Gays Far More Likely To Engage In Criminal Activities

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( Lisa N. RE: )
I do not approve their acts,or lifestyle.
I agree with the churches teaching. I also support Christs words in Matthew about people that lead children to sin.Yet the bishops contine to protect their associates that did just that.Yet many are not upset at the bishops.They rush to defend them.
Is it not strange, I am 60 years old and have never heard a homily or sermon on that part of Matthew about those that lead children to sin,strange or is it.
 
Lisa N:
Definitely a “WERE” as I have not heard of any such incidents in years. The supposed Mathew Shepherd hate crime turned out to be a drug deal gone bad. If you want to make a point, please back it up with facts.
Lisa N
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So, if you could please provide facts to back up your statement about Matthew Shepard, facts that come from a source that is not affiliated with some kind of church, that would be great. I have never heard or read anything having to do with a drug deal and his murder. But if you’ve got something, please share it with me. But please, I’d feel much more comfortable with it if it came from a reputable source. Last time I checked, the church was not the end all and be all of news sources.
 
You know there must be something happening when the New York Times praises ABC News for running “an intellectually brave episode” of the “20/20” show that has angered the homosexual lobby. That means the Times found it convincing, and so did we. In the November 27 show, “20/20” uncovered the truth about the 1998 murder of Matthew Shepard, widely depicted as a hate crime because he was a homosexual. Almost everything we were told about this murder at the time by ABC, the Times and every other major news organization was false.

We were told that this University of Wyoming student was murdered simply because he was a homosexual. The truth is that he was the victim of a robbery gone bad by two drug addicts. What’s more, Shepard was also a heavy drug user who was HIV-positive. Not only were the perpetrators of this brutal crime not “homophobes,” but one of them knew Shepherd and was allegedly bisexual. The real story of the Matthew Shepard case, as the prosecutor says on “20/20,” concerns the dangers of methamphetamine. The two killers and Shepard were big meth users.
Exploiting Matthew Shepard

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soulspeak23:
So, if you could please provide facts to back up your statement about Matthew Shepard, facts that come from a source that is not affiliated with some kind of church, that would be great. I have never heard or read anything having to do with a drug deal and his murder. But if you’ve got something, please share it with me. But please, I’d feel much more comfortable with it if it came from a reputable source. Last time I checked, the church was not the end all and be all of news sources.
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ABC News: New Details Emerge in Matthew Shepard Murder

Why the lecture on the church? You cite nothing proving your snide suggestion that information from the church is not to be trusted. Give us some examples of a Catholic news organization lying. Or a protestant one lying. You must have something to back up your charge.

I find religious news sources very reliable. Haven’t discovered a Walter Duranty, Anthony Lewis, Herbert Matthews, Harold Denny, Janet Cooke, Dan Rather or Jason Blair in them yet.
 
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soulspeak23:
So, if you could please provide facts to back up your statement about Matthew Shepard, facts that come from a source that is not affiliated with some kind of church, that would be great. I have never heard or read anything having to do with a drug deal and his murder. But if you’ve got something, please share it with me. But please, I’d feel much more comfortable with it if it came from a reputable source. Last time I checked, the church was not the end all and be all of news sources.
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ABC News: New Details Emerge in Matthew Shepard Murder

Why the lecture on the church? You cite nothing proving your snide suggestion that information from the church is not to be trusted. Give us some examples of a Catholic news organization lying. Or a protestant one lying. You must have something to back up your charge.

I find religious news sources very reliable. Haven’t discovered a Walter Duranty, Anthony Lewis, Herbert Matthews, Harold Denny, Janet Cooke, Dan Rather or Jason Blair in them yet.

One more thing, why did you need to ask for proof from a source outside the church? A 30 second search on google would have given you the links I directed you to above.

I didn’t remember ABC ran the story. But it didn’t take long to find out.

Play “prove it” is passe. Worked the first few years of the internet but no longer.
 
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soulspeak23:
So, if you could please provide facts to back up your statement about Matthew Shepard, facts that come from a source that is not affiliated with some kind of church, that would be great. I have never heard or read anything having to do with a drug deal and his murder. But if you’ve got something, please share it with me. But please, I’d feel much more comfortable with it if it came from a reputable source. Last time I checked, the church was not the end all and be all of news sources.
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ABC News: New Details Emerge in Matthew Shepard Murder

That took 30 seconds. Why the slap at reporting by religious groups?
 
Lisa N:
soulspeak23 is our latest homosexual apologist so anything that opposes open homosexuality is the enemy. I cannot believe he was duped by that ridiculous Mathew Shepherd myth. It was debunked ages ago.

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First of all, I am a female and not only a homosexual apologist, but a homosexual. I live a wonderful and happy life with my partner and have every intention of starting my own wonderful family. Second of all, you act as though its an impossibiliity that someone could have been killed for simply being gay. That there would have to be some other reason. What about Sakia Gunn? She was murdered at 15 because she refused the advances of some men making lewd comments to her and her friends by stating that she was a lesbian and not interested. Now I suppose you’re going to tell me that she must have been drunk or drugged up, but she was simply waiting for her bus to come and take her home. Now let me hear what you have to say to refute me.
 
