Gays May Be Prosecuted at 2014 Olympics

[Gospel_of_Chaos]

Such a shame that non-christians just see this as “anti progress” and that gay rights are “an advancement in human rights”. Let’s not forget to pray for those that suffer with feelings towards the same gender.

 

[SMGS127]

Such a shame that non-christians just see this as “anti progress” and that gay rights are “an advancement in human rights”. Let’s not forget to pray for those that suffer with feelings towards the same gender.

Depends on what you view “gay rights” as. I think of gay rights as any human right. ENDA, the Housing N-DA, the Matthew Shepard bill, etc. and certainly those are advancements in civil rights. And I certainly view this Russian bill as degrading to the dignity of the human person. I think there is a very strong Christian case against your post.

Now if you define SS’M’ as gay rights, then that’s a whole different story.

 

[SMGS127]

Perhaps you can explain the number of gay people who claim they were born that way or say ‘God made me like this.’

Peace,
Ed

Absolutely. They usually have a good education in the need for faith in God, but have parents who, one direction or the other, don’t provide a good education on homosexual conduct. So they think “well God made me, and why would he make something evil?” In the case of harsh parents, making the false connection between SSAs and “evil.” Alternatively, their parents may have given them the whole hippie education of “God loves everyone no matter what, so you can do whatever you want!,” or the “Christ already saved us, so have fun!”

Edit: as to “born that way,” gays probably ARE born that way. The question isn’t whether God allowed original sin to corrupt gays in that way, but why. I personally see it as a test of faith for everyone, not just the gay kid.

 

[LisaA]

Good evening Slavonic,
You stated in you’re post:

“It’s not a lifestyle, but a life like anyone else’s.”

It’s a life void of right reason. A life lived contrary to Natural Law, and a conscience willfully depraved in order to justify evil. All under the guise of “freedom.” True freedom has been replaced with license. Almost everywhere, salvation is being equated with “self-growth” or feelings of" O.K.-ness." They have allowed themselves to lapse into a subjectivist frame of mind believing that no idea or action is of any more value than any other idea or action. If you get into a discussion with him/her, you quickly find that he/she has no idea of higher or lower, better or worse. He/she is set on the the “equality” and “acceptance” of all ideas and will give equal weight to any and all ideas.
. We especially do them violence when we reinforce these unreasonable ideas and action’s, because as St. Albert The Great states: for those who become addicted to them are seldom freed from that vice; they are as contagious as disease, passing quickly from one person to another." We must not become enablers.

It used to be everyone was entitled to their own opinion (no matter how foolish), but not their own facts. But that’s not the case anymore. Facts matter not at all. Truth is what I say is right, and {nothing} anyone else says could possibly be true. It’s not only that I feel it to be true but that I FEEL it to be true. There’s not only an emotional quality, but there’s a selfish quality. Once upon a time, words had weight. Now they float. In the past, people understood equality as something basic that we all share before God and the law. Now it means that almost everyone feels anointed to have his or her views taken seriously, no matter how unfettered by fact, logic, civility, or common sense. Unfortunately, experience teaches the opposite. Some ideas are bad. Some opinions are foolish. Some feelings are vindictive. And some people lie.

. Dishonest dialogue with its misuse of words leads to dangerous behavior and bad laws. When the meaning of a word is subverted, it acts like a virus. It infects other words and ideas. It spreads the habit of distorting the Truth, to serve an agenda and change cultures. And the Culture of Death which includes sodomy are well versed in these tactics. In a different age, we called this lying.

Anyone who pays attention understands they never give dialogue on solid ground; they know too well that in a discussion of principles and morals they will meet irretrievable defeat. They prefer tactics of recrimination and, under the sting of a just flagellation, whiningly accusing you of lack of charity.

