Gay Marriage and Freedom of Religion

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Boissoin was trying to silence any “gay” influence in society, but when he was in turn silenced, it’s wrong. Why is it not wrong when he was the one silencing? He is being prevented from sharing his beliefs (which is wrong), yet by silencing others isn’t he doing the same thing?
Boissoin wrote a letter to a newspaper expressing his beliefs. It is ridiculous to claim he was “silencing” anyone in the same way the government “silenced” him through charging him with a crime,ordering him to apologize, fining him, and ordering him to never express his opinion on this mater again.
 
Do you plan on causing PHYSICAL harm to an individual or their property? If so, then you have nothing to worry. It only applies to crimes where physical violence is directly done to a person, or a person’s property. Speech is not physical violence.
Then why was this 75 year old charged?..
frc.org/get.cfm?i=DV07E01&f=PG09B01

There is really no need for “hate crime” legislation if we are not talking about speech. Laws are already in place for acts of physical violence. The experience of other nations in how these laws are applied can not be dismissed out of hand.
 
Then why was this 75 year old charged?..
frc.org/get.cfm?i=DV07E01&f=PG09B01

There is really no need for “hate crime” legislation if we are not talking about speech. Laws are already in place for acts of physical violence. The experience of other nations in how these laws are applied can not be dismissed out of hand.
Those are all cases from other countries without our speech laws, plus I’ll eat my hat before I believe anything the FRC publishes.
 
Those are all cases from other countries without our speech laws
This example happened in the USA.

Also Canada has freedom of speech laws. Bishop Fred Henry lamented the infringement of his free speech rights when he was “investigated” by the hate crimes commission for proclaiming the Catholic Church’s position on homosexual acts.

This new bill (H.R. 1913) specifically mentions being able to prosecute hate speech if it is related to crime.
catholic.net/index.php?size=mas&id=2383&option=dedestaca
The example of pastor Boission is a good example of how this law could prosecute speech here in the U.S… The commission asserted that his letter to the newspaper proclaiming the Biblical basis for seeing homosexual acts as sinful may have contributed to the later beating of a teenager in his area.
lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09041714.html

An overview of the attack on religious speech…
catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=8599
 
This example happened in the USA.

Also Canada has freedom of speech laws. Bishop Fred Henry lamented the infringement of his free speech rights when he was “investigated” by the hate crimes commission for proclaiming the Catholic Church’s position on homosexual acts.

This new bill (H.R. 1913) specifically mentions being able to prosecute hate speech if it is related to crime.
catholic.net/index.php?size=mas&id=2383&option=dedestaca
The example of pastor Boission is a good example of how this law could prosecute speech here in the U.S… The commission asserted that his letter to the newspaper proclaiming the Biblical basis for seeing homosexual acts as sinful may have contributed to the later beating of a teenager in his area.
lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09041714.html

An overview of the attack on religious speech…
catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=8599
The federal test level on that is, if you scream fire and someone gets trampled to death, you could be liable. I see nothing in the actual bills, which are I what I read not the editorialized information by the FRC, that indicate this would change.

The FRC are the same people who say the laws I push for are so I can rape six year old girls in the women’s room. Sorry, not going to believe any source that has claimed me to be a pedophile in the past.
 
This is a simple and easily understandable subject.

Gay marriage first has to be recognized as “abnormal”.

To do this we look at both ends of the spectrum, the fanatic atheistic view and the fanatic Christian view for instance.

Now, atheistic view is based upon evolution, and for the very theory to work, it involves reproduction. If reproduction in a “natural” relationship is not achieved, then survival of the fittest kicks in, and humans as a race of homosexuals will be destroyed.
Yes, I understand that not EVERYONE will ever be gay, but the very fact that they are (in atheistic evolutionist sense) is abnormal.

Christianity on the other hand, blatantly states that homosexuality is wrong and abnormal, as stated in Leviticus 18:22.

Now, what do you believe? Are you atheist? Or are you Christian? Both bases at which these ideologies are formed agree that homosexuality is abnormal.

If people are born gay, it is a disability in a sense, as is Down syndrome or any other defect.
 
