Garbage in, garbage out: More bad warming data

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Another temperature-monitor station riddled with problems, says meteorologist
Posted: February 20, 2008
9:49 am Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

WASHINGTON – A meteorologist performing a comprehensive study of temperature-monitoring stations that provide data about global warming says the official facility at Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport is riddled with problems that render it useless to scientists.

But the data collected there is being used nonetheless.

Anthony Watts concludes in his investigation that the station at O’Hare is affected by an urban heat effect that would make temperature readings inaccurate as an indicator of what is actually occurring regionally.

wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56875
 
I am not that worried about global warming anymore; I fear a reversion of Olduvai Gorge. I fear the technological innovation will stop without sufficient energy.

To me, worrying about global warming is a luxury… the real crisis is resource depletion.
 
They are using OHARE data in global temperature calculations!!?? Any second year civil engineering or hydrology undergraduate knows about the much studied urban heat island effect. 60 years ago OHare airport was out near the fringe of the Chicago urban area. Now there are non-stop jet black asphalt parking lots stretching 30 more miles upwind.

Its ridiculous to include temp data from such a source in studies of average global temperature. Pure foolishness or malicious intent.
 
That’s interesting but I came across this in something called chicbeat which had an interview with Watts.

chicobeat.com/?q=watts_is_wrong

Watts is Wrong
Published: March 15th, 2007

“For the record, we don’t agree with Anthony Watts’ views on global warming. We think he is culturally biased against the environmental movement and because of that, has blinded himself to the reality that global warming is a product of an unsustainable and self-destructive way of life. Climate change is a threat to human existence and is something we need to take action against now.”

They do go on to say he is keen on energy conservation and solar power.

I can’t actually find what his qualifications are other than that he is “a former television meteorologist”
 
That’s the weakest rebuttal attempt I’ve ever heard. I don’t know this Watts fellow or his reputation, but the subject of ‘urban heat island effect’ has been a known phenomenon at LEAST since I was an undergraduate in 1992. I’m pretty sure that predates ALL of the current global warming theories. In fact, my 1991 “Global Physical Environments” professor still believed we were on the brink of the next ice age…

All they can muster is to impugn his motives and repeat the party line.
 
If they’re using temps. from O’Hare, or anywhere in the Chicago area, the data is worthless. It will be hopelessly tilted to the warm side. Which is what they want, seeing as how their lucrative grants depend on certain results. Roanoker
 
Well I think other factors are they have a lot of places where they take temperatures near urban centers. Those urban centers expand, so the urban affect over the years is going to change the make up of the temperature that is taken. Also there are a lot of the sites worldwide, and it’s hard to get all the places and to make sure they are properly calibrated. Also sites move, the official site we had taking the temp for our city was moved a few miles away. Just where one is at in a local area the temp can fluctuate five degrees or so. So I wonder how they can come up with a cetainty of single degrees of F or C.
 
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, global warming is JUNK SCIENCE!
 
Corrections for instrumentation and placement are commonplace. Dismissing all the temperature data that seems to point to a warming climate based on this article is like the butterfly declaring the giant redwood to be dead. “I’ve been around this tree my whole life and it hasn’t moved. It must be dead.”

Looking at the photo, I hope they are correcting for the MIG exhaust…
 
The issue of bad temp data is a serious issue.

Here is a Web site to visit with respect to the actual situation regarding instrument locations with bad readings.

surfacestations.org/

Very important.

This is a scientific scandal of the utmost importance.
 
Yerusalyim said:
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, global warming is JUNK SCIENCE!
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I agree totally, climate change is and always been a natural change on the earth, we can do little about it, and yes the greenie left love to make humans fell guilty for existing.
I’m still waiting for the “new Ice age” promised us in the 1970’s.
Meteorologists cannot even get the weather prediction right for the following day, how can anyone guess the weather in 50 years!!! 😛
 
Yesterday, in the mail, I received my copy of “Unstoppable Global Warming — every 1500 years” by Dr. S. Fred Singer and Dennis T. Avery.

FABULOUS!!

CAN’T PUT IT DOWN!!!

New scientific breakthroughs all the time … have identified a natural 1500 year cycle of natural and normal global warming … all related to solar emissions and the apparent interaction between the solar wind and cosmic rays.

The current edition which was just released has new information and has had the chapters reorganized for better information flow.

Here is the link:

amazon.com/Unstoppable-Global-Warming-Updated-Expanded/dp/0742551245

Make sure you get the expanded and updated 2008 edition. The cover has mountains and a glacier. [The previous edition has a city skyline]

Or visit www.sepp.org and get a copy directly from Dr. Singer.

ANYONE who is remotely interested in the topic of global warming MUST read this book.

Ask your librarian to get a copy for you.
 
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