Continued:

Tarpien amazing post and wanted to emphasize above bolded phrases. This is symptomatic of the Left and its feelings focused “logic” (or lack thereof). All ideas, all religions, all government structures are not equal in promoting the good. Were someone to have claimed that fifty years hence men would be bragging about engaging in same sex relationships (or any sexual activity made public) that special rights would be granted to allow them to pretend that two men or two women are the equivalent of a man and woman in marriage, they would have been laughed off the stage. It’s so “Brave New World” that it’s almost frightening. Up is down, down is up, genders do not matter. Make no mistake that is the real agenda, the complete dismissing of the inherent differences between men and women. First we had “women’s lib,” followed by free sex which led to free abortions and contraception. After all women should be free to sleep around just as men have always claimed was their natural state of being. Since gender doesn’t matter, same sex relationships could be promoted as equivalent to man/woman marriage. Then it wasn’t actually important who or what you were having sex with–men, women, both, multiples and as we are seeing now the attempt to normalize sexual relations with CHILDREN under the guise that that children’s “rights” as sexual beings should be indulged.

Facts are not allowed to intrude. The biological differences can be erased with clothing, hairstyles and if that fails one can attempt sex change protocols, never mind that you can’t change an X chromosome into a Y or vice versa. But who’s counting when “I gotta be me” and if “me” is a man today, it’s equally valid. Further everyone else must make way for my sexual proclivities no matter how base and degrading.

But back to facts, men and women are different. Two men or two women can stimulate each other but they cannot create life nor are their relationships complimentary and thus allowing the best qualities of each to be used for their highest purpose. Futher as you noted, those who go down the road of conditioning, habit and eventually addiction, tend to pull others down with them. That the Russians are attempting to prevent predatory adults from dragging confused children and teens into the muck is to be admired, even if we are skeptical of their past over reaching when it comes to State power. Too bad that we dont’ take a page or two from this book to prevent our own youth from being propagandized and led down a path of destruction (and in this I also refer to premarital heterosexual relations, promiscuity, pregnancy, contraceptive mentality, abortion, drugs, and hedonistic lifestyles). The Lavendar Mafia has the bully pulpit at this point in time but they will soon make way for the “Minor Oriented” or “Plural Oriented” adult looking to ratchet up his or her selfish desires.

Lisa

 

[LisaA]

Absolutely. They usually have a good education in the need for faith in God, but have parents who, one direction or the other, don’t provide a good education on homosexual conduct. So they think “well God made me, and why would he make something evil?” In the case of harsh parents, making the false connection between SSAs and “evil.” Alternatively, their parents may have given them the whole hippie education of “God loves everyone no matter what, so you can do whatever you want!,” or the “Christ already saved us, so have fun!”

Edit: as to “born that way,” gays probably ARE born that way. The question isn’t whether God allowed original sin to corrupt gays in that way, but why. I personally see it as a test of faith for everyone, not just the gay kid.

That those with SSA claim they were “born that way” doesn’t make it so. We have, in so many ways, attempted to wrest self control from our vocabulary. We were 'born" to be alcoholics or violent or to want sex with children…don’t think I’m making this up, it’s become the norm. Listen to Ariel Castro try to excuse holding three girls as sexual slaves for a decade…“I’m not a monster, I’m sick…” This promoted by his attorney who said after talking with Castro for a few hours he FELT (note the reference to feelings not facts) that Castro really wasn’t such a bad guy after all…just a victim of his addictions.

Despite much effort to promote the genetic or born that way component of sexual orientation, the reality is that nothing indicates such and many if not most who have SSA admit that they have also had opposite sex relationships either in the past or simultaneously with their same sex relationships. If you haven’t done so, please read this website’s discussion about same sex attraction. We don’t know what “causes” this but we do know the human brain is VERY VERY easily conditioned. Further once people go down a particular road of sexual stimulation it literally burns a pathway in their brain making it harder and harder to become sexually satisfied without the particular stimulant. As this website’s discussion notes, no one claims he was born with a fetish or an addiction to porn or desire for sexual relationships with children. How in the world can homosexuals claim that despite much evidence to the contrary, they were hardwired for ONLY same sex attraction?