Get ready, adhering to the Church’s teachings on homosexuality is about to become a crime in the USA…

lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09041714.html

catholicexchange.com/2008/06/04/112780/
Is it the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church that homosexuality itself is sin? Is it the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church that homosexuals should be fought against by use of murder, torture, or bearing false witness against a neighbor? Do you think the Roman Catholic Church is proclaiming a new “crusade” to defeat the gay infidel? Is it possible that what some people have said for years about Catholics - that they bear lots of children so there will be plenty to fight, and that all Catholics keep a stash of weapons in their houses – that these are true? Did the Pope move the Vatican to the USA the day after JFK was elected?

In addition, who has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the existence of homosexual marriage is an attack on hetersexual marriage? If it has been so proven, by competent authority, then could someone please cite the proof - chapter and verse? Would gay couples, once they are able to legally marry - will they start campaigns to deny heterosexuals the right to marry each other? Is that part of “the gay agenda?”

Or does anyone have competent statistics dealing with gay couples adopting children - statistics that would prove that those adopted children grew up to become homosexuals themselves?

I find it comical that so many people seem to react as if this issue is the first time the government has acted against people proclaiming their faith. Has the government not acted against churches because, in the name of proclaiming their faith, they may have told their people which candidate to vote for in an election? Did the government ever act against the church and its leaders when they preached that it was God’s will that people from Africa be held as slaves - was that really God’s way of saving the slaves because their faith was in error?

One last thought… it seems to me that this whole religion started out as illegal in the government and that its members and leaders both were arrested and put to death for their faith…
 
Is it the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church that homosexuality itself is sin? Is it the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church that homosexuals should be fought against by use of murder, torture, or bearing false witness against a neighbor? Do you think the Roman Catholic Church is proclaiming a new “crusade” to defeat the gay infidel? Is it possible that what some people have said for years about Catholics - that they bear lots of children so there will be plenty to fight, and that all Catholics keep a stash of weapons in their houses – that these are true? Did the Pope move the Vatican to the USA the day after JFK was elected?

In addition, who has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the existence of homosexual marriage is an attack on hetersexual marriage? If it has been so proven, by competent authority, then could someone please cite the proof - chapter and verse? Would gay couples, once they are able to legally marry - will they start campaigns to deny heterosexuals the right to marry each other? Is that part of “the gay agenda?”

Or does anyone have competent statistics dealing with gay couples adopting children - statistics that would prove that those adopted children grew up to become homosexuals themselves?

I find it comical that so many people seem to react as if this issue is the first time the government has acted against people proclaiming their faith. Has the government not acted against churches because, in the name of proclaiming their faith, they may have told their people which candidate to vote for in an election? Did the government ever act against the church and its leaders when they preached that it was God’s will that people from Africa be held as slaves - was that really God’s way of saving the slaves because their faith was in error?

One last thought… it seems to me that this whole religion started out as illegal in the government and that its members and leaders both were arrested and put to death for their faith…
I must ask what all of this means? What is your point? Thank you.
 
I simply selected some of the more common comments that some members here share about homosexuality and asked some questions from a given perspective. For example, to my knowledge, the Roman Catholic Church, in the Papacy of Paul VI drew a distinction between the state of being homosexual and the situation of engaging in homosexual activity. In drawing that distinction, I believe the Supreme Pontiff indicated that BEING homosexual was not sinful - sin occurred in participating in the extra-marital sex. Please correct me if I am wrong.

With this understanding, I am often distressed to see some Catholics use forums of this nature to make statements that seemingly indict a homosexual as living in sin because they are living… indicating that it is the orientation that is sinful. Since the site is called Catholic Answers I simply wanted to know if people thought that was the church’s teaching.

And then there are the myriad of accusations such as that homosexual marriage is a threat the heterosexual marriage or that gay adoptive parents are only trying to capture innocent children to force them to grow up gay.

I don’t have any statistics outside of personal knowledge and experience of real gay couples who are in love and want to celebrate that love publically. I have known about 8 such couples, and when I pointblank asked them if they had plans to destroy heterosexual marriage, several laughed and several look like I had lost my mind. All stated categorically that they had no such plans.

As far as gay adoptive parents, I must admit I know of only two such families. The adopted son of one just celebrated the birth of his own son with his wife of two years. The story of the other adoption is a little different - the adopted minor is now gay. In fact, he knew he was gay and decided to come out to his parents. The parents, Roman Catholics by the way, accepted this news by the father beating his son, then throwing him out of the house with threats to kill him if he ever showed up again. The gay adoptive couple met this 15 old in the psych ward of the hospital where he was staying after he attempted suicide.

