Gay hostility in class

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Your entire philosophical ‘argument’ is based on the assumption that God doesn’t exist, yet we [this is CAF after all] know beyond question that this assumption is false.
 
I think that you could tell them that the solution to homosexuality would be to make the punishment so horrific that when fate is not without a sense of humor and they had to do it, that they would be ashamed, or to love each other and have Peace on Earth. Dichotomy intended.
 
Trevize said:
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Your entire philosophical ‘argument’ is based on the assumption that God doesn’t exist, yet we [this is CAF after all] know beyond question that this assumption is false.
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I don’t know who was the intended recipient of your post (it is always a good idea to use the “quote” function), but the argument is independent from the assumption of God’s existence. And if you KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that God exists, and your assumption about God is correct, then you are in the enviable position to be able to PROVE it. Of course no honest apologist dares to claim to be able to KNOW, they only say that they BELIEVE.
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so then you assert beyond question: that which cannot be proved by science is false?
It’s your responsibility to prove that. Or is that “just” your belief? (I respect your beliefs)
See the problem you have?
 
to make the assertion that the unprovable cannot exist is untenable, and locks one into a self imposed prison, essentially making one’s self into a god.
ironically
 
I can say that I KNOW because of the Eucharistic miracles that I have witnessed…I BELIEVED before that.
The ‘argument’ is based on the assumption of ‘the blind forces of evolution’ in that revelation tells us that humanity - male and female - is created in the image of God, and therefore your allegedly superior forms of life aren’t superior after all…
 
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so then you assert beyond question: that which cannot be proved by science is false?
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Which part of science? And you seem to forget the wonderful concept of a “hypothesis”, which refers to an open question - where the jury is still “out”. The problem is not the openness of the question, it is the assertion that one has the definitive, final answer.

I gave you a detailed mini-essay about your assertion that “existence is the highest good”. Did you even read it?
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I did. It didn’t hold intellectual water. I’ve read the same kind of thing many times. Moral relativism that doesn’t recognize objective good (while at the same time making a truth assertion…ummmmm, confusion?)
We are speaking two different languages.

You hold that existence (getting back to the topic) is not any kind of good, let alone the highest good. You hold that existence is neutral.
We are not even speaking the same language. How can I convince you that it is good to be alive, to love, to have joy, to have peace? All flowing from existence? This is a fundamental disconnect.
Getting back to the topic, let me ask you this: can you at least adhere to generally accpeted science?
How are human beings made? What does science say? Is there any other way? Is the union of a man and woman unique in that way? I hope you are not anti-science.

Also, you still should defend your position that the unprovable does not exist
 
You’ve never read Genesis??? You’ve missed out on a great work of literature…sounds like an abysmal failure on your part…
 
Trevize:
you have run up against the brick wall that materialism is: the assertion that the unprovable does not exist.

Prove it. We will wait.
 
Trevize. The highest good on Earth is human existence. We are made in the likeness and image of God. We are the purpose of creation. Our duty is to go forth and multiply so that others can live and prepare for their ultimate home in the presence of God for eternity. Maybe you should read the Bible and the Catechism of the Catholic Curch.If you say you have then go and read them again. Maybe it will sink in and you will grasp the truth.
 
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Trevize said:
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goout:
How can I convince you that it is good to be alive, to love, to have joy, to have peace?
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How can I convince you that pain, hunger, misery, sickness are NOT good? All follow from existence.
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so now you make the case for suicide…
Like I said, we are speaking two entirely different languages.
 
People say they know things constantly. In reality, if we get philosophical and technical about it, we can’t “prove” anything. Gravity is a highly supported law, but it is not proven, technically speaking. I am as confident in Gods exsistence as I am in gravity’s. And in many ways even more so. So making the claim that you can’t say you know anything without proof, would basically mean we couldn’t know anything, ever. At some point I think in common language we can make the leap that we know things.
 
Oh PS I think they found some new gravitational behavior recently if anyone is interested. Personally I thought that was kind of cool, but hey I’m a science nerd 🤓
 
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Thorolfr:
So why do you need male intimacy and affection from other men more than most straight men
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because no guy would hug me if they knew what I struggled with. No one is comfortable with that.
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Come here brother in Christ, let me give you that BIG HUG :hugs::hugs: btw: I’m from a latin culture where a hug between friends isn’t frowned upon.
 
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And now, any intimacy and affection and affirmation that I want to get, I ultimately can’t have because no guy would hug me if they knew what I struggled with. No one is comfortable with that.
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That, my friend, is the falsest thing I’ve read all day.

You’re really quite smart, but you don’t know much about hugs apparently. 😛
 
There are examples of xXY chromosomes (for a total of 47 instead of 46 in genetically normal humans. There’s also an XYY variant. Thus, there can be ambiguity about one’s sexuality and corresponding orientation.
 
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