Thus shall I say indulging, feeding the beast, and promoting experimentation with any kind of sexual activity is a clear road to making this a more fixed characteristic. I really sense you believe that you are doing a service by “mentoring” children with same sex attraction but in reality I wonder if you are not only viiolating the parent’s rights and role but also inadvertently promoting this behavior? Young people are always vying for attention. If they don’t get it from their parents, they look outside; to their peers, to mentors, to teachers, to coaches, to youth leaders. If they get MORE attention by certain behaviors, it rewards them and the circle continues. My opinion is that questions regarding sexual behavior are for the family, not for even the most well meaning “friend” to engage in. Encouraging other people’s children to confide in you versus their parents is not necessarily doing either a good service. I know you mean well but I wonder about the actual results.

Lisa

 

[Slavonic]

Good evening Slavonic,
You stated in you’re post:

“It’s not a lifestyle, but a life like anyone else’s.”

I noted in an earlier post how The Founders, and in particular how Noah Webster intentionally altered the language to deceive, and change perception to break away from the truth. George Orwell also recognized the decay of language, and how it’s intentionally used to obscure or defend the indefensible. Words have power because they have meaning. Words shape our thinking, which shapes our actions. Dishonest dialogue with its misuse of words leads to dangerous behavior and bad laws. When the meaning of a word is subverted, it acts like a virus. It infects other words and ideas. It spreads the habit of distorting the Truth, to serve an agenda and change cultures. And the Culture of Death which includes sodomy are well versed in these tactics. In a different age, we called this lying.
right reason. They have only its shadow.

Continued:

The very term ‘homosexual lifestyle’ was coined by and is still espoused by anti-gay activists. If you want to talk about manipulation of language, start there. Given your previous stance, however, you are in no position to credibly defend it.

 

[holyrood]

gays probably ARE born that way.

I’ve known several guys since we were in high school and college and they were very interested in girls then. These were very good friends. They were really into these girls, very eager to get together with them.

I read pretty regularly on a forum where it’s amazing how many women are ‘realizing’ they’re gay in their 30s and 40s.

Sorry, but some people are being influenced by the constant talk and same sex porn available. Some are getting curious and we are quite capable of shaping our desires, the more we dwell on and think about things, the more they’re portrayed as wild, exciting, titillating.

I have also known men who ‘knew’ they were gay since they were three or younger. This is not evidence they were ‘born that way,’ it’s evidence that something happened at a very young age that should not have, as the average three year old as very little concept of attraction in that sense at all, and should certainly not be thinking about sex with anyone. If they are, it’s the result of abuse.

Over and over, I have seen statistics that many people have abuse in their background.

This is what makes the support of this lifestyle even sadder. These are often people already suffering from abuse and the world is encouraging them to continue in a lifestyle that frequently brings them even more pain, loss, rejection (and I mean from the many people who move in and out of their lives using them for sex and then leaving them), and diseases and even death.

No compassionate person would encourage this, any more than we encourage smoking or obesity.

 

[SMGS127]

I’ve known several guys since we were in high school and college and they were very interested in girls then. These were very good friends. They were really into these girls, very eager to get together with them.

I read pretty regularly on a forum where it’s amazing how many women are ‘realizing’ they’re gay in their 30s and 40s.

Sorry, but some people are being influenced by the constant talk and same sex porn available. Some are getting curious and we are quite capable of shaping our desires, the more we dwell on and think about things, the more they’re portrayed as wild, exciting, titillating.

I have also known men who ‘knew’ they were gay since they were three or younger. This is not evidence they were ‘born that way,’ it’s evidence that something happened at a very young age that should not have, as the average three year old as very little concept of attraction in that sense at all, and should certainly not be thinking about sex with anyone. If they are, it’s the result of abuse.

Over and over, I have seen statistics that many people have abuse in their background.

This is what makes the support of this lifestyle even sadder. These are often people already suffering from abuse and the world is encouraging them to continue in a lifestyle that frequently brings them even more pain, loss, rejection (and I mean from the many people who move in and out of their lives using them for sex and then leaving them), and diseases and even death.

No compassionate person would encourage this, any more than we encourage smoking or obesity.

This post is in reply to both you and Lisa. Unfortunately, my phone isn’t very well-equipped to quote multiple people or do a lot of forum things.

To you holyrood: you are right in that the sexualization of our culture is aiding in the discovery of SSAs. This is not evidence against the biological nature of them, but rather the fact that women have never been encouraged to enter into relationships for sexual pleasure until recently. It can be argued pretty easily that encouraging anyone, male or female, to do so is immoral, but it does explain why women are exploring more and realizing that, when they’re dating for raw passion instead of “because every other girl dates guys,” some realize they’re gay so late.

