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JimG
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I’m not sure why members of a Catholic teachers’ union would object to acting and teaching in accord with Catholic morality.
Gay Sex, Adultery, Masturbation, Porn are "Gravely Evil": San Francisco Archbishop Clarifies Sexual Morality for School Staffs
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Mark121359
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I’m not so sure Jim. Yesterday on Catholic Answers Live, Father Mitch Pacwa got a call from a woman who said that her children were being taught among other things, that the Assumption and the Immaculate Conception were nothing more than complete myths. It was a disturbing call to hear from this mother. If doctrine is being dismissed willy-nilly, I find it hard to believe that Catholic morality would rank high with them. My question to Father Mitch would have been; Why are such people allowed to continue teaching in a Catholic School? The Assumption of Our Lady and her Immaculate Conception just myths? I wonder what they’re taught about the Eucharist? And we wonder why so many Catholics simply dismiss so many teachings of the faith. Something has gone horribly wrong here! And the damage being done to these children being taught this dribble is beyond one’s comprehension. It’s as if acid were being poured on their souls.
Peace, Mark
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Havard
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Catholic schools have come to mean “Catholic flavored” here and it has become accepted by the majority. His Excellency means to fix that, but it’s bound to ruffle feathers.
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JimG
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Wow, I’m always rather amazed to hear stories like this. If Catholic schools can’t teach Catholicism, both doctrine and morals, they are nothing more than private schools with a misleading label.
Around here, the Catholic schools seem to be pretty good. At least the kids seem to be an exception to the stories I hear about those who have attended Catholic schools and yet know nothing of their faith. I hope that the Archbishop is successfull in making schools fully Catholic.
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Prodigal_40s
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I love saying:
SALVATORE CORDILEONE
The cultural warrior and defender of the faith :knight2:
SALVATORE CORDILEONE
The cultural warrior and defender of the faith :knight2:
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Prodigal_40s
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otjm
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Well, maybe in Kansas… but this is a little bit closer to Sodom and Gomorrah…
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SWolf
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HehWell, maybe in Kansas… but this is a little bit closer to Sodom and Gomorrah…
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otjm
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Well, no guts, no glory.
What are they going to do, go on strike? OK, there is the door, and make sure you stay on the sidewalk as you walk the picket line.
Given a choice of teachers who are not willing to teach the Faith (or more honestly, who teach error) or possibly shutting down schools, which is the better option?
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Megan7
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Yes, he needs all of our PRAYERS!!! Just look at the rating of the thread, it was a 5 star thread, and has been downgraded, in a Catholic forum of all places
… What can we expect to happen in San Francisco & in the rest of the country 
It is definitely the Valley of Tears! How can a practicing Catholic think that what His Excellency is doing is wrong ??? :banghead:I cannot believe that His Excellency has to state the obvious, the TRUTH!
We need to get a hold of our weapons (the HOLY ROSARY) & use it daily!!! :knight2:
GOD BLESS this ARCHBISHOP!! And YES, this deserves a BRAVO!!!
His name means SAVIOR!
Thank you to Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone! May Our Lord Bless you & the Virgin Mary protect you from evil! And Saint Michael the Archangel watch over you!
***TOTUS TUUS MARIA!!!
+Pax***
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Tigg
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Yes, he needs all of our PRAYERS!!! Just look at the rating of the thread, it was a 5 star thread, and has been downgraded, in a Catholic forum of all places
I cannot believe that His Excellency has to state the obvious, the TRUTH!
You are absolutely correct, Megan. It is an embarrassment that a holy Archbishop, faithful to the Church cannot be supported and encouraged by Catholics.
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Prodigal_40s
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BRAVO
You are absolutely correct, Megan. It is an embarrassment that a holy Archbishop, faithful to the Church cannot be supported and encouraged by Catholics.
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Mulligan2
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Is there any language in the handbook regarding driving under the influence? Wouldn’t that reflect badly on the church as well?
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Prodigal_40s
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The people who adhere to the rules are all sinners. It’s when they betray trust that make their position untenable and then go on to modify church teaching to suit their foibles. That’s the problem. Also the Archbishop’s actions did not directly effect any one else. He admitted his guilt and was contrite.
If you want a comparative example a certain Archbishop praised a man for admitting that he was a practicing homosexual and has invited an openly Gay rights group to march in a Saints day parade.
Compare and contrast…
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Havard
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Wow, you really went there, didn’t you?
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Mulligan2
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First impressions are important, are they not?
And certain actions have much more grave consequences than others. Someone masturbating in private does no harm to anyone else. Drunk drivers often kill innocent people.
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Prodigal_40s
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Haven’t responded to my post and it’s noticeable…
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Zzyzx_Road
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Last time I was in San Francisco, the nearest church to attend Sunday Mass was St Mary’s Cathedral. So I went there and the Archbishop happened to be celebrating the Mass. Very different cathedral, takes some getting used to. Cordileone is a pretty good speaker, held my attention through the homily. He was a bit new to his position then and the homily was more about the readings than anything political, but I got the hint that he is strong in his faith and would stand up for it. Hence it is with interest that I’ve watched him speak out on marriage while in the epicenter of homosexual culture in California. So I add my bravo! to everyone else’s.
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Mulligan2
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Please understand the nature of a forum. It’s much different than a one-on-one conversation. Not every post is replied to. As a courtesy I re-read your earlier post, and it did not answer the initial question I posed. So there’s nothing that warranted a reply.
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Prodigal_40s
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Yes. It did actually. It answered your hint at hypocrisy of an individual.
What you did was to draw attention to a misdemeanor committed by Archbishop Salvatore and hinted at this hypocrisy by demanding that teachers adhere to Catholic teaching. He has already admitted that what he did was wrong and accepted a fine and was contrite about his sin. By the way his actions did not directly affect anyone although in his contrition, he did say as much as you did.
I would estimate that you didn’t want to discuss this or my comparative example of someone who was less contrite and was in fact quite adamant about his support for what the Church sees as a mortal Sin.
As always, charitable and happy to help. It’s funny, I had a very similar exchange to this one on another thread. However on that one the poster did a runner
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