GAMING: Skyrim

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I have it for PC, and I don’t really have any problems with it. The UI with the mouse (In the menu screens) is really clunky, but it’s forgivable. What I really love is that with the PC you can map hotkeys on 1-8. This is kind of a big deal for me. haha. I hear that the on the Xbox version the load times are horrible! If your computer can run the game at decent settings I recommend getting it for PC.

As for the gay marriage thing, I think it’s just a matter of simply not doing it. I would rather it not be in there, since society (as well as the developers I assume) is deeming it acceptable. While murder and theft is still unacceptable. (Even in the game)
 
I have it on the PC, and I’m loving it. I was pleasantly surprised that my very (very, very) modest system is able to play it without too much trouble (albeit on the lowest settings). Just about the second worst thing that could have come out around exam time (the worst being the new Wheel of Time book).
 
As for the gay marriage thing, I think it’s just a matter of simply not doing it. I would rather it not be in there, since society (as well as the developers I assume) is deeming it acceptable. While murder and theft is still unacceptable. (Even in the game)
I really wish it weren’t there too as I have been looking forward to seeing Skyrim since the Bloodmoon expansion to Morrowind. As you said, certainly we ought not do it, I’m just saying is I have a hard time justifying buying the game when the developers are basically helping spread the message that this stuff is quite alright. Especially with the current particular issue of homosexual act acceptance being shoved down everyone’s throats, its a particularly disturbing thing.

I don’t know maybe such concerns are too scrupulous, but I am inclined to think not at the moment.
 
I really wish it weren’t there too as I have been looking forward to seeing Skyrim since the Bloodmoon expansion to Morrowind. As you said, certainly we ought not do it, I’m just saying is I have a hard time justifying buying the game when the developers are basically helping spread the message that this stuff is quite alright. Especially with the current particular issue of homosexual act acceptance being shoved down everyone’s throats, its a particularly disturbing thing.

I don’t know maybe such concerns are too scrupulous, but I am inclined to think not at the moment.
Actually, I don’t think they’re actively on it, more like something between pragmaticism and misguided inclusiveness.

I’d like to ask about this whole stuff with killing dragons, learning dragon words etc. etc. I remember reading somewhere that the Dragonborn basically destroys dragon souls in the process, and he himself probably has one like that, except in a human body. How exactly is this aspect handled? I’m asking because my patience for occult-like stuff has worn out (and I certainly did not do any soul trapping in Morrowind). Bigger problem from my point of view than gay marriage.
 
Actually, I don’t think they’re actively on it, more like something between pragmaticism and misguided inclusiveness.

I’d like to ask about this whole stuff with killing dragons, learning dragon words etc. etc. I remember reading somewhere that the Dragonborn basically destroys dragon souls in the process, and he himself probably has one like that, except in a human body. How exactly is this aspect handled? I’m asking because my patience for occult-like stuff has worn out (and I certainly did not do any soul trapping in Morrowind). Bigger problem from my point of view than gay marriage.
Basically the dragonborn is a mortal gifted by the gods with a soul of a dragon, allowing him to kill dragons permanently by absorbing their souls and gaining their knowledge. Anyone else kills a dragon and it basically just goes back into hibernation.

The Shouts are dragon magic, which they use as a form of magic, however anyone can learn the shouts with patience and training, Dragonborn do it naturally however.

Also, anyone else encounter this. A dragon attacks, no problem. Giant attacks, run like the wind.
 
Also, anyone else encounter this. A dragon attacks, no problem. Giant attacks, run like the wind.
I encountered a dragon fighting a giant, and thought I’d help out both sides with a few arrows, then collect the loot. The dragon was more interested in the giant than my arrows, but the giant decided I was more interesting than the dragon. Suddenly I had a flaming giant running after me, as the dragon continued to attack him. I couldn’t stay away from him long enough for the dragon to finish the job, and then I was flying through the air… and reloading my save.

You can level your archery like crazy though if you find giants or mammoths somewhere where you can stand on a cliff above them and imperviously rain arrows.
 
Also, anyone else encounter this. A dragon attacks, no problem. Giant attacks, run like the wind.
I’ve killed (at least) seven dragons on my own. I STILL haven’t killed a giant!

