Gay priest fearful ahead of memoirs publication

[Bexatron5000]

A priest fears he will be defrocked after his explosive memoirs, containing intimate details of a 14-year marriage to another gay man, are published next month.
Fr Bernard Lynch, who is openly gay and thinks gay priests make up 50% of the Catholic clergy, discloses for the first time his relationship with fellow Irishman Billy Desmond in his forthcoming autobiography.

More here: irishexaminer.com/ireland/gay-priest-fearful-ahead-of-memoirs-publication-190013.html

 

[Corki]

“I can go into confession and say I have been in every sauna and bath-house and sex club in London 10 times a week and I can get absolved for my sins, but if I go in and say, ‘I have been in love with a man for 19 years, married for 14’, there’s no absolution. That’s the sickness of the Church.”

Of course he could get absolution. Is he really that unlearned about Catholic teaching (a scary concept for a priest) or is he just twisting it for the sound bite?

 

[pepipop]

A priest fears he will be defrocked after his explosive memoirs, containing intimate details of a 14-year marriage to another gay man, are published next month.
Fr Bernard Lynch, who is openly gay and thinks gay priests make up 50% of the Catholic clergy, discloses for the first time his relationship with fellow Irishman Billy Desmond in his forthcoming autobiography.

More here: irishexaminer.com/ireland/gay-priest-fearful-ahead-of-memoirs-publication-190013.html

More of satan’s helpers come out of the woodwork. Why the book, who wants to read his memoirs and why does he feel the need for vainglory to write about ‘himself’, apart from bolstering the secular public against the CC?

I am certain there is a prophecy by a saint, regarding everyone will want to write a book about themselves, but I cannot find it.

 

[anp1215]

No, if he was so afraid of being defrocked, he wouldn’t have written the book. That would be like me cussing out my boss at work and then being afraid of getting fired.

 

[Theophorus]

A priest fears he will be defrocked after his explosive memoirs, containing intimate details of a 14-year marriage to another gay man, are published next month.
Fr Bernard Lynch, who is openly gay and thinks gay priests make up 50% of the Catholic clergy, discloses for the first time his relationship with fellow Irishman Billy Desmond in his forthcoming autobiography.

More here: irishexaminer.com/ireland/gay-priest-fearful-ahead-of-memoirs-publication-190013.html

Maybe he should have thought about the consequences of his actions before rather than being ‘fearful’ now. I mean if the man decides to give-in to disordered inclinations and enter into a so called ‘marriage’ with another man, and also deny the efficacy of the sacrament of reconciliation and then write a book about it its a bit late now to be fearful. This sounds more like pre-publication promotion rather than genuine concern for the repercussions of his actions.

 

[rfournier103]

More fodder for our detractors. How can we teach about morality when allegedly 50% of our priests are gay? In my opinion, this man had no business being a priest.

 

[Leegal]

He should not be counseling homosexual priests, IMO. I can’t see how he can provide the right guidance to a priest struggling when he himself is acting contrary to faith.

 

[Theophorus]

More fodder for our detractors. How can we teach about morality when allegedly 50% of our priests are gay? In my opinion, this man had no business being a priest.

Truth isn’t a numbers game. It’s like saying we should give up on teaching people to be better Christians because 100% of us fail at that at some point. This man should, most likely, be laicised as he is living a life at odds with both his state of life as a consecrated celibate, with his ordination promises and with the life of the church. The real scandal here I think is that if he is indeed “openly gay” he hasn’t been disciplined before now.

 

[rfournier103]

Truth isn’t a numbers game. It’s like saying we should give up on teaching people to be better Christians because 100% of us fail at that at some point. This man should, most likely, be laicised as he is living a life at odds with both his state of life as a consecrated celibate, with his ordination promises and with the life of the church. The real scandal here I think is that if he is indeed “openly gay” he hasn’t been disciplined before now.

What discipline could he possibly recieve that would mean anything to him? If he feared hell, he would not have engaged in such behavior in the first place.

 

[Theophorus]

What discipline could he possibly recieve that would mean anything to him? If he feared hell, he would not have engaged in such behavior in the first place.

To my mind fraternal correction is much more an act of love than simply a duty. If he were my brother I would try my best ti correct him as an act of christian charity if nothing else! Which of us would not try to stop someone walking off the edge of a cliff?

 

[Usige]

What discipline could he possibly recieve that would mean anything to him? If he feared hell, he would not have engaged in such behavior in the first place.

It’s less about discipline him. Laicization would be because he is actively, and openly, flouting the teachings of the church. This would save his flock from having him able to exercise public ministry while presumably teaching contrary to the Church. This would be no different than a heterosexual priest that is openly living with his girlfriend in the rectory.

