Gay, Lesbian Straight Educational Network Day of Silence - April 11th

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Here is the opposing walkout asking parents to keep their child home.

doswalkout.net

Here is the Day of Silence link

dayofsilence.org

“Championing LGBT Issues in K-12 Education since 1990”

Former NFL player Wade Davis to speak at Sewickley Academy

Hundreds of thousands of students at more than 8,000 schools are expected to participate in the 19th annual GLSEN Day of Silence on Friday to raise awareness about the pervasiveness of anti-LGBT name-calling, bullying and harassment in schools.

prweb.com/releases/2014/04/prweb11747454.htm

Many protestant groups seem involved in the walkout. I wonder why catholics don’t seem to be involved?
 
Catholics have always been more in tune with social justice than Protestants! We were brought up that way and even taught about the history of our Church in the area od social justice.****
As a former high school teacher, (retired two years ago), I have to say that the Day of Silence is NOT a bad thing. It provides many opportunities for class discussion about bullying and shunning AND free speech for all, even those who disagree with your own personal point of view. Our kids are smarter than we give them credit for and participating or not participating in the Day of Silence is not going to scar them for life! Keeping a 14-18 year old student away from school because of fear or prejudice just doesn’t make sense. 🤷
 
I decided against going into teaching, but if I ever go back I’ll be sure to schedule the important test on this day, and a graded class discussion too.
 
kozlosap said:
Catholics have always been more in tune with social justice than Protestants! We were brought up that way and even taught about the history of our Church in the area od social justice.****
As a former high school teacher, (retired two years ago), I have to say that the Day of Silence is NOT a bad thing. It provides many opportunities for class discussion about bullying and shunning AND free speech for all, even those who disagree with your own personal point of view. Our kids are smarter than we give them credit for and participating or not participating in the Day of Silence is not going to scar them for life! Keeping a 14-18 year old student away from school because of fear or prejudice just doesn’t make sense. 🤷
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Our children refused to participate at the Jesuit school they attended, because of the failure to present or clarify Catholic teaching. The day turned into support for disordered sexuality. That is a danger to souls.

Victimization of any human being is a horrible thing. What is not often taught is that participation in disordered sexuality victimizes the self as well as the other.
 
Estevao said:
I decided against going into teaching, but if I ever go back I’ll be sure to schedule the important test on this day, and a graded class discussion too.
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This day is about drawing attention to bullying and its harmful effects, which include huge numbers of children committing suicide. You might disagree with gay rights and the day of silence, and you could pursue appropriate means of resisting them if you wanted to. But to purposefully schedule a graded discussion on that day would be to become a bully yourself, and even worse, it would be to use a position of power over children to bully them. For shame.
 
churchatheist said:
This day is about drawing attention to bullying and its harmful effects, which include huge numbers of children committing suicide. You might disagree with gay rights and the day of silence, and you could pursue appropriate means of resisting them if you wanted to. But to purposefully schedule a graded discussion on that day would be to become a bully yourself, and even worse, it would be to use a position of power over children to bully them. For shame.
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In chastising the other poster, I think this is inviting students to run the show, which is a backward methodology. Particularly because many supporters of homosexual lifestyle cry discrimination where there is no discrimination, such as with the Arizona baker case and many others. Things like that make these days of silence seem like agenda groups posing as anti-bullying groups.
 
In principle, I see nothing wrong with the DOS. However, it strikes me as something that could be easily hijacked to fit something more than a simple counter-bullying ideology.
 
So because catholics are more in touch with justice, they don’t take part in lesbian or gay issues?

I am having trouble making that connection.
 
MarcoPolo said:
In chastising the other poster, I think this is inviting students to run the show, which is a backward methodology. Particularly because many supporters of homosexual lifestyle cry discrimination where there is no discrimination, such as with the Arizona baker case and many others. Things like that make these days of silence seem like agenda groups posing as anti-bullying groups.
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“The homosexual lifestyle”? There is no such thing as a lifestyle held uniformly by every single homosexual. They are individuals, as are we all.

This reminds me of a joke telling what the “gay agenda” is.

8 am yawn go back to sleep
9am long shower
10 am coffee

You get the idea.
 
andrewstx said:
“The homosexual lifestyle”? There is no such thing as a lifestyle held uniformly by every single homosexual. They are individuals, as are we all.

This reminds me of a joke telling what the “gay agenda” is.

8 am yawn go back to sleep
9am long shower
10 am coffee

You get the idea.
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When they talk about about the homosexual lifestyle, I always though it was in relation to sex.:confused:

It does make one wonder what is meant by this term?
 
gam197 said:
Here is the opposing walkout asking parents to keep their child home.

doswalkout.net

Here is the Day of Silence link

dayofsilence.org

“Championing LGBT Issues in K-12 Education since 1990”

Former NFL player Wade Davis to speak at Sewickley Academy

Hundreds of thousands of students at more than 8,000 schools are expected to participate in the 19th annual GLSEN Day of Silence on Friday to raise awareness about the pervasiveness of anti-LGBT name-calling, bullying and harassment in schools.

prweb.com/releases/2014/04/prweb11747454.htm

Many protestant groups seem involved in the walkout. I wonder why catholics don’t seem to be involved?
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Catholic teaching on conscience is more nuanced than fundamentalist/evangelical notions. A walk-out can simply be construed as "See? they walked out because they authorize bullying, name-calling, and physical violence!" Someone could insist on a day permitting faithful students to relay the same message against brutality, but on the condition that they be allowed that day to express the belief in normative sexuality & marriage without in turn being harassed.
 