I’d also like to take the opportunity to say that I both love and hate Markarth, that is all. I can’t go into details because they are spoilery. Never have I felt so divided about a video game city before.
 
Man, reading all these comments is making me want game soooo bad!
I didn’t know there were giants in the game. Thats pretty cool!
 
Man, reading all these comments is making me want game soooo bad!
I didn’t know there were giants in the game. Thats pretty cool!
Yes, there are giants who will flatten you with their clubs if you even go NEAR their mammoths (to say nothing of the mammoths themselves).
 
Not to doubt the purity of your all’s conscience, but how can you buy/support this game when it is one of the first few games to do gay marriage in it? Surely most of you are good Catholics, so I must be missing something or being overly scrupulous. I genuinely want to know because my conscience does not really seem to permit me to buy this game at the moment (thus I ought obey it), and I would otherwise get it in a heartbeat.
 
Not to doubt the purity of your all’s conscience, but how can you buy/support this game when it is one of the first few games to do gay marriage in it? Surely most of you are good Catholics, so I must be missing something or being overly scrupulous. I genuinely want to know because my conscience does not really seem to permit me to buy this game at the moment (thus I ought obey it), and I would otherwise get it in a heartbeat.
It’s not forced on you however, and it isnt even in your face. From what I’ve seen there is no NPC gay marriages or couples at all. Bioware has released more ‘in your face’ gay romances.
 
I love the gameplay, characters and combat. The amount of lore and detail they put into this game. The scenery is just AMAZING. Has anyone else just stood on a mountain and looked for a while at the sky and the land? I’m an Imperial female; one-handed, light armor and restoration skill.
I ignore the gay marriage feature. It’s frustrating, but what can we do? Dranu was right, it is being shoved down our throats. What was even more disturbing was the Daedric Princes and their quests. I have two right now that I absolutely refuse to finish. I never soul-trap either. It’s really niggling at my conscience.
 
I love the gameplay, characters and combat. The amount of lore and detail they put into this game. The scenery is just AMAZING. Has anyone else just stood on a mountain and looked for a while at the sky and the land?
I haven’t played Skyrim, but I think the games in The Elder Scrolls series are known for their amazing vistas, as well as the depth and flexibility of the gameplay.
I ignore the gay marriage feature. It’s frustrating, but what can we do? Dranu was right, it is being shoved down our throats. What was even more disturbing was the Daedric Princes and their quests. I have two right now that I absolutely refuse to finish. I never soul-trap either. It’s really niggling at my conscience.
I think applying personal moral standards to a fictional game is kind of a dicey proposition. Does the inclusion of a Thieves Guild and organization of assassins, both of which can be joined by the player, mean that the game is promoting murder or thievery? I don’t think so. I guess I feel that if someone is bothered by such optional story lines, just don’t don’t do them. I have ignored the assassin quests in the past, and will probably do the same in Skyrim.
 
I love Skyrim! One of the most immersive games in awhile. I played a full on heavy melee Orc my first play through and accomplished the Main quest line and Companions but avoided the Mages, Thieves, and Dark Brotherhood untill I play a character more conducive to those archetypes.

I have noticed that Skyrim seems, on awhole, more dark than Oblivion. I like to play the good guys more often than the bad, so hopefully we will see a more positive expansion like Knights of the Nine was for Oblivion.
 
I love the gameplay, characters and combat. The amount of lore and detail they put into this game. The scenery is just AMAZING. Has anyone else just stood on a mountain and looked for a while at the sky and the land? I’m an Imperial female; one-handed, light armor and restoration skill.
I ignore the gay marriage feature. It’s frustrating, but what can we do? Dranu was right, it is being shoved down our throats. What was even more disturbing was the Daedric Princes and their quests. I have two right now that I absolutely refuse to finish. I never soul-trap either. It’s really niggling at my conscience.
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I think applying personal moral standards to a fictional game is kind of a dicey proposition. Does the inclusion of a Thieves Guild and organization of assassins, both of which can be joined by the player, mean that the game is promoting murder or thievery? I don’t think so. I guess I feel that if someone is bothered by such optional story lines, just don’t don’t do them. I have ignored the assassin quests in the past, and will probably do the same in Skyrim.
Well, you aren’t playing yourself in a game. Unless you are, but even then you’re simply playing a character based on some aspect of your personality or an alegory of yourself. It’s not you in the same sense as you’re you when sparring or playing riddles or participating in paintball in real life.

