Gay Characters

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I’m getting so sick and tired of all the gay characters on virtually every sitcom on tv these days. Just walked in the great room and some show was on-- don’t know the name of it but some guy “outed” his friend, to the woman the gay guy was dating; she unknowingly was dating a gay guy.

Uh, besides the moral problem, dating a gay guy can transmit diseases at a much more likely rate than heterosexual relationships, and this is on tv like it’s normal.

Ok, vent over.
 
Gay people watch TV too. They deserve to have their stories told.
 
Rhubarb said:
Gay people watch TV too. They deserve to have their stories told.
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Agree. It begins to normalize not only their stories and their lives, from struggles to relationships to creating families, but it also gives those of us who are not LGBT a picture into that world. Don’t want to see it? Choose something else.
 
Faith1960 said:
Do ALL walks of life deserve to have their stories told since ALL walks of life watch tv?
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Maybe? Probably. I mean, subject to artistic licence. I’m sure a story about a mild-mannered ornithologist deserves to have their story told, but if it’s not interesting or compelling, it won’t be. TV is a business, after all.
 
Rhubarb said:
Maybe? Probably. I mean, subject to artistic licence. I’m sure a story about a mild-mannered ornithologist deserves to have their story told, but if it’s not interesting or compelling, it won’t be. TV is a business, after all.
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We’ve certainly seen the rise of ethnic communities on tv and the impact it has made within the larger society. It would be good to see more Muslim families, families from India, etc. That’s the new norm in this country now. We learn a lot from watching tv.
 
The performing arts are a mirror of human life; we should expect to see in them the same social factors we see around our heads while living life.

That said, there has always been a lot more sympathy for alternative-sexualities in the arts than in the general society. There’s nothing to be done about it; we should IMNAAHO count it toward our penance.

ICXC NIKA.
 
I suppose that “normalization” is the whole point. Producers and writers of these sitcoms want to make gay okay. Whether that is a good thing for society is another matter. Soon they will want to make transgender okay as well. It’s okay for a boy to be a girl or for a girl to be a boy.

We’ve already made divorce okay, made contraception okay, made casual extramarital sex okay. With the Soprano’s, we’ve even made the mafia okay. Isn’t everything okay?
 
“In the 2014-15 season, GLAAD’s study found that 3.9 percent of 813 characters regularly seen on prime-time network scripted series will be lesbian, gay or bisexual, a total of 32 characters.”

It’s from the Huffington Post,so, take it with a grain of sand. But I don’t know why they would fabricate a GLAAD study. Either way, 3.9 percent of all regular characters, which seems about right with the demographics for LBGT people in the US. I don’t think 32 out of 813 characters doesn’t sound like “all the gay characters.”
 
It’s not the gay characters we should be against.

It’s the lifestyles depicted that we don’t agree with.
 
I think there is a difference between normalizing divorce, etc and normalizing gay, in that normalizing divorce etc might induce real life people to engage in those behaviors. But no matter how much gay normalization there is on tv, it won’t make people turn gay. You’re either gay or you’re not.
 
on_the_hill said:
I think there is a difference between normalizing divorce, etc and normalizing gay, in that normalizing divorce etc might induce real life people to engage in those behaviors. But no matter how much gay normalization there is on tv, it won’t make people turn gay. You’re either gay or you’re not.
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There are bisexuals who could be influenced toward a gay lifestyle.
 
JimG said:
I suppose that “normalization” is the whole point. Producers and writers of these sitcoms want to make gay okay. Whether that is a good thing for society is another matter. Soon they will want to make transgender okay as well. It’s okay for a boy to be a girl or for a girl to be a boy.

We’ve already made divorce okay, made contraception okay, made casual extramarital sex okay. With the Soprano’s, we’ve even made the mafia okay. Isn’t everything okay?
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That’s the goal: to make everything OK. It’s not about making money. As someone who knows the Hollywood trade, there is a clear agenda, and fake fears. Fake because those in charge want us to believe their message but they can’t use plain English. They have to cover it up in fake words or word combinations.
  1. A cancellation of some TV shows with LGBT characters threatened “Diversity,” meaning LGBT is OK.
  2. A recent push to show tough as nails female heroes. Known as “gender diversity.”
  3. A recent push to show transgender children which is in its early stages right now but when it came to a court ordered right to allow a boy to use a girls’ restroom? Sorry. Not a good message. “Gender identity” in kids.
People are people and God loves them, but people who have agendas need to have those agendas exposed.

“We’ve” done nothing. I don’t count myself with those responsible. What we can do is present the truth every time false thinking, ideas and “lifestyles” are presented as normative that are not consistent with human biology or psychology.

Ed
 
GEddie said:
The performing arts are a mirror of human life; we should expect to see in them the same social factors we see around our heads while living life.

That said, there has always been a lot more sympathy for alternative-sexualities in the arts than in the general society. There’s nothing to be done about it; we should IMNAAHO count it toward our penance.

ICXC NIKA.
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On the contrary, the Church counsels us about what can be done. It offers no ‘alternative sexualities.’ The arts are not god nor are they immune from criticism simply because they have that label. The arts are created not by a privileged class but by human beings that can influence other human beings.

The performing arts are show business, and when actors model bad behavior, it should not be accepted without criticism.

Ed
 
edwest2 said:
On the contrary, the Church counsels us about what can be done. It offers no ‘alternative sexualities.’ The arts are not god nor are they immune from criticism simply because they have that label. The arts are created not by a privileged class but by human beings that can influence other human beings.

The performing arts are show business, and when actors model bad behavior, it should not be accepted without criticism.

Ed
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Agreed. I recall a recent interview that Nicole Kidman did where she said her Catholic faith is a huge part of her life and is a deciding factor in what roles she accepts. Watching some of her movies it might raise eyebrows and cause people to wonder “is that really what Catholicism accepts/condones?”.

It’s not fair on the person in the spotlight but their comments are often misconstrued and add to the confusion regarding the Church especially in those who could not be bothered researching what the Church really teaches.
 
SAVINGRACE said:
Agreed. I recall a recent interview that Nicole Kidman did where she said her Catholic faith is a huge part of her life and is a deciding factor in what roles she accepts. Watching some of her movies it might raise eyebrows and cause people to wonder “is that really what Catholicism accepts/condones?”.

It’s not fair on the person in the spotlight but their comments are often misconstrued and add to the confusion regarding the Church especially in those who could not be bothered researching what the Church really teaches.
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Did she get an annulment from Tom Cruise and if so, how did she get it so quickly?
 
ComplineSanFran said:
Agree. It begins to normalize not only their stories and their lives, from struggles to relationships to creating families, but it also gives those of us who are not LGBT a picture into that world. Don’t want to see it? Choose something else.
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Except that TV doesn’t really normalize anything except entertain people about sexuality minus the unforeseen consequences of what could happen.

Also, I noticed the use of GLBTQ in the prior post. Not all GLBTQ persons are active in homosexuality. Think a show about a GLBTQ person living the Catholic Faith would fly?
 
DaddyGirl said:
As someone who knows the Hollywood trade, it would be impossible for me to disagree with you more.

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They’ve been doing that since at least the time of Star Trek.

Ted Danson put it best “The marvelous thing was, it [all] went right over the network’s heads. But the 14 and 16 yo in the audience knew what they were talking about”.
 
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