As to men, I think they mean to extrapolate kindergarten behavior to orientation. I’ve heard lesbians talk about chasing girls as kids. They don’t mean that they were sexually burning for other girls when they were 5 when they say it.

Finally. I have known many gay people with no abuse in their background, especially those with laissez faire parents. Those statistics tend to come from right-wing sources.

To Lisa: I’ve dated more men than women (5-3). Sometimes it’s about hiding your SSAs, sometimes it’s about trying to explore your sexuality fully the same way a straight girl does with women. Sometimes it’s about trying to fit in with society. I would still call myself lesbian by orientation.

Also, I have absolutely no problem violating the parents “rights and roles” when a 16 year-old is on the precipice of falling to the community. If the parents STILL won’t do their jobs by that point, the kid is old enough to be able to think for themselves but not old enough to avoid falling into the “only one group cares about you” trap.

 

[LisaA]

This post is in reply to both you and Lisa. Unfortunately, my phone isn’t very well-equipped to quote multiple people or do a lot of forum things.

To you holyrood: you are right in that the sexualization of our culture is aiding in the discovery of SSAs. This is not evidence against the biological nature of them, but rather the fact that women have never been encouraged to enter into relationships for sexual pleasure until recently. It can be argued pretty easily that encouraging anyone, male or female, to do so is immoral, but it does explain why women are exploring more and realizing that, when they’re dating for raw passion instead of “because every other girl dates guys,” some realize they’re gay so late.

As to men, I think they mean to extrapolate kindergarten behavior to orientation. I’ve heard lesbians talk about chasing girls as kids. They don’t mean that they were sexually burning for other girls when they were 5 when they say it.

Finally. I have known many gay people with no abuse in their background, especially those with laissez faire parents. Those statistics tend to come from right-wing sources.

To Lisa: I’ve dated more men than women (5-3). Sometimes it’s about hiding your SSAs, sometimes it’s about trying to explore your sexuality fully the same way a straight girl does with women. Sometimes it’s about trying to fit in with society. I would still call myself lesbian by orientation.

Also, I have absolutely no problem violating the parents “rights and roles” when a 16 year-old is on the precipice of falling to the community. If the parents STILL won’t do their jobs by that point, the kid is old enough to be able to think for themselves but not old enough to avoid falling into the “only one group cares about you” trap.

You are an interesting person SMGS because sometimes you sound very reasonable and rational about SSA but still believe you have the obligation if not the right to judge whether or not parents are “doing their job.” I truly have an issue with this attitude because we can’t all decide just because someone’s parents aren’t doing what we believe is appropriate or answering questions “correctly” that we should step in.

Now if you are a trained psychotherapist who was hired to counsel youth, I am supportive of this role. But it doesn’t sound as if you have much more than your own experience to offer. This may be helpful, it may not. But in fact if you are interfering with parental authority I truly suggest you rethink this plan, not matter how well intentioned.

That being said, I am in full agreement with your comments about the thoughts and actions of children regarding “attraction” to the same sex. Until puberty, children NATURALLY gravitate toward the same sex. They have close friendships, intimate conversations and not infrequently claim they will never marry but when grown will share house with their best friend. This does not mean a current or future sexual nature. I certainly had dear dear friends with whom I was very close and not the slightest interest in boys (in fact they frightened me) until I was about 13. At that point I was only slightly interested and the same for most of my friends. So those who claim they always knew they had SSA are probably remembering such relationships, totally out of context.

As to women being “encouraged to enter relationships for sexual pleasure” quite honestly that was what the 60s were all about and I suspect you were not even born then. This has been a drumbeat of the Left, of the Feminists, of the secularists for half a decade. This is not new. What IS new is the mainstreaming of non-traditional sexual relationships, IMO started with no fault divorce, contraception/abortion and shacking up.