The other ranting was more along the lines of several situations in US history in which the church and it’s membership did not rise up to fight obvious sinfulness such as slavery and acts of aggression toward a soverign nation.

Does this help any?

Blessings all!
 
I guess I was rather shocked by your questions. I personally do not see many members expressing the sentiments you mentioned. I am sure most members realize that the Church teaches that homosexual attraction is not sinful in and of itself, however it is disordered. And I guess I would have a problem with your statement emphasizing in bold that "
BEING homosexual was not sinful - sin occurred in participating in the extra-marital sex
". I think it is wrong to identify homosexuality as a state of “being”. It is rather a objectively disordered attraction. “Objectivly” disordered because the “object”/person of attraction is of the same sex. Thus the attraction by its nature should not be equated with heterosexual attraction whose “object” is not intrinsically disordered. The second part of your statement “sin occurred in participating in the extra-marital sex” when taken in the context of a discussion on the legitimacy of same sex marriage is also problematic. If homosexuals could marry in the eyes of God and the Church (not just legally) their sex would then be considered not sinful. I doubt this is what you were asserting because the Church has made it clear that same-sex “marriages” could never be valid. So adoption by homosexual couples could never be accepted by the Church either.I am not an expert on these matters but this is my understanding of the Church’s teachings. Please point me to official Church documents contradicting my understanding if you believe me to be in error.

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I simply selected some of the more common comments that some members here share about homosexuality and asked some questions from a given perspective. For example, to my knowledge, the Roman Catholic Church, in the Papacy of Paul VI drew a distinction between the state of being homosexual and the situation of engaging in homosexual activity. In drawing that distinction, I believe the Supreme Pontiff indicated that BEING homosexual was not sinful - sin occurred in participating in the extra-marital sex. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I think the point is we all have objectively disordered inclinations. One such inclination is toward same sex attraction that some folks have. The inclination is not a sin but it is not ordered correctly, like many other inclinations we all have.
With this understanding, I am often distressed to see some Catholics use forums of this nature to make statements that seemingly indict a homosexual as living in sin because they are living… indicating that it is the orientation that is sinful. Since the site is called Catholic Answers I simply wanted to know if people thought that was the church’s teaching.
Living with an inclination is no sin. How we act on that inclination is another matter.
And then there are the myriad of accusations such as that homosexual marriage is a threat the heterosexual marriage or that gay adoptive parents are only trying to capture innocent children to force them to grow up gay.
I don’t have any statistics outside of personal knowledge and experience of real gay couples who are in love and want to celebrate that love publically. I have known about 8 such couples, and when I pointblank asked them if they had plans to destroy heterosexual marriage, several laughed and several look like I had lost my mind. All stated categorically that they had no such plans.
They may have no explicit plans, but such behavior has effects on society and the family.
As far as gay adoptive parents, I must admit I know of only two such families. The adopted son of one just celebrated the birth of his own son with his wife of two years. The story of the other adoption is a little different - the adopted minor is now gay. In fact, he knew he was gay and decided to come out to his parents. The parents, Roman Catholics by the way, accepted this news by the father beating his son, then throwing him out of the house with threats to kill him if he ever showed up again. The gay adoptive couple met this 15 old in the psych ward of the hospital where he was staying after he attempted suicide.
The other ranting was more along the lines of several situations in US history in which the church and it’s membership did not rise up to fight obvious sinfulness such as slavery and acts of aggression toward a soverign nation.
Does this help any?
Blessings all!
I find this line of reasoning is troubling because we start from a very different definition of love, health, and right and wrong. If we cannot agree on basic definitions then I can see why we hold such opposing views.
 
If you look at the context of Leviticus you will find that there are many other things that are labeled as sin that we no longer punish. If you are going to quote Leviticus then logically you and all society will be bound by all of Leviticus. Shall we also stone adulterers or men who have sex with their wives during menses. Does any of the Levitical Law apply to Christians or do only certain parts? Which parts? By what authority? The Levitical laws were part of the purity code which also forbade Jews to intermarry with Gentiles. The law was to promote procreation and to sanction anything that prevented or circumvented it. It is also a context in which it was understood that “All” men were Heterosexual. We know now that that is simply not true.
This is a simple and easily understandable subject.

Gay marriage first has to be recognized as “abnormal”.

