Gay marriage //complicity in sin // honoring parents

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In fact he did. He described his friends as having serious failings and yet he never mentioned cutting them out of his life. The reason is because Saint Augustine remembered when he was a pagan and a Manichean, so he knew better than to take a Holier Than Thou attitude or to turn his nose up at others.
 
Lots of assumptions here about St. Monica and St. Augustine.
How much did they really see each other? I don’t even know if they lived in the same city. Would St. Monica have accompanied St. Augustine to an equivalent event as a gay wedding while he was in his pagan days? Was there anything as openly accepted and against traditional morality then as a gay wedding, even in the Roman empire? Would St Monica have hung out a bar? Would she have been seen as uptight and judgmental on CAF?
 
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GordonP said:
Actually, you don’t have to worry because I can’t imagine anyone wanting to hang out with a judgemental person like you. It would be like spending time with the Spanish Inquisition.

Again, praying for you.
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You are equally guilty though.
 
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Lots of assumptions here about St. Monica and St. Augustine.
How much did they really see each other? I don’t even know if they lived in the same city. Would St. Monica have accompanied St. Augustine to an equivalent event as a gay wedding while he was in his pagan days?
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The thread is not about the son accompanying his mother to a gay wedding.

The son is not going to the wedding.

The mother has not asked him to go to a gay wedding. She asked him to go on a family vacation with other members of the family present. The only person planning to go to the wedding is the mother. She is also apparently the only one who knows the person getting married and the only one who was invited.

This point has been made over and over and over already.

St. Monica’s relationship with St. Augustine is very well documented in his writings. She saw her son quite frequently, though he lived in a variety of places and often at a distance from her. She constantly was trying to influence him away from his bad lifestyle. She did not shun him or bar him from her home, and he did not expect her to participate in his sinful lifestyle.
 
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St. Monica’s relationship with St. Augustine is very well documented in his writings. She saw her son quite frequently, though he lived in a variety of places and often at a distance from her. She constantly was trying to influence him away from his bad lifestyle. She did not shun him or bar him from her home, and he did not expect her to participate in his sinful lifestyle.
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That’s true. In fact, Saint Monica actually had a vision telling her not to disown Saint Augustine after he told her he was a Manichean. As a result she followed him from Carthage to Rome, and then again to Milan, despite him seemingly trying to avoid her at this point in time.
 
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That’s just like a mom, to be following her son around and hounding him when he’s trying to get away from her and commit sins in peace 🙂
 
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I think you need to reread my post. Or you have me confused with someone else.
 
Oh. I thought we were also having a larger discussion about Christian behavior which included St. Augustine and his friends, as well as Monica and Augustine.
 
If you are the child of a man who utilizes your mother for a womb (as was often done in the bible by men, e.g. Hagar) and the man chooses to raise you with a male partner, are you breaking a commandment by refusing to acknowledge your father’s partner?
 
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