Have any of those societal changes been positive for society or for those involved? I suggest no. Further encouraging these behaviors, whether it’s hooking up, aborting your children or shacking up, is so self destructive for WOMEN primarily that it’s the ultimate in irony that this was instigated by the feminists who wanted women to be free…

Well we’re free all right…how’s that workin out?

Back to the thread though, your claim parents are not doing their job in discussing SSA and other sexual issues is yet another manifestation in the breakdown of traditions that are the glue that holds family AND society together. We don’t need to encourage this.

Lisa

 

[SMGS127]

You are an interesting person SMGS because sometimes you sound very reasonable and rational about SSA but still believe you have the obligation if not the right to judge whether or not parents are “doing their job.” I truly have an issue with this attitude because we can’t all decide just because someone’s parents aren’t doing what we believe is appropriate or answering questions “correctly” that we should step in.

Now if you are a trained psychotherapist who was hired to counsel youth, I am supportive of this role. But it doesn’t sound as if you have much more than your own experience to offer. This may be helpful, it may not. But in fact if you are interfering with parental authority I truly suggest you rethink this plan, not matter how well intentioned.

That being said, I am in full agreement with your comments about the thoughts and actions of children regarding “attraction” to the same sex. Until puberty, children NATURALLY gravitate toward the same sex. They have close friendships, intimate conversations and not infrequently claim they will never marry but when grown will share house with their best friend. This does not mean a current or future sexual nature. I certainly had dear dear friends with whom I was very close and not the slightest interest in boys (in fact they frightened me) until I was about 13. At that point I was only slightly interested and the same for most of my friends. So those who claim they always knew they had SSA are probably remembering such relationships, totally out of context.

As to women being “encouraged to enter relationships for sexual pleasure” quite honestly that was what the 60s were all about and I suspect you were not even born then. This has been a drumbeat of the Left, of the Feminists, of the secularists for half a decade. This is not new. What IS new is the mainstreaming of non-traditional sexual relationships, IMO started with no fault divorce, contraception/abortion and shacking up.

Have any of those societal changes been positive for society or for those involved? I suggest no. Further encouraging these behaviors, whether it’s hooking up, aborting your children or shacking up, is so self destructive for WOMEN primarily that it’s the ultimate in irony that this was instigated by the feminists who wanted women to be free…

Well we’re free all right…how’s that workin out?

Back to the thread though, your claim parents are not doing their job in discussing SSA and other sexual issues is yet another manifestation in the breakdown of traditions that are the glue that holds family AND society together. We don’t need to encourage this.

Lisa

Well to be fair, I mostly work with college kids. I only talk to high school students if approached by them. However, if they have the attitude that they can’t talk to their parents and come to me as their first line, sending them back to their parents will only make them seek out someone in the community.

Holyrood was specifically talking about women in their 30s and 40s. These women grew up in the height of the Reagan “Moral Majority” era. So they would actually have avoided the sexual revolution to a degree.

I have to go to a doctors appointment though, but I hope I cleared up some things.

 

[LisaA]

Well to be fair, I mostly work with college kids. I only talk to high school students if approached by them. However, if they have the attitude that they can’t talk to their parents and come to me as their first line, sending them back to their parents will only make them seek out someone in the community.

Holyrood was specifically talking about women in their 30s and 40s. These women grew up in the height of the Reagan “Moral Majority” era. So they would actually have avoided the sexual revolution to a degree.

I have to go to a doctors appointment though, but I hope I cleared up some things.

So this is your profession? I agree there is a huge difference between speaking to college students and primary school children.

As to your belief that the Reagan Era was a day of prudish behavior on the part of women…oh my heavens absolutely not. The Sexual Revolution PREDATED the Reagan Era which I still consider an island of class and decorum in comparison to the over sexualization of our culture thanks to Bill Clinton, Monica and the meaning of is, is.

However between women’s lib and the Pill and Roe, women were free of both fear of pregnancy and the loss of traditional mores. This occurred in the 60s and early 70s. The “hook up” culture is a bit newer as even in my lost youth, most women didn’t sleep around. They may have been engaged in premarital sex as has happened long before the sexual revolution. But it was in the context of a steady and monogamous relationship.

