Gay Marriage and Freedom of Religion

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fix said:
This is strange. When a person is born blind is that “natural” to them? Does that mean blindness is how humans were intended to be? Do we understand blindness to be something to be celebrated or treated for correction?
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I think you’re confusing the terms natural and normal. Normal in this case being the majority, not necessarily normal vs abnormal. Would you say that blindness does not happen in nature? People are born blind all the time, it is natural, but not in the majority.
 
NoMoreGames said:
I think you’re confusing the terms natural and normal. Normal in this case being the majority, not necessarily normal vs abnormal. Would you say that blindness does not happen in nature? People are born blind all the time, it is natural, but not in the majority.
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I think you are using the term “natural” in too narrow a way. It is not natural to have pathology. It does occur, but that is not how we are intended to be. Medicine exists to cure pathology. That pathology happens within nature does not make it “natural” as in designed that way by the creator.
 
fix said:
I think you are using the term “natural” in too narrow a way. It is not natural to have pathology. It does occur, but that is not how we are intended to be. Medicine exists to cure pathology. That pathology happens within nature does not make it “natural” as in designed that way by the creator.
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Medicine exists to cure the study of diseases? That really doesn’t make sense at all, but I’ll ignore it because it’s not related.
 
Tonks40 said:
Because gay marriage is NOT life-creating, nor is it life-giving. It’s an affront to the Natural Law. It fits in with abortion and euthenasia…these are all actions towards the culture of death.
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Exactly! Gay marriage cannot produce or give life! This is the reason why Catholics are opposed to it. Not to mention the fact that gay activities are gravely sinful.
 
NoMoreGames said:
To start of, I’m not being sarcastic. That being said, are those who are against gay marriage also against the freedom of religion? I don’t like how the emails this site sends out places it in the same category as things like abortion, and euthanasia. Those two violate human life, which is universal to all humans. Gay marriage, on the other hand, does not take away life nor limit the rights of others. I’m curious as to why people believe that gay marriage should not be allowed in the country when it falls more so under the category of freedom of religion. 🤷
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They are all part of the culture of death or as the last Pope also said a new ideology of evil.
 
fix said:
Surely you are aware the term pathology can mean something abnormal?
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The context you were using it in made it seem like you meant the medial side, especially since not all pathologies (as you used it) can be fixed by medicine, as you state. Sorry about that. 😛
 
Holly3278 said:
Exactly! Gay marriage cannot produce or give life! This is the reason why Catholics are opposed to it. Not to mention the fact that gay activities are gravely sinful.
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So I suppose it would be OK to ban infertile couples from getting married then? Since they can’t produce children.

Guess their only option in life are to be priests or nuns. Sounds wonderful:rolleyes:
 
Holly3278 said:
Exactly! Gay marriage cannot produce or give life! This is the reason why Catholics are opposed to it. Not to mention the fact that gay activities are gravely sinful.
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fix said:
They are all part of the culture of death or as the last Pope also said a new ideology of evil.
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But i’m sure we would all agree that something like atheism is also part of this “culture of death”. Why then should the catholic belief of right and wrong control what happens on a national level? So something that can’t give life is sinful? Watching a movie does not produce life, at they sinful? (no sarcasm)
 
dkdempsey said:
LOL. No where near the amount of death those Catholics caused in the Inquisition. BTW, Hitler was a Catholic. Just thought I would let you know about that.
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Hitler was born Catholic but did not live the faith. Study history man.

How many deaths did the church cause?
 
NoMoreGames said:
The context you were using it in made it seem like you meant the medial side, especially since not all pathologies (as you used it) can be fixed by medicine, as you state. Sorry about that. 😛
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Let’s be honest here. Is it so hard to accept humans know what health and disease are? Why all the games regarding this topic?

People come here all the time claiming deviant acts are “natural” because they occur in nature. As if that statement makes the acts legitimate or good.

Nature allows all types of bad things to go on. That they happen does not lead people to conclude the acts are good, helpful, or consistent with human nature. It simply means they occur.
 
dkdempsey said:
LOL. No where near the amount of death those Catholics caused in the Inquisition. BTW, Hitler was a Catholic. Just thought I would let you know about that.
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And he was a sexual pervert also, which he thought to be more important then being Catholic. He hated the Church like most in the 'gay" rights movement and did whatever he could to silence it on issues which were part of his evil plans.

The gay marriage movement is not an equal rights movement, but a movement aimed at silencing the Church on moral issues in the the Public Square, thus “gay” marriage is about killing the 1st Amendment - that is kill the freedom of Speech and the Freedom of Religion.

Gay marriage is all about taking away freedom and the rights of others.
 
If there was a pill that one could take to be heterosexual most would take it.
 
NoMoreGames said:
But i’m sure we would all agree that something like atheism is also part of this “culture of death”. Why then should the catholic belief of right and wrong control what happens on a national level? So something that can’t give life is sinful? Watching a movie does not produce life, at they sinful? (no sarcasm)
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Why should Catholic belief not control things? Which belief should control things?
 
dkdempsey said:
So I suppose it would be OK to ban infertile couples from getting married then? Since they can’t produce children.

Guess their only option in life are to be priests or nuns. Sounds wonderful:rolleyes:
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How are the two items equivalent?
 
buffalo said:
Hitler was born Catholic but did not live the faith.QUOTE]

So I guess that “once a Catholic, always a Catholic” is really convenient fiction then. I guess that rule applies only when it makes the Catholic Church look good?
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Bennie_P said:
and he was sexual pervert also, which he thought ot be more important then being Catholic.

The gay marriage is not a equal rights movement, but a movement aimed at silencing the Church on moral issues in the the Public Square, thus “gay” marriage is about killing the 1st Amendment - that is freedon of Speech and the Freedom of Religion.

It is all about taking away freedom and the rights of others.
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Wait. You’re saying that by gays wanting the right to marry, THEY are the ones trying to silence rights? How is that possible with their rights are the ones taken away at this point?

You say that they are trying to take away the freedom or religion, when the religion is one the forcing it’s beliefs upon the country. I really don’t follow that.
 
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