This said, myself I don’t play evil characters, don’t use necromancy, don’t commit typical straightforward theft etc. because I that’s not my kind of fun and generally, that would be a sick kind of fun anyway (okay, apart from Aladdin/Robin Hood kind of thievery if you take it with a pinch of salt ;)). On the other hand, I allow my characters to loot bodies of fallen enemies, raid goblin caves or even human bandit camps with the primary intent of levelling up (improving combat skills) and getting items (loot), confiscate merchants’ wares from enemy trade ships while at war etc. or follow up with war on diplomatic insults (from other types of games) due to it being game, with a specific outlook and mentality inscribed into it, and taken with a pinch of salt, in a make-believe fashion. In real life, my own life, I’d spend more time on such decisions and with different outcomes.
I have two right now that I absolutely refuse to finish. I never soul-trap either. It’s really niggling at my conscience.
There was an official addon to a certain RPG game that I refused to finish because the main quest involved buying back somebody’s soul and it had to paid for someone else’s soul. I decided that trading souls was beyond my limit and refused to finish the game. I read up on the finish instead.

Oblivion is getting on my nerve too with the plentiful Oblivion gates swarming with devil-like creatures that occasionally scream recognisable things and the naming of the parts of gates is rather offensive, plus there’s that ugly ritual Martin Septim has to perform to gain access to the place of hiding of the main villain’s biggest crony. But then you’re fighting against those creatures and not just exploring, they’re clearly evil and enemies by the game’s terms, and Martin is far from eager to dabble with the whole thing, and he does it to open that portal and kill that evil lackey, so it’s not that bad for a game. On the other hand, Skyrim, while it doesn’t have the whole daedric thing to it, worries me on the point of those dragon souls being destroyed and/or the player’s character having one himself, supposedly, in a human body. But then it’s probably a metaphor with the dragon soul in the player’s character, and I guess the destruction of dragons’ souls can be explained as some kind of punishment from the gods if that’s what they want the player’s character to do. In turn, the way magical items are created, with souls being trapped and channelled via soul gems to put them in magical artifacts (not all artifacts originate this way but almost all player-created ones do), now that’s something I hate and don’t do.
 
I have noticed that Skyrim seems, on awhole, more dark than Oblivion. I like to play the good guys more often than the bad, so hopefully we will see a more positive expansion like Knights of the Nine was for Oblivion.
I think Skyrim has more of a “dark ages” feel than the Standard Medieval Fantasy feel of Oblivion (which is appropriate considering that the Nords are Tamriel’s equivalent of the Germanic tribes).

I’m trying to play a “good” character this time around, but for some reason she keeps running into daedric princes and getting roped into doing their dirty work. My next playthrough I’m going all out evil and joining the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild. I loved the Dark Brotherhood quests in Oblivion!
 
One more problem I have with the game is the lycanthropy in one of the game’s equivalent of a fighters’ guild, where werewolf hunters are evil (they attack non-werewolves on sight too) but the lycanthropy itself is glorified, even though it does involved having to feed more or less like vampires. At least this is what I gather from reading up on the subject.
 
Not to doubt the purity of your all’s conscience, but how can you buy/support this game when it is one of the first few games to do gay marriage in it?
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Um… I have to wonder about the moral priorities of saying that assassinating people for money is acceptable in a game, but gay marriage is beyond the pale. Seriously.
 
Well Dale, didn’t you know, some people think that video game players should be bound by the Geneva convention. huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/12/05/video-games-human-rights-war-crimes-red-cross_n_1129256.html?ref=uk
Hmm… I suppose the concern of some members of The International Committee of the Red Cross is that video game portrayal of military atrocities might lower the inhibition of young adults who might either be in the military or join the military later. And that the lowered inhibition could lead to real world violence.

Well, maybe. But I think those members of the ICRC will have to prove their case first. The ICRC is sensible in not committing itself at this point.

No doubt there are some persons who can not distinguish between fantasy and reality. But I wonder just how much violence in the world results directly from video games.
 
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