Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope

[Tigg]

I’ve never understood how it’s a threat to humanity. If homosexuals get married, then I, as a married heterosexual, will stop having kids?

Wouldn’t gay couples who can’t naturally have kids also give more options for places adopted kids could go? I mean, do away with abortion, the numbers of kids put up for adoption will increase. Just a random thought I just had.

Oh, where to start! You’ll note the word “future” in the title. Perhaps the more dire consequences would not immediately be known but most can see what a radically different society we would have by the gradual altering of the traditional family unit. The term social engineering comes to mind. As a society we are bonded together; men and women, parents and children, individuals and the community. Instead of this connectness and a unified society and the good of the whole, we would see individualism - an “anything goes” mentality which would only be assuaged by selfish pursuits - how would the interests of the children be protected and how would they come to knowledge of the correct and beautiful plan for life the Creator has.

 

[catholictiger]

Address can be found at the vatican.va website, here: LINK.

thanks for posting this I was actually looking for the context of these statements. I never really trust secular news sources reporting on Catholic Things.

 

[Barbkw]

I’ve never understood how it’s a threat to humanity. If homosexuals get married, then I, as a married heterosexual, will stop having kids?

Wouldn’t gay couples who can’t naturally have kids also give more options for places adopted kids could go? I mean, do away with abortion, the numbers of kids put up for adoption will increase. Just a random thought I just had.

Statistically, children raised by homosexuals adopt the homosexual lifestyle.

lifesitenews.com/resources/full-interview-with-dr-walter-schumm

Schumm set out to explore the question of how much influence parents have over their children’s sexuality by looking over previous studies done by others–a process called “meta-research.” “I’m trying to prove that it’s not 100 percent genetic,” Schumm told AOLNews.

To do that, Schumm re-examined a body of research through several filters, only using data relevant to parents who declare themselves to be gay and only using data that comes from children who are in their 20s, among other things.

The results of his meta-research indicated that the rates of gay children are much higher when they have gay parents: nearly two-thirds (58%) of lesbians’ adult children are gay, as are one-third (33%) of gay men’s’ adult children.

AOLNews reported that Schumm also sought to prove the part of his thesis that suggests that people will be gay in higher numbers where there is support for homosexuality, as would be the case in households with same-sex parents.

By looking at sociological and anthropological studies, Schumm says, he determined that nearly 90% of the time when there is greater acceptance of homosexuals in a society, there is also a higher rate of homosexual conduct.

Schumm told AOLNews that , claiming that among lesbians there are some that have "a hatred of men that’s intense.lesbian mothers tend to discourage their female offspring from pursuing relationships with men"

 

[catholictiger]

Statistically, children raised by homosexuals adopt the homosexual lifestyle.

lifesitenews.com/resources/full-interview-with-dr-walter-schumm

I haven’t found research on this but I’m pretty sure children risen in homosexual households do not grow up to be normal functioning human, they have psychological problems, they could have to much feminine traits or masculine traits. Could be socially strange. So on and so forth.

 

[unafraid]

“Threat to humanity”??? 1-5% of gay men and lesbian women seek marriage…1-5% of the gay population…the gay population is estimated from 2%-10% of the entire population of adults…seems really strange to claim two gay men living in civil marriage or two women living in civil marriage of such a small sub group would threaten humanity.

Seems like the “threat” is fear mongering…but them…I’m not Catholic.

Fear Mongering? Hardly. Actually, fear is, in many instances, a positive, primal defense mechanism , and when seen as a reponse to this particular onslaught being foisted upon humanity by an elite minority of radical cultural anarchists, it must be viewed as a serious and reasonable reaction. Survival is a reasonable aspiration.

You speak of “fear mongering”, but the Pope is merely standing up for life against a very powerful death cult, therefore, he should instead be viewed as a courageous champion for humanity.

Also, we should all be a little bit afraid living in such dangerous times. Remember, these same forces that are pushing for the redefinition of marriage, are the very same group who coerced into law the degrading of the definition of life itself so that the discarded remnants of the unborn are now fit only for the bottom of a medical waste recepticle.

The Pope is standing his ground, which means he is standing for “our ground”…“Catholic ground”. And, it is time that we all stand with him. Apathy is just not an option. It is a time for courage, and our wonderful Pope , thankfully, has it in abundance.

 

[Montalo]

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[Nelka]

Benedict XVI speaks the truth.

He does.