To do this we look at both ends of the spectrum, the fanatic atheistic view and the fanatic Christian view for instance.

Now, atheistic view is based upon evolution, and for the very theory to work, it involves reproduction. If reproduction in a “natural” relationship is not achieved, then survival of the fittest kicks in, and humans as a race of homosexuals will be destroyed.
Yes, I understand that not EVERYONE will ever be gay, but the very fact that they are (in atheistic evolutionist sense) is abnormal.

Christianity on the other hand, blatantly states that homosexuality is wrong and abnormal, as stated in Leviticus 18:22.

Now, what do you believe? Are you atheist? Or are you Christian? Both bases at which these ideologies are formed agree that homosexuality is abnormal.

If people are born gay, it is a disability in a sense, as is Down syndrome or any other defect.
 
Interesting approach Alan…sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Thank you. Unfortunately, I believe we live in a very strong" pick and choose" society - somewhat of a Selective Hearing group. For example, American women have fought for their freedom and equality for a very long time. Why does it seem like one Miss America Pageant can set the cause back a few years? When are “they” going to start Mr. America Pageant where men have to parade around in swimwear?

Of course, the biggie**…why, in the Name of God, are there still hungry people, not only in this country, but around the world?** Remember the miracle story of the Loaves and the Fishes? There is an alternate message that can be taken from the Miracle of the Loaves and Fishes… we could believe that only by the sacred hands of Jesus tearing the loaves of bread and passing them out - while they multiplied enough to feed five thousand. Basic traditional interpretation. Then, it COULD be, that seeing Jesus’ example of taking what was there and sharing it with others, that all those who brought food chose to follow the example of Jesus and share with their neighbors who had no food. and ALL ate to their satisfaction and there was still baskets full of bread left over — there’s your miracle - the miracle of people looking beyond their own needs in order to actively participate in the corporal work of mercy of feeding the hungry.
Now, I could be totally wrong, but I believe that when we die and go to the gates, and they open that big book where every deed of our life is written down, that St. Peter will look at the person’s life and history - and wonder why, and indeed ASK why there is no record of feeding the hungry. If that person were to account for this by saying, “Yeah, we kept those Homosexuals from marrying each other…” well, you decide.
Oh - you know that Sermon on the Mount? JESUS MEANT IT, you know!
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Sorry I started preaching...force of habit!
Pax et Bonum,
 
If you look at the context of Leviticus you will find that there are many other things that are labeled as sin that we no longer punish. If you are going to quote Leviticus then logically you and all society will be bound by all of Leviticus. Shall we also stone adulterers or men who have sex with their wives during menses. Does any of the Levitical Law apply to Christians or do only certain parts? Which parts? By what authority? The Levitical laws were part of the purity code which also forbade Jews to intermarry with Gentiles. The law was to promote procreation and to sanction anything that prevented or circumvented it. It is also a context in which it was understood that “All” men were Heterosexual. We know now that that is simply not true.
You think it is not fornication to have a male stick his penis up another male’s rectum?

Jesus demonstrated that stoning was wrong, and the Ten Commandments also states that we shall not kill. Fortification is wrong; marriage in the bible was for a relationship between a man and woman. Jesus did not come to change the Old Testament, he came to fulfil it.
 
To start of, I’m not being sarcastic. That being said, are those who are against gay marriage also against the freedom of religion? I don’t like how the emails this site sends out places it in the same category as things like abortion, and euthanasia. Those two violate human life, which is universal to all humans. Gay marriage, on the other hand, does not take away life nor limit the rights of others. I’m curious as to why people believe that gay marriage should not be allowed in the country when it falls more so under the category of freedom of religion. 🤷
Thank you. Finally a Catholic gets the constitution. I’m some what joking of course but you are definitely spot on what the issue ultimately is. Here I’ll quote what I said in another forum topic:
doubtingdaniel said:
Homosexuality is NOT a psychological problem. It is in fact an often occurrence in nature among many different species!!! It has in fact been studied through independent genetic research groups and the scientific evidence points to homosexuality being a hereditary trait! The same goes for heterosexuality! Gay marriage wouldn’t be anymore damaging to the individuals than heterosexual marriage! It is an inherited right as an American and this nation was not founded as a Christian nation! It was clearly founded as a Secular nation in which case religion should have no say in the freedoms of others!!!
To add on to this, why does love become “evil” just because the body parts are similar? How does love become different when its with the same or opposite gender? Anyone who has a mature understanding of love knows that when it comes to marriage its about devotion, fidelity, commitment, and sharing what little life we have with another human being. These have nothing to do with gender. Anyone with a mature sense of love knows its not about the mechanics of sex. If it was just about sex than people would just do away with the marriage. And yet I hear you guys go on on like that’s what’s most important and that’s what makes marriage sacred to you. Which just goes to show what your truly immature concept of marriage really is.

