, I’d love to know about it, so message me 🙂

Thus far, I’ve only discovered the work of Katherine Valentine - <3 it! And a mystery by J.D. Robb, Salvation in Death, that I can’t force myself to finish (a rare thing) because of how badly he misuses the Catholic terminology such as calling the cabinet where unconsecrated hosts are kept “the tabernacle” :::shudder:::

Many will dislike the intense violence and sexuality of the Sword of Fire & Ice series (Game of Thrones) 🤷 That I can handle but errors in geography or terminology are like nails on a chalkboard to me.

My favorite line from Game of Thrones so far - “You know NOTHING, Jon Snow” 😃
 
I’m sooo excited for the new season! 😃

Although it won’t premiere here in the Philippines until Palm Sunday…

I know many of you complain about the sex scenes in the series, but if you just ignore that and just merely focus on the story and the world it’s set in, it’s a great series. Don’t delve on the sex too much. It’s NOT what the series is about. But I respect and understand those who are conservative when it comes to viewing these kinds of things.

The best thing about the series is how it mimics history well. George R. R. Martin said he took inspiration from the War of the Roses for the feud between the Lannisters and the Starks. It also has less emphasis on magic and more on politics, power and intrigue.

Recently my university, Ateneo de Manila University, has had a lecture series on Game of Thrones on a theological and historical perspective. And this is from a Catholic university!
Also after reading some of the posts here about the TV series thank goodness the version broadcasting here is censored.

By the way, the Starks will get their revenge. The North Remembers.
 
I’m sooo excited for the new season! 😃

Although it won’t premiere here in the Philippines until Palm Sunday…

I know many of you complain about the sex scenes in the series, but if you just ignore that and just merely focus on the story and the world it’s set in, it’s a great series. Don’t delve on the sex too much. It’s NOT what the series is about. But I respect and understand those who are conservative when it comes to viewing these kinds of things.

The best thing about the series is how it mimics history well. George R. R. Martin said he took inspiration from the War of the Roses for the feud between the Lannisters and the Starks. It also has less emphasis on magic and more on politics, power and intrigue.

Recently my university, Ateneo de Manila University, has had a lecture series on Game of Thrones on a theological and historical perspective. And this is from a Catholic university!
Also after reading some of the posts here about the TV series thank goodness the version broadcasting here is censored.

By the way, the Starks will get their revenge. The North Remembers.
Remember about custody of the eyes, avoiding occasions of sin.

Also, about having something at a Catholic University, sadly, that is no longer a guarantee of orthodoxy or good morals. Some Catholic Universities have lots of problems regarding contents of classes, lectures, events, teachers, etc.
 
I found the lewd bits interrupt the flow of the show and I found myself watching in spite of these interruptions, and just browsing the web during them - at one point I looked across and noticed Mrs Ephesians was doing the same.

Gradually it tailed off, until we found ourselves not bothering to watch it and I picked up some boxed sets of other, better things.
 
Remember about custody of the eyes, avoiding occasions of sin.
There’s a difference between looking at something and responding to it. Looking at it is temptation - it’s when you respond to it that the sin comes in. Whenever I see those sex scenes or violent acts in the series I try my best not to respond to it that would eventually lead me to sin. And if things are about to go to that point I would always pray hard enough. I’m careful about my actions and I hold on to my Catholic values. I’m just open-minded when I watch TV shows like Game of Thrones. I think it’s more of a case of being conservative about the show and being liberal about it.

And again the focus of the show is NOT sex. It’s about the power struggles of dynasties, how power can corrupt morals and individuals, and how even characters who are good moral bastions can fall from grace - and even lead them to sin. There’s more to the show than just gore and boobies. Come to think of it the sex is a useless trope… hmmm…
Also, about having something at a Catholic University, sadly, that is no longer a guarantee of orthodoxy or good morals. Some Catholic Universities have lots of problems regarding contents of classes, lectures, events, teachers, etc.
Ateneo is a Jesuit school. Jesuits are, from my experience, more liberal than most orders. My priest who works there has read the Song of Ice and Fire series but has not watched the show. And from what I’ve heard the sex and violence is more graphic in the books than in the series.
 
There’s a difference between looking at something and responding to it. **Looking at it is temptation - it’s when you respond to it that the sin comes in. **Whenever I see those sex scenes or violent acts in the series I try my best not to respond to it that would eventually lead me to sin. And if things are about to go to that point I would always pray hard enough. I’m careful about my actions and I hold on to my Catholic values. I’m just open-minded when I watch TV shows like Game of Thrones. I think it’s more of a case of being conservative about the show and being liberal about it.