 

[Tenofovir]

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It may be that Kim Kardashian’s marriage (that specific one) is cheapened by her focus on material pleasures, (I can’t say if that’s true or not), but that’s not the same as trivialising the Sacrament of Marriage (or the institution of marriage).

Wearing a clown suit at a funeral may cheapen that particular funeral, but it does not affect all funerals in itself. But allowing for funerals for broken down TV sets or pets may in fact cheapen the dignity of all funerals.

 

[qui_est_ce]

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Hollywood definitely cheapens the meaning of marriage.

 

[Rence]

Huh? I don’t get those objections. Face it, if children are to be protected, then children with homosexual parents need to be protected, too. I can’t see how a homosexual marriage contaminates the respectability of a traditional marriage. Either your marriage is respectable - in its own right - or not.

Personally, I don’t think the givernment - federal or state - should be involved in the “marriage issue” at all - for heterosexuals or homosexuals. Marriage is a sacrament and shouldn’t be made into a legal standing. I agree that divorce laws get a little sticky when there is no legal definition of marriage, but what really happens in a divorce? Division of assets would have to be on a different standard. Custody of children would be based on evidence that isn’t much different from what is required today.

I don’t really see how it is appropriate to say that the state should not be involved in the marriage issue because “marriage is a Sacrament and shouldn’t be made into a legal standing”. Sacramental marriage has no legal standing anyway. The Sacrament of marriage only applies to Catholics, and is not recognized by the State to begin with. Jewish marriages are not Sacramental. Muslim marriages are not Sacramental. Baptist marriages are not Sacramental. The government is only involved in marriage in what it recognizes legally, and how it affords benefits and constraints to those civilly married. And yes, when legally married couples get separated or divorced, the State has laws in place to protect both parties. The Church doesn’t have the authority, when people get divorced, to look out for the interests of both parties and ensure that both parties honor their responsibilities.

 

[Irish_Eyes_826]

I support traditional marriage, but certain things such as civil unions for gay couples. Honestly, I’m from New York and I really haven’t notice the fabric of society crumble since gay marriage was legalized .

 

[Tenofovir]

I support traditional marriage, but certain things such as civil unions for gay couples. Honestly, I’m from New York and I really haven’t notice the fabric of society crumble since gay marriage was legalized .

Give it time.

 

[Irish_Eyes_826]

Give it time.

Eh. I live near a town where the mayor performed it illegally for years (not that that’s a good thing either), but it’s been going on for years in my neck of the woods, and right next door in Massachusetts. I’m just being honest, nothing’s changed as far as I can tell.

 

[LiveCatholic]

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… but oh so bootylicious?

 

[catholictiger]

My gay friends latched onto this one on Facebook this morning. Oh, the finger-wagging! But if you read Pope Benedict XVI’s address (vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2012/january/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20120109_diplomatic-corps_en.html) he NEVER mentions homosexuality?

As usual, the media takes this as an assault on homosexuals. Talk about reading between the lines! Wanna read more between the lines? “Single-parenthood a threat to humanity’s future.” Where are all the screaming single parents, huh?

He’s advocating the ideal. Marriage is SPECIAL. Marriage is SERIOUS. So many years of moral relativism have eroded the concept of marriage as a SACRAMENT. It’s really considered a legal contract. I have never been opposed to letting anyone enter into a legal contract with any one else, singular, plural, WHATEVER. That’s government. Marriage? That’s a Sacrament. Something else entirely and something that is indeed VITAL to the success of society.

do you think when the pope said what he said, that gay marriage was part of his purpose for saying that?

if the pope is so conceded about gay marriage as all of these secular media say, why wouldn’t he just mention Gay marriage.

 

[Tigg]

The Church doesn’t have the authority, when people get divorced, to look out for the interests of both parties and ensure that both parties honor their responsibilities.

Well, yes, but isn’t divorce one of the top ten traumas in life? I presume you’re speaking about Catholics, who, if they are living the sacramental life would certainly seek spiritual counsel from the “Church” in determining what course of action to take in protecting the family. The thing is, we can’t (or at least shouldn’t, if we are integrated persons,) separate our spiritual well-being from the legal end.

 

[Isolation]

I support traditional marriage, but certain things such as civil unions for gay couples. Honestly, I’m from New York and I really haven’t notice the fabric of society crumble since gay marriage was legalized

Demons aren’t going to rise up and invade New York, nor is there going to be total anarchy on the streets because of this.