 

[pepipop]

It’s less about discipline him. Laicization would be because he is actively, and openly, flouting the teachings of the church. This would save his flock from having him able to exercise public ministry while presumably teaching contrary to the Church. This would be no different than a heterosexual priest that is openly living with his girlfriend in the rectory.

Precisely, the fact that he’s written a book that all the world may read, that is presenting information against catholic teaching, then he should be laicized - which needless to say will incur more ‘anti-catholic’ comments, i.e. the CC is ‘homophobic’.

 

[FCEGM]

A priest fears he will be defrocked after his explosive memoirs, containing intimate details of a 14-year marriage to another gay man, are published next month.
Fr Bernard Lynch, who is openly gay and thinks gay priests make up 50% of the Catholic clergy, discloses for the first time his relationship with fellow Irishman Billy Desmond in his forthcoming autobiography.

More here: irishexaminer.com/ireland/gay-priest-fearful-ahead-of-memoirs-publication-190013.html

:nope: The only thing he’s afraid of is not getting any publicity.

 

[ringil]

This priest says that priests are entering seminary at 14 or 16. Well, if that were true it would be problematic, but nowadays priest don’t enter until their early 20’s.

The training for priests is also much better in the area of human sexuality than it was in the past.

 

[Holly3278]

If this priest is in a homosexual relationship then he clearly needs to be disciplined. He seems to dissent from Church teaching on matters of homosexuality. I hope and pray that he ends the homosexual relationship and repents of any heretical views he has.

I understand that homosexuals have a very difficult time living the celibate life. I understand that they would like to have a relationship with another homosexual but the fact is, such relationships are sinful. Homosexuality is objectively disordered and therefore homosexual relationships are also disordered. Just because living life as a homosexual Catholic is difficult is no excuse to blatantly violate Church teachings.

I have a difficult life living as a Catholic with scrupulosity and mental illness but just because I deal with these things is no excuse for me to openly dissent from Church teaching and violate Church teaching.

I just hope and pray that this priest gets the help he needs so that he can live a life that is faithful to the Church.

 

[catharina]

Maybe he should have thought about the consequences of his actions before rather than being ‘fearful’ now. I mean if the man decides to give-in to disordered inclinations and enter into a so called ‘marriage’ with another man, and also deny the efficacy of the sacrament of reconciliation and then write a book about it its a bit late now to be fearful. This sounds more like pre-publication promotion rather than genuine concern for the repercussions of his actions.

Ya’ think???

YES.

 

[Theophorus]

Ya’ think???

YES.

No, I’m just stabbing wildly in the dark on this one, hoping for unsarcastic, constructive comments like yours to guide me.

 

[catharina]

No, I’m just stabbing wildly in the dark on this one, hoping for unsarcastic, constructive comments like yours to guide me.

 

[Rocky24]

It would be like removing a stinging thorn if this priest was to be defroked and excommunicated, so that every other priest in our Holy Church that thinks like him will see that we’re not going to tolerate any absurd and outrageous comments on the Church’s teachings on sexuality. He better be scared!

 

[Ecoclimber]

“I can go into confession and say I have been in every sauna and bath-house and sex club in London 10 times a week and I can get absolved for my sins, but if I go in and say, ‘I have been in love with a man for 19 years, married for 14’, there’s no absolution. That’s the sickness of the Church.”

“Of course he could get absolution. Is he really that unlearned about Catholic teaching (a scary concept for a priest) or is he just twisting it for the sound bite?”

No, he cannot! To receive absolution, one must repent. Repent means to turn away from your sin with a firm purpose of amendment not to commit the sin, with genuine sorrow. Perfect contrition is a hatred toward all sin, because of your love for God.

1451 Among the penitent’s acts contrition occupies first place. Contrition is “sorrow of the soul and detestation for the sin committed, together with the resolution not to sin again.”

From New Advent

• It is not true that for the Catholic the mere “telling of one’s sins” suffices to obtain their forgiveness. Without sincere sorrow and purpose of amendment, confession avails nothing, the pronouncement of absolution is of no effect, and the guilt of the sinner is greater than before.
• While this sacrament as a dispensation of Divine mercy facilitates the pardoning of sin, it by no means renders sin less hateful or its consequences less dreadful to the Christian mind; much less does it imply permission to commit sin in the future. In paying ordinary debts, as e.g., by monthly settlements, the intention of contracting new debts with the same creditor is perfectly legitimate; a similar intention on the part of him who confesses his sins would not only be wrong in itself but would nullify the sacrament and prevent the forgiveness of sins then and there confessed.

With every intention to continue the sinful behavior and actually relish in the sin, then there is no sincerity of repentance. Otherwise, you fall into the heresy of Antinomianism which was condemned by the church…cheap grace

Hebrews 10:19-26, 2 Peter 2 13:22, Jude 1