Gay pride event in our town

[JanSobieskiIII]

It would be turned over and trashed without anyone there with it.

 

[Maximilian75]

Then maybe have one person sitting there just minding it, but not going full Westboro mode

 

[Brendan]

You’re talking about political and legal recourse, not protesting. I’m asking what Catholics protest. We hardly ever protest sexual immorality or divorce, perhaps because we don’t want to offend straight people

Not true. I was involved in protests over an effort to open an adult bookstore, and I have seen very similar efforts elsewhere.

As far as divorce, that itself is not contradictory to the Catholic Faith. What IS contradictory is attempts at remarriage.

And really, the protests of abortion, almost by definition, are targeting actions by straight people.

 

[QContinuum]

The event will happen on the green across the road from our church.

Why are you wanting to set up a booth at this event? You are located across the street from it.

Here’s an idea: talk to the priest about setting up a welcome banner in front of your parish. Schedule to have a special block of confession, Mass, and perhaps a meal afterwards. Invite a representative from Courage to be available to meet with anyone who is looking for support.

I don’t see what a booth will do besides attempt to compete with the larger and louder narrative. You can only do that by being conspicuous in a likely very negative way.

Instead, change the game and make this about showing in a very real way how the CC wants to welcome these people and give them the spiritual medicine that they need.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Eric, I would advise that your parish not get involved one way or another.

Regardless of what you say, the media will make you out to be the bad guys.

If you must, wait til a later date and have an event promoting marriage between one man and one woman.

Jim

 

[theCardinalbird]

Whenever I see anything “pride” like school pride, proud parent bumper sticker, pride parade, etc. I think, “Now isn’t pride one of those pesky deadly sins?”

My Catholic school had a pride day . I was always thinking the same thing; pride is a sin

 

[Mtatum1958]

We would be allowed to talk about the benefits of marriage for life, but we would not be allowed to talk about what we are against.

Talk about what you are for: Marriage is a sacred union between one man and one women. That isn’t opposed to the council’s request, but it isn’t sacrificing your beliefs. I would be really prepared to answer an onslaught of opposing views, and maybe even verbal abuse, but you wouldn’t be choosing to do this if you were unaware of that potential.

 

[TheLittleLady]

What a wonderful opportunity to be Christ. Give out cold bottles of water.

Be kind and loving.

 

[Axsenex]

I plan to visit Stonewall National Monument one day.

 

[redbetta]

Maybe you can organize a Eucharistic Adoration flash mob.

 

[Prodigal_Son]

Not true. I was involved in protests over an effort to open an adult bookstore, and I have seen very similar efforts elsewhere.

“Hardly ever” is consistent with “sometimes”.

As far as divorce, that itself is not contradictory to the Catholic Faith. What IS contradictory is attempts at remarriage.

That’s not the way I understand it, at all. I understand that legal divorce is a very serious sin in most cases, which may nevertheless in rare cases be permissible.

 

[Axsenex]

Funny because I’ve seen a strip club right next to a Baptist Church.

 

[theCardinalbird]

In terms of what one should do if a gay pride parade is happening near a Church. I would have adoration to pray for the souls in that parade. Also I think it would be best to have pamphlets for information on what the Church says about “our brothers and sisters in Christ who experience same sex attraction.”

If one goes and starts protesting at the parade. Then what could that accomplish? It would be a perfect way for the media to say that the Church hates people who struggle with this. Regardless what ones intentions are at the parade, if anything goes against what they are celebrating, they will almost always paint a homophobic picture of those with religion.

They don’t distinguish between acts and attraction. If one wishes to evangelize about this topic, then go on talk shows, make sermon about it, make pamphlets for all to have. Use the media to get the message across of what the Church teaches. Its a powerful tool and can be used for the right reasons

 

[BlackFriar]

As far as divorce, that itself is not contradictory to the Catholic Faith.

It is abnorrent actually, just like killing or appropriating the property of another.
Though there are rarish circumstances where choosing these abhorrent things is tolerable.

Surely you mean “separation”.

 

[Crocus]

If you go with a sign, a simple “Agape” might be appropriate.

 

[Brendan]

It is abnorrent actually, just like killing or appropriating the property of another.

Though there are rarish circumstances where choosing these abhorrent things is tolerable.

Surely you mean “separation”.

Nope, I mean civil divorce. The severing of civil legal connections between two married persons. Of course, this does not sever a true marriage bond, but rather, the civil effects of marriage. It is not intrinsically immoral.

See CCC 2383

 

[Prodigal_Son]

CCC:

2382 The Lord Jesus insisted on the original intention of the Creator who willed that marriage be indissoluble.173 He abrogates the accommodations that had slipped into the old Law.174
Between the baptized, "a ratified and consummated marriage cannot be dissolved by any human power or for any reason other than death."175

2383 The separation of spouses while maintaining the marriage bond can be legitimate in certain cases provided for by canon law.176
If civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of the children, or the protection of inheritance, it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense.

2384 Divorce is a grave offense against the natural law. It claims to break the contract, to which the spouses freely consented, to live with each other till death. Divorce does injury to the covenant of salvation, of which sacramental marriage is the sign. Contracting a new union, even if it is recognized by civil law, adds to the gravity of the rupture: the remarried spouse is then in a situation of public and permanent adultery:

If a husband, separated from his wife, approaches another woman, he is an adulterer because he makes that woman commit adultery, and the woman who lives with him is an adulteress, because she has drawn another’s husband to herself.177

2385 Divorce is immoral also because it introduces disorder into the family and into society. This disorder brings grave harm to the deserted spouse, to children traumatized by the separation of their parents and often torn between them, and because of its contagious effect which makes it truly a plague on society.

2386 It can happen that one of the spouses is the innocent victim of a divorce decreed by civil law; this spouse therefore has not contravened the moral law. There is a considerable difference between a spouse who has sincerely tried to be faithful to the sacrament of marriage and is unjustly abandoned, and one who through his own grave fault destroys a canonically valid marriage.178

 

[BlackFriar]

Well you are mistaken on this point then re actual Church teaching.
Divorce, like remarriage and other serious matters is objectively evil and so one should not freely choose to do so in most circumstances.

2384 Divorce is a grave offense against the natural law.
2385 Divorce is immoral also because it introduces disorder into the family and into society.

 

[Peebo]

Eric_Hyom6h
Be respectful to the people at the event, don’t be hateful.

That will be our aim. But I sense people with fairy extreme views from many sides will turn up.

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[Brendan]

Note in 2383 that there are circumstances where it is not a moral offense. That is the very definition of not being intrinsically evil.

Thus my statement is correct.