When will a TV network produce “The Jesse Dirkhising Story”?
 
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soulspeak23:
First of all, I am a female and not only a homosexual apologist, but a homosexual. .
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I am sorry for you.
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soulspeak23:
I live a wonderful and happy life with my partner and have every intention of starting my own wonderful family.
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The Pope thinks homosexuals as parents is child abuse. I agree. Since you are presumably have a female partner, how will you breed this child? A.I.? Or will you buy one? Are you aware of the sad statistics of children raised without a father in the home? How can you do this to an innocent child?
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soulspeak23:
. Second of all, you act as though its an impossibiliity that someone could have been killed for simply being gay…
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No. You need to go beyond the knee jerk reaction. I said the Mathew Shepherd “hate crime” story was totally false and that homosexual activists did not want the story to get out that it was merely a bunch of creepy druggies bopping each other on the head over drugs. They liked Mathew as the poster boy for this supposed hate crime. Funny you never heard that the real story was not a crime against someone for being a homosexual.
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soulspeak23:
That there would have to be some other reason. What about Sakia Gunn? She was murdered at 15 because she refused the advances of some men making lewd comments to her and her friends by stating that she was a lesbian and not interested. Now I suppose you’re going to tell me that she must have been drunk or drugged up, but she was simply waiting for her bus to come and take her home. Now let me hear what you have to say to refute me.
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Can’t say I’ve ever heard the story but certainly people are killed for refusing sexual advances. Regardless of whether Ms Gunn was a homosexual or not, she had every right to refuse unwanted advances. It has nothing to do with homosexuality at all. It has to do with an abuse of power.

Lisa N
 
First of all, I am a female and not only a homosexual apologist, but a homosexual. I live a wonderful and happy life with my partner and have every intention of starting my own wonderful family.
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what you do behind closed doors is one thing. the church isn’t in the buisness of looking for gravely sinful behavior, but to start a family around your disorded lustful relationship is doing violence to children.

i couldn’t imagine anything more disgusting then having two “moms” or two “dads”. just thinking about it makes me want to throw up.

for the sake of society and children in general, i hope you keep your evil realtionship to your self.
 
oat soda:
what you do behind closed doors is one thing. the church isn’t in the buisness of looking for gravely sinful behavior, but to start a family around your disorded lustful relationship is doing violence to children.

i couldn’t imagine anything more disgusting then having two “moms” or two “dads”. just thinking about it makes me want to throw up.

for the sake of society and children in general, i hope you keep your evil realtionship to your self.
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Throw up all you’d like. I will have my family just the same. With, yes, i’ll say it, “two moms!” And I can give you an example far more disgusting than that: the raping of children by Priests. What does the Bible say about that?
And I don’t understand why the vast majority of you keep insisting that the only aspect of a homosexual relationship is sex. My “lustful relationship” is filled with love and caring for one another. Sex just happens to be a part of it, as i’m sure is the case in all of your homes. I hope, for your sake, that there’s more to your relationships besides sex.
 
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soulspeak23:
Throw up all you’d like. I will have my family just the same. With, yes, i’ll say it, “two moms!” And I can give you an example far more disgusting than that: the raping of children by Priests. What does the Bible say about that?
And I don’t understand why the vast majority of you keep insisting that the only aspect of a homosexual relationship is sex. My “lustful relationship” is filled with love and caring for one another. Sex just happens to be a part of it, as i’m sure is the case in all of your homes. I hope, for your sake, that there’s more to your relationships besides sex.
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Did I miss something, did anyone here condone what those priest did? Also, a lot of those crimes where comparable to statutory rape envolving a homosexual realtionship. We know what the bible says about rape, and child abuse. We also know what the Catholic Catechisim says about it too. The Catholic Church does not condone it. You are right it is disgusting. It is disgusting when any body hurts a child like that, a doctor, police officer, a heterosexual person, or a homosexual person. I am here to tell you it is not a problem in the Catholic Church, it is a problem in the world.

I don’t have to agree with homosexuality, just like I don’t have to agree with adultry. I kind of look at them on the same level.
 
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soulspeak23:
And I don’t understand why the vast majority of you keep insisting that the only aspect of a homosexual relationship is sex. My “lustful relationship” is filled with love and caring for one another. Sex just happens to be a part of it,
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Those with SSA want to minimize “sex” because it helps make their argument more legitimate in their minds. Sex is crucial to marriage, to regeneration of the species and is central in God’s plan. To abuse it is to reject God’s will.
 
Lisa N:
I am sorry for you.

The Pope thinks homosexuals as parents is child abuse. I agree. Since you are presumably have a female partner, how will you breed this child? A.I.? Or will you buy one? Are you aware of the sad statistics of children raised without a father in the home? How can you do this to an innocent child?