FWIW if you work with college students you have likely seen the emotional carnage and physical damage of this hook up behavior. It goes against our nature in so many ways and is sadly a misguided and self destructive lifestyle. This was preceded by the hookup culture seen previously mostly in the gay party scene and bathhouses which resulted in the AIDS epidemic.

You know like the commercial says, it’s not nice to fool mother nature or as we call it, Natural Law.

Lisa

 

[edwest2]

You are an interesting person SMGS because sometimes you sound very reasonable and rational about SSA but still believe you have the obligation if not the right to judge whether or not parents are “doing their job.” I truly have an issue with this attitude because we can’t all decide just because someone’s parents aren’t doing what we believe is appropriate or answering questions “correctly” that we should step in.

Now if you are a trained psychotherapist who was hired to counsel youth, I am supportive of this role. But it doesn’t sound as if you have much more than your own experience to offer. This may be helpful, it may not. But in fact if you are interfering with parental authority I truly suggest you rethink this plan, not matter how well intentioned.

That being said, I am in full agreement with your comments about the thoughts and actions of children regarding “attraction” to the same sex. Until puberty, children NATURALLY gravitate toward the same sex. They have close friendships, intimate conversations and not infrequently claim they will never marry but when grown will share house with their best friend. This does not mean a current or future sexual nature. I certainly had dear dear friends with whom I was very close and not the slightest interest in boys (in fact they frightened me) until I was about 13. At that point I was only slightly interested and the same for most of my friends. So those who claim they always knew they had SSA are probably remembering such relationships, totally out of context.

As to women being “encouraged to enter relationships for sexual pleasure” quite honestly that was what the 60s were all about and I suspect you were not even born then. This has been a drumbeat of the Left, of the Feminists, of the secularists for half a decade. This is not new. What IS new is the mainstreaming of non-traditional sexual relationships, IMO started with no fault divorce, contraception/abortion and shacking up.

Have any of those societal changes been positive for society or for those involved? I suggest no. Further encouraging these behaviors, whether it’s hooking up, aborting your children or shacking up, is so self destructive for WOMEN primarily that it’s the ultimate in irony that this was instigated by the feminists who wanted women to be free…

Well we’re free all right…how’s that workin out?

Back to the thread though, your claim parents are not doing their job in discussing SSA and other sexual issues is yet another manifestation in the breakdown of traditions that are the glue that holds family AND society together. We don’t need to encourage this.

Lisa

Well said, Lisa. I was there to watch the preachers of “freedom” at work. “Don’t trust anyone over 30!” Smoke dope! Porn is great. HAVE SEX WITH ANYBODY. LISTEN TO US. And if parents or friends questioned those who were cohabitating without benefit of a useless “piece of paper,” we got, “Leave us alone! We’re grown adults! We’ll do what we want!!!” So, instead of preserving a society that functioned well, for the most part, we got, “We’ll burn this country down if we have to!” And profanity - love it. Self-control? Who needs it? Gay or straight. We need to repeat the truth daily to expose the lies and deceptions being spread among the people. Slavery to the flesh. That’s not working out for anybody.

Peace,
Ed

 

[Tarpeian]

So this is your profession? I agree there is a huge difference between speaking to college students and primary school children.

As to your belief that the Reagan Era was a day of prudish behavior on the part of women…oh my heavens absolutely not. The Sexual Revolution PREDATED the Reagan Era which I still consider an island of class and decorum in comparison to the over sexualization of our culture thanks to Bill Clinton, Monica and the meaning of is, is.

However between women’s lib and the Pill and Roe, women were free of both fear of pregnancy and the loss of traditional mores. This occurred in the 60s and early 70s. The “hook up” culture is a bit newer as even in my lost youth, most women didn’t sleep around. They may have been engaged in premarital sex as has happened long before the sexual revolution. But it was in the context of a steady and monogamous relationship.

FWIW if you work with college students you have likely seen the emotional carnage and physical damage of this hook up behavior. It goes against our nature in so many ways and is sadly a misguided and self destructive lifestyle. This was preceded by the hookup culture seen previously mostly in the gay party scene and bathhouses which resulted in the AIDS epidemic.

You know like the commercial says, it’s not nice to fool mother nature or as we call it, Natural Law.