And for you guys to say “Well its just not natural,” is completely absurd because the scientific evidence shows the contrary. Then you say its all about procreating children but what then do you say to the thousands of heterosexual wives and husbands that can’t give their spouse’s children but still love each other all the same? Gay couples could adopt and try to relieve our foster care system which is overwhelmed with unwanted children. Then you say, “Well gay couples can’t possibly raise children as well as heterosexual couples can!”, then you’d be wrong again because numerous psychology studies have shown gays are equally as capable at raising children as straights are.

What it usually comes down to is people just don’t like the idea that a couple of gays can have an equal relationship as the one they have with their husband/wife. That is what the ultimate issue people have with gay marriage when we boil it down. Pure bigotry if I ever saw it. NoMoreGames, you are dead right. Gays being denied the right to marry is unconstitutional. Marriage should be an unalienable right, no matter the sexual preference, but yet it is being alienated. Gay marriage would not degrade your own or even the values of marriage and it wouldn’t harm your marriage either. So why fight to deny a right, you easily receive, to those who rightfully deserve it?

Think About It.
 
Thank you. Finally a Catholic gets the constitution.

No marital “rights” in constitution. That is a matter of ambiguous interpretation of the broad “right to privacy,” which taken to its ultimate would also mean that you can be a polygamist, marry under-age, etc. The unspecified assumption of “rights” is subject to the specified restriction on rights by several layers of court systems, and/or by laws passed and not successfully challenged by states or the federal gov’'t.

To add on to this, why does love become “evil” just because the body parts are similar? How does love become different when its with the same or opposite gender? Anyone who has a mature understanding of love knows that when it comes to marriage its about devotion, fidelity, commitment, and sharing what little life we have with another human being.

No. That can also be applied to maternal and paternal love.

These have nothing to do with gender.

But in this country, marriage grants you parenthood rights, and parenthood has very much to do with gender. A ‘single parent’ defines only a household reality. The opposite-gender original parent is still the the other parent if alive. If one parent is deceased, the remaining parent is single presumably not by choice, and if there ends up being no remarriage, frankly the surviving children are indeed affected (hurt) by having only one parental gender as the primary relationship, despite how many secondary and tertiary relationships develop with adults of the other gender.

Anyone with a mature sense of love knows its not about the mechanics of sex. If it was just about sex than people would just do away with the marriage.

Millions have done anyway with it: It’s called cohabitation, and it’s about the mechanics of sex.

And yet I hear you guys go on on like that’s what’s most important and that’s what makes marriage sacred to you. Which just goes to show what your truly immature concept of marriage really is.

And for you guys to say “Well its just not natural,” is completely absurd because the scientific evidence shows the contrary. Then you say its all about procreating children but what then do you say to the thousands of heterosexual wives and husbands that can’t give their spouse’s children but still love each other all the same? Gay couples could adopt and try to relieve our foster care system which is overwhelmed with unwanted children. Then you say, “Well gay couples can’t possibly raise children as well as heterosexual couples can!”, then you’d be wrong again because numerous psychology studies have shown gays are equally as capable at raising children as straights are.

Capability does not make for desirability from the aspects of an identifiable family unit.

What it usually comes down to is people just don’t like the idea that a couple of gays can have an equal relationship as the one they have with their husband/wife. That is what the ultimate issue people have with gay marriage when we boil it down. Pure bigotry if I ever saw it. NoMoreGames, you are dead right. Gays being denied the right to marry is unconstitutional. Marriage should be an unalienable right, no matter the sexual preference, but yet it is being alienated

You may think it “should” be, but the Founders disagreed with you, because if it was such a clear “right,” as important as the ones their countrymen left other lands and shed blood for, I guarantee you it would have been specified in the Founding documents.

Gay marriage would not degrade your own or even the values of marriage and it wouldn’t harm your marriage either. So why fight to deny a right, you easily receive, to those who rightfully deserve it?