No. You need to go beyond the knee jerk reaction. I said the Mathew Shepherd “hate crime” story was totally false and that homosexual activists did not want the story to get out that it was merely a bunch of creepy druggies bopping each other on the head over drugs. They liked Mathew as the poster boy for this supposed hate crime. Funny you never heard that the real story was not a crime against someone for being a homosexual.

Can’t say I’ve ever heard the story but certainly people are killed for refusing sexual advances. Regardless of whether Ms Gunn was a homosexual or not, she had every right to refuse unwanted advances. It has nothing to do with homosexuality at all. It has to do with an abuse of power.

Lisa N
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Why would a practicing lesbian enroll on a traditional Catholic website to proclaim her lifestyle?
 
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soulspeak23:
Throw up all you’d like. I will have my family just the same. With, yes, i’ll say it, “two moms!” And I can give you an example far more disgusting than that: the raping of children by Priests. What does the Bible say about that?
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I’m sorry, but that sounds so selfish to me.
Someone else’s sin doesn’t condone you committing your own. I can think of lots of horrible sins that people have committed, but that doesn’t mean that my sins are somehow less because of that. And no one here thinks that the priest sex scandal was not sinful. It was. We were all sick about it. But that has nothing to do with you being an active homosexual and trying to force your chosen “lifestyle” on innocent children. I happen to have a friend who did this. She decided she was a lesbian, her and her girlfriend moved in together, and then she had a baby by IVF. (By the way, her attitude was very similar to the one you have now.) So, that’s how I ended up attending a very uncomfortable baby shower for “2 moms”. Well, that lasted about 1 year. Now she is, I am happy to say, on her way out of that “lifestyle”. She is now seeing a man, and has no desire to go back to that way of life. I pray that you, too, will discover the realities of what you are choosing to do. That path leads to pain and darkness. And until you have the courage to look at it from a distance, you may not be able to see it clearly. We are all praying for you.
 
Lisa N:
The Pope thinks homosexuals as parents is child abuse. I agree. Since you are presumably have a female partner, how will you breed this child? A.I.? Or will you buy one? Are you aware of the sad statistics of children raised without a father in the home? How can you do this to an innocent child?
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I am personally acquainted with two female homosexual couples who have adopted children. In the one case, one of the women’s brothers stands “in loco patris,” and in the other, it’s the father of one of the women, who is a typical granddad to the child.

I agree that children are hurt if raised without a “father” in the home, but that “father” need not be the biological father.
 
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Richardols:
I am personally acquainted with two female homosexual couples who have adopted children. In the one case, one of the women’s brothers stands “in loco patris,” and in the other, it’s the father of one of the women, who is a typical granddad to the child.

I agree that children are hurt if raised without a “father” in the home, but that “father” need not be the biological father.
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Geez Richard, I generally disagree with you but I rarely see you write something so outrageous. You cannot replace a FATHER with a male who agrees to stand ‘in loco patris’ or a grandfather. Don’t you think many of the single/divorced/widowed women who struggle to raise their children have brothers and fathers and friends who try to fill the shoes of a father? It’s better than nothing I am sure but since when do we subject innocent children DELIBERATELY to ‘better than nothing.’ The statistics are clear. Children raised without a father in the home exhibit substantially more drug addiction, criminal activity, drop out rates, unwed motherhood etc. (no it doesn’t have to be biological but it should be a loving, caring male who is consistently present and focused on that child)

I find your attempt to justify selfish people who want a child subjecting them to a perverted lifestyle, no father (or no mother) and a very confused upbringing absolutely shocking. Say it isn’t so Richardols.

Lisa N
 
Lisa N:
I find your attempt to justify selfish people who want a child subjecting them to a perverted lifestyle, no father (or no mother) and a very confused upbringing absolutely shocking.
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Lisa, I don’t doubt the statistics that you’ve quoted nor the damage that might be caused by having homosexual “parents.” I was only recounting my personal knowledge of two couples. I don’t know any others, and for all I know every other couple other than the two I’m personally acquainted with are total perverts vis-a-vis the children’s upbringing.

But, mea culpa. I’ve often chided some right-wingers for substituting their personal experience for broadbased statistics, and it looks as though I’ve done the same. I should have noted that two good couples don’t equate to all couples being good.
 
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Richardols:
Lisa, I don’t doubt the statistics that you’ve quoted nor the damage that might be caused by having homosexual “parents.” I was only recounting my personal knowledge of two couples. I don’t know any others, and for all I know every other couple other than the two I’m personally acquainted with are total perverts vis-a-vis the children’s upbringing.

But, mea culpa. I’ve often chided some right-wingers for substituting their personal experience for broadbased statistics, and it looks as though I’ve done the same. I should have noted that two good couples don’t equate to all couples being good.
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I’d have to point out that there is no way a same sex couple raising a child could be considered ‘good’. Its simply a form of child abuse. It can only cause harm to the child.
 
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