Lisa

Lisa

Great post as always.

Pax Christi,
Tarpeian

 

[Tarpeian]

The very term ‘homosexual lifestyle’ was coined by and is still espoused by anti-gay activists. If you want to talk about manipulation of language, start there. Given your previous stance, however, you are in no position to credibly defend it.

My stance or more to the point my position, is that of The Holy Roman Catholic Church. My credibility is over 2000 years of Church teaching (my personal errors aside). When you have the time could you please provide me with primary sources to back up this claim?

aglp.org/gap/1_history/

Did you mean pro or anti?

Pax Christi,
Tarpeian

 

[Mulligan2]

The more I reflect on this topic, the more I believe that Russia will want to make their best possible impression on the world stage, and it is highly unlikely they will persecute/prosecute any gay people during the period of the Olympics. With public opinion having shifted so much over the past few years, clearly Russia doesn’t want to be on the wrong side of history. Seriously, do you really think Russia wants the 2014 Olympics to be universally remembered as the Olympics where the host country badly mistreated a minority group?

 

[xc600]

I’ve known several guys since we were in high school and college and they were very interested in girls then. These were very good friends. They were really into these girls, very eager to get together with them.

I read pretty regularly on a forum where it’s amazing how many women are ‘realizing’ they’re gay in their 30s and 40s.

Sorry, but some people are being influenced by the constant talk and same sex porn available. Some are getting curious and we are quite capable of shaping our desires, the more we dwell on and think about things, the more they’re portrayed as wild, exciting, titillating.

I have also known men who ‘knew’ they were gay since they were three or younger. This is not evidence they were ‘born that way,’ it’s evidence that something happened at a very young age that should not have, as the average three year old as very little concept of attraction in that sense at all, and should certainly not be thinking about sex with anyone. If they are, it’s the result of abuse.

Over and over, I have seen statistics that many people have abuse in their background.

This is what makes the support of this lifestyle even sadder. These are often people already suffering from abuse and the world is encouraging them to continue in a lifestyle that frequently brings them even more pain, loss, rejection (and I mean from the many people who move in and out of their lives using them for sex and then leaving them), and diseases and even death.

No compassionate person would encourage this, any more than we encourage smoking or obesity.

Well try this… my stepson has been gay ever since I’ve know him, back to the age of 3. But perhaps that traumatic event you’re looking for is when his christian father would beat his mother. So he was either born that way or became that way at the hands of a christian. How ironic.

 

[Trigonometric]

Well try this… my stepson has been gay ever since I’ve know him, back to the age of 3.

Can I ask how you tell someone is homosexual at 3 years old?

But perhaps that traumatic event you’re looking for is when his christian father would beat his mother.

That man was obviously out of line with Christian principles. My condolences to the family for what happened.

With public opinion having shifted so much over the past few years, clearly Russia doesn’t want to be on the wrong side of history.

Do you really think the Russians, or Putin in particular, care much what western Europe and the more left-wing areas of America think during a small period of time? I doubt it.

 

[LisaA]

Well try this… my stepson has been gay ever since I’ve know him, back to the age of 3. But perhaps that traumatic event you’re looking for is when his christian father would beat his mother. So he was either born that way or became that way at the hands of a christian. How ironic.

A child at age three does not have sexual desire for either sex although is far more likely to be attracted to other boys for play and companionship than girls. Most children, pre puberty are almost exclusively in friendships with same sex companions. They have no context to have sexual feelings.

If his father beat his mother, he was not a Christian.

I hope you find the experience on CAF enlightening. It sounds like you do not have a particularly accurate or positive view of Christianity.

Lisa

 

[aemcpa]

Anyone who makes or defends the claim that 3-year-olds have a sexual orientation or preference of any kind is profoundly perverted in mind and spirit and is a victim of Satan’s culture of death.

 

[Lochias]

Anyone who makes or defends the claim that 3-year-olds have a sexual orientation or preference of any kind is profoundly perverted in mind and spirit and is a victim of Satan’s culture of death.

Agreed. Nothing gets under my skin quite so quickly as the act of using very young children as pawns for political agendas. Let’s get real, here.