What WILL happen however, is that our Catholic faith will be trivialized down to the point where we are only remembered in equal light as Southerners for their racism. Expect the history books in the next decade after national legalization to talk about how the backwards Religious organizations tried to keep gays from having ‘human right’ of marriage with their evil Prop 8 and rejection of gay marriage (including the Catholic Church in these attacks).

Expect whenever a Catholic talks about gay marriage being immoral for the secular society to plug their ears and shout back “It’s legal now so you lose!”

Expect massive gay victory parades, who will no doubt attack the religious institutions who fought against them with cat-calls and by parading nearby the biggest Church they can find.

Expect an even stronger media push to convert your children to the idea that “Homosexuality is not a deviancy.” and expect a higher population of society to shun you if you disagree with that notion.

Expect all Catholic adoption agencies to shut down, with gay marriage approved they would have no legal leg to stand on and would have to either shut down or sell their soul to the Leftist government to stay in business.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to be seen as the scum of the earth just because this Leftist World is working against anything that doesn’t agree with them!

 

[unafraid]

Demons aren’t going to rise up and invade New York, nor is there going to be total anarchy on the streets because of this.

What WILL happen however, is that our Catholic faith will be trivialized down to the point where we are only remembered in equal light as Southerners for their racism. Expect the history books in the next decade after national legalization to talk about how the backwards Religious organizations tried to keep gays from having ‘human right’ of marriage with their evil Prop 8 and rejection of gay marriage (including the Catholic Church in these attacks).

Expect whenever a Catholic talks about gay marriage being immoral for the secular society to plug their ears and shout back “It’s legal now so you lose!”

Expect massive gay victory parades, who will no doubt attack the religious institutions who fought against them with cat-calls and by parading nearby the biggest Church they can find.

Expect an even stronger media push to convert your children to the idea that “Homosexuality is not a deviancy.” and expect a higher population of society to shun you if you disagree with that notion.

Expect all Catholic adoption agencies to shut down, with gay marriage approved they would have no legal leg to stand on and would have to either shut down or sell their soul to the Leftist government to stay in business.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to be seen as the scum of the earth just because this Leftist World is working against anything that doesn’t agree with them!

Very true, and the process you describe is a dangerous form of erosion, a deliberate degradation of sacred ideals and principles. This is part of a methodical revolutionary strategy to break down long-accepted moral values by slowly demonizing them, while, at the same time, extolling the worth of a profane doctrine of moral relativism , secular humanism, and militant atheism.

It is a nefarious form of the “death of a thousand cuts”, where the victim is destroyed from the cumulative effects of many individual wounds. However, the key to this form of execution is that the victim must first be incapacitated. So, while we are still free to do so, we had better resist with all of our vigor.

 

[JimG]

I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to be seen as the scum of the earth just because this Leftist World is working against anything that doesn’t agree with them!

It’s not just that the left is working against anything that doesn’t agree with them. The Left has for a long time taken the initiative to indoctrinate our kids into their worldview, and they have more face-time (aka screen time) with them, as Marybeth Hicks outlines in her latest book.

 

[Irish_Eyes_826]

Demons aren’t going to rise up and invade New York, nor is there going to be total anarchy on the streets because of this.

What WILL happen however, is that our Catholic faith will be trivialized down to the point where we are only remembered in equal light as Southerners for their racism. Expect the history books in the next decade after national legalization to talk about how the backwards Religious organizations tried to keep gays from having ‘human right’ of marriage with their evil Prop 8 and rejection of gay marriage (including the Catholic Church in these attacks).

Expect whenever a Catholic talks about gay marriage being immoral for the secular society to plug their ears and shout back “It’s legal now so you lose!”

Expect massive gay victory parades, who will no doubt attack the religious institutions who fought against them with cat-calls and by parading nearby the biggest Church they can find.

Expect an even stronger media push to convert your children to the idea that “Homosexuality is not a deviancy.” and expect a higher population of society to shun you if you disagree with that notion.

Expect all Catholic adoption agencies to shut down, with gay marriage approved they would have no legal leg to stand on and would have to either shut down or sell their soul to the Leftist government to stay in business.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to be seen as the scum of the earth just because this Leftist World is working against anything that doesn’t agree with them!

I guess I’ll keep paying attention to see if any of that starts, but like I said, I haven’t seen anything that sort yet.