Because language is loaded with meaning and gender is profound and primal. And anybody who really cared about equality and equal rights would care not to deprive children of the formative and irreplaceable complementariness of both genders as full partners in that formation. Because children raised in such households have been deprived of something that dual-sex parents provide, by their very being/nature, before one even begins to talk about quality of parenting. In seeking to create new rights and then celebrating them, you have removed rights from a dependent child. Roles may be a social contruct, but gender is not. Men and woman are essentially and profoundly different, and children have a right to experience directly and from birth, those differences, because the patterning of their identity and personhood is derived from the people they identify as parents.

Think About It.
 
"Well . . .What it usually comes down to is people just don’t like the idea that a couple of gays can have an equal relationship as the one they have with their husband/wife. That is what the ultimate issue people have with gay marriage when we boil it down. Pure bigotry if I ever saw it. NoMoreGames, you are dead right. Gays being denied the right to marry is unconstitutional. Marriage should be an unalienable right, no matter the sexual preference, but yet it is being alienated. Gay marriage would not degrade your own or even the values of marriage and it wouldn’t harm your marriage either. So why fight to deny a right, you easily receive, to those who rightfully deserve it?

Think About It.
Correct, the majority of society does not want to see gay couples in equal relationships. Why? Christianity. Biblical references are clear. Laying with a man as one would a woman is an abomination. That’s not something some Old Testament guy said, it was the direct Word of God passed down. All societies have clearly adopted this, whether from Christian heritage or from inherent sense of morality. In 30 years of gay lobbying, I still haven’t heard how or why homosexual acts can be justified under the bible. I hear, Oh, that was the old days when people were prejudiced. That doesn’t work as it was God himself quoted. So, all the smoke and mirrors and double-talk never squarely address how homosexual acts are moral, because they aren’t.

There is NO Bigotry or DISCRIMINATION in societal denial of gay marriage. It is a totally false argument that denial is unconstitutional, presumabley under the 14th Amendment’s equal protection clause. Gays are not a protected class. It is not an immutable characteristic like age, race, gender. Secondly, marriage is not denied them. They can marry just as anyone else does, with an opposite sex member. It is so phony to say that gay marriage also is inherent in the 14th Amendment. Female and male are obviously not the same as male and male or female and female so the unequal protection argument is a house of cards.

And here’s how gay marriage hurts society: It would equate heterosexual marriage to gay sexual conduct which society and the majority of individuals still consider to be inherently immoral. Secondly, children would be taught that it is the law and be taught homosexual sensitivity, which sends a message that gay conduct is A-OK, fine, healthy, normal. It IS confusing. Encourages experimentation which would hurt that individual for all time, and their mates. Children would be deprived of mother/father households. Two members of the same sex cannot provide opposite sex roles. They can only pretend. Finally, it does, legally, open the door to more immorality being legalized. The society objections to poligamy, underage marriage, and pedephelia automatically fall when gay marriage is legalized. That is not to say gays are like that but in constitutional legal argument, the legally those “freedoms” will be sought next.

Let us also not forget that the law has been perverted before. Remember slavery? Remember how our own Supreme Court declarled that to be legitamate and lawful? Dred Scott decision 1856, I think. Was that right? Moral? Judges are not beyond error. Our system merely tries to attain the philosophical “justice.”

We have to regard gays with compassion, respect and treat them as any other person. Regardless of their life style, from a secular point of view, I think they ought to be left to do what they want. They are able to attain all of the things marriage delivers without state sactioned marriage. They can join their property, get joint health care, inherit by Last Will and Testament, be elected as medical decision maker. The only thing is hospital visitation and burial decisions and that can clearly be given by statue. But what they want is a forced acceptance. The degree to which they become emotionally unhinged when anyone opposes them is a tactic which has emotinally blackmailed/intimidated the younger generation into believing if you oppose gay marriage you are a bigot and that is not the case. The gay marriage issue is bigger than itself. Now it stands for the self destruction of the judicial system. Judges have forced the issue on the people rather than left it to the legislature and the will of the people. The legal analyses declaring gay marriage from courts is more than specious; they’re gerrymandered double-talk to get to the result they want, just like Dred Scott was. This issue is causing the loss of the rule of law. It does not bode well for the country. It is also a frontal attack on the Church and Christian ideology; they want to outlaw it – antoher Constitutional issue but much more clear one.
 
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