And again the focus of the show is NOT sex. It’s about the power struggles of dynasties, how power can corrupt morals and individuals, and how even characters who are good moral bastions can fall from grace - and even lead them to sin. There’s more to the show than just gore and boobies. Come to think of it the sex is a useless trope… hmmm…

Ateneo is a Jesuit school. Jesuits are, from my experience, more liberal than most orders. My priest who works there has read the Song of Ice and Fire series but has not watched the show. And from what I’ve heard the sex and violence is more graphic in the books than in the series.
Occasions of sin have to be avoided. Again, custody of the eyes. We are supposed to flee from temptations, not to watch them.

Better avoid these scenes. Looking at them isn’t right.

Liberalism… liberalism doesn’t have a place in Catholicism. This is not about “options”, this is about right and wrong.

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.
2520 Baptism confers on its recipient the grace of purification from all sins. But the baptized must continue to struggle against concupiscence of the flesh and disordered desires. With God’s grace he will prevail
  • by purity of vision, external and internal; by discipline of feelings and imagination; by refusing all complicity in impure thoughts that incline us to turn aside from the path of God’s commandments: “Appearance arouses yearning in fools”;314
  • by prayer:
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I thought that continence arose from one's own powers, which I did not recognize in myself. I was foolish enough not to know . . . that no one can be continent unless you grant it. For you would surely have granted it if my inner groaning had reached your ears and I with firm faith had cast my cares on you.315
2521 Purity requires modesty, an integral part of temperance. Modesty protects the intimate center of the person. It means refusing to unveil what should remain hidden. It is ordered to chastity to whose sensitivity it bears witness. It guides how one looks at others and behaves toward them in conformity with the dignity of persons and their solidarity.
2523 There is a modesty of the feelings as well as of the body. It protests, for example, against the voyeuristic explorations of the human body in certain advertisements, or against the solicitations of certain media that go too far in the exhibition of intimate things. Modesty inspires a way of life which makes it possible to resist the allurements of fashion and the pressures of prevailing ideologies.
2528 “Everyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart” (Mt 5:28).
2529 The ninth commandment warns against lust or carnal concupiscence.
2530 The struggle against carnal lust involves purifying the heart and practicing temperance.
2531 Purity of heart will enable us to see God: it enables us even now to see things according to God.
2532 Purification of the heart demands prayer, the practice of chastity, purity of intention and of vision.
2533 Purity of heart requires the modesty which is patience, decency, and discretion. Modesty protects the intimate center of the person.
 
About liberalism:

LIBERALISM IS A SIN
Fr. Don Felix Sarda Y Salvany

The original Spanish text, El Liberalismo es Pecado, has the approbation of the Holy See (through the Sacred Congregation of the Index) and of various bishops.

ewtn.com/library/theology/libsin.HTM
 
I plan on reading the first book and seeing if I like it. I don’t plan on watching the show though; I’ve heard that it’s a lot more bloody and inappropriate than the books.
 
This is a popular media forum, not a moral theology forum.

I was attempting to establish a friendly dialogue of who might have seen the show or read the books. Obviously some of you haven’t read the books, nor seen the show.

If you feel too uncomfortable/judgmental about such a topic as this or a show, I might suggest taking your views to some other thread.
 
This is a popular media forum, not a moral theology forum.

I was attempting to establish a friendly dialogue of who might have seen the show or read the books. Obviously some of you haven’t read the books, nor seen the show.

If you feel too uncomfortable/judgmental about such a topic as this or a show, I might suggest taking your views to some other thread.
:clapping:

Anyway, what about you? Have you read the books?

And to build up some ground for conversation on the actual topic at hand:

Which side are you rooting for?
What house and or character is your favourite and why?
What house and or character do you hate and why?
What plotline are you most invested in?
What do you think about the latest episode?
 
:clapping:

Anyway, what about you? Have you read the books?

And to build up some ground for conversation on the actual topic at hand:

Which side are you rooting for?
What house and or character is your favourite and why?
What house and or character do you hate and why?
What plotline are you most invested in?
What do you think about the latest episode?
Jon Snow is my favorite thus far, certainly surprised he has lasted as long as he has, and I’m very worried he’s going to be gone in the next book.

I’m actually going to have to re-read them to get all my houses straight - I was doing reasonably well till I read the last two books concurrently to try to stay in the timeline - and got a bit lost.

I thought we were building for a good plot line involving The Hound - but alas, not 😦

I really NEED to know how everyone is going to survive - Winter is coming! And yet no one seems able to prepare due to the ongoing war(s).

Not sure where the TV series is at compared to the books so I’m trying not to post anything that’s a real spoiler.
 
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