CarmelJerome said:
Catholic teaching on conscience is more nuanced than fundamentalist/evangelical notions. A walk-out can simply be construed as “See? they walked out because they authorize bullying, name-calling, and physical violence!” Someone could insist on a day permitting faithful students to relay the same message against brutality, but on the condition that they be allowed that day to express the belief in normative sexuality & marriage without in turn being harassed.
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Do you really think they would allow a day for heterosexuals? More heterosexual students are bullied and even shot but that is a non issue. I don’t think they would even want to take up the issue of marriage as it has nothing to do with K-12 grades.

They get to do this day because it is promoted as bullying but in regard to only one specific group - gay students.
 
gam197 said:
Do you really think they would allow a day for heterosexuals? More heterosexual students are bullied and even shot but that is a non issue. I don’t think they would even want to take up the issue of marriage as it has nothing to do with K-12 grades.

They get to do this day because it is promoted as bullying but in regard to only one specific group - gay students.
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 The point of the offer would be to use the proposed commemoration as a teaching moment, whether or not the officials allow it. It's always better to take the course that could allow for communication and expression of the Church's teaching to take place; if school officials refuse it, then they have to make explicit their grounds for doing that. 

 The main thing that the Holy Father is reminding us is that we don't know in advance what people will think or do, and that we shut Christ within the Church when we act as if we do know what people are thinking or what they are intending.
 
CarmelJerome said:
The point of the offer would be to use the proposed commemoration as a teaching moment, whether or not the officials allow it. It’s always better to take the course that could allow for communication and expression of the Church’s teaching to take place; if school officials refuse it, then they have to make explicit their grounds for doing that.
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 The main thing that the Holy Father is reminding us is that we don't know in advance what people will think or do, and that we shut Christ within the Church when we act as if we do know what people are thinking or what they are intending.
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How would suggest they do this? It has been 20 years since the GLSEN Day of Silence infiltrated the schools.

Does 20 years seem like enough time to come with a strategy as the protestants certainly have one and voice their opposition openly? I probably get into trouble for this but all I hear from catholics is that we should be patient? How is that working?
 
churchatheist said:
This day is about drawing attention to bullying and its harmful effects, which include huge numbers of children committing suicide. You might disagree with gay rights and the day of silence, and you could pursue appropriate means of resisting them if you wanted to. But to purposefully schedule a graded discussion on that day would be to become a bully yourself, and even worse, it would be to use a position of power over children to bully them. For shame.
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No this day isn’t about bullying, it’s about only one kind of bullying. What about all the ugly kids, unathletic kids, short kids, minority race kids, religious kids (such as myself, when I was just a wee catholic lad, I was subjected to constant bullying for my religion)? Where is their day of disrupting classrooms?

Also a classroom is not a democracy. The idea that students should be running the show and dictating how a teacher will be able to teach them in a classroom is ludicrous. Advocating skipping class? Seriously?

Also, if these grade schoolers want to learn what real bullying is, perhaps they should take a look at the activists for the gay agenda, which in just the past week made a lot of news, as this video recounts:

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XH9rBbvXTmw#t=74

*homofacism, noun:

a way of organizing society in which homosexualists impose their agenda with which no one is allowed to disagree or have any appeal to the contrary without being subjected to severe consequences of ridicule, slander, libel, fines, public demonstrations, distortions, denial of free speech rights, loss of employment, and having the word “hate” attached to you in some form.*
 
MarcoPolo said:
In chastising the other poster, I think this is inviting students to run the show, which is a backward methodology. Particularly because many supporters of homosexual lifestyle cry discrimination where there is no discrimination, such as with the Arizona baker case and many others. Things like that make these days of silence seem like agenda groups posing as anti-bullying groups.
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It is reasonable to debate the appropriateness of the day of silence. It is reasonable to debate terminology like “anti-bullying”, “gay rights”, “activist”, “agenda” or whatever. If a person feels like it puts the children in charge of the classroom, undermining the purpose and function of school, it would be reasonable, if so motivated, to make that case to the administration and advocate a different policy. But to use a position of authority to PUNISH CHILDREN because they disagree with you politically is unethical. I’m glad the poster who suggested it is no longer in teaching. He deserves public chastising.
 
gam197 said:
Do you really think they would allow a day for heterosexuals? More heterosexual students are bullied and even shot but that is a non issue. I don’t think they would even want to take up the issue of marriage as it has nothing to do with K-12 grades.

They get to do this day because it is promoted as bullying but in regard to only one specific group - gay students.
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Please, cite cite three cases in the past ten years of a heterosexual student being shot at for being heterosexual.
 
churchatheist said:
It is reasonable to debate the appropriateness of the day of silence. It is reasonable to debate terminology like “anti-bullying”, “gay rights”, “activist”, “agenda” or whatever. If a person feels like it puts the children in charge of the classroom, undermining the purpose and function of school, it would be reasonable, if so motivated, to make that case to the administration and advocate a different policy. But to use a position of authority to PUNISH CHILDREN because they disagree with you politically is unethical. I’m glad the poster who suggested it is no longer in teaching. He deserves public chastising.
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I’m quite fond of my suggestion to preempt this disruption of class by a test to make sure they’ll attend class, and a graded discussion to make sure that there will be a reflection in their grades if they insist on disrupting class through this demonstration.

I’m not like your typical college professor, because I would never give a student a lower grade if he disagreed with me politically, nor would I grandstand in front of naive teenagers about the superiority of my political beliefs and attempt to humiliate him. However, if he wants to disrupt class, I’ll make sure there is a price to pay for both disrupting class and affecting other students’ learning.

Man I have to stop talking about teaching or I’ll want to go back! I believe it probably was my calling, but the immoral things I would have been required to teach…no thanks.
 
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