Gays reject Catholic church's attempt to 'cure' them

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Gay and lesbian Roman Catholics who contact the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis for spiritual guidance can find themselves directed toward a 12-step program aimed at changing their behavior. Australian-born Michael Bayly, who is the executive coordinator of a gay-Catholic committee, has organized a protest forum. Bayly, who is a member of St. Stephens Catholic Community, believes the Catholic Church needs to be “more accepting of diversity”

**Gay and lesbian Roman Catholics are protesting a therapy aimed at helping them become celibate. The programs are provoking national – and even international – protests from critics.
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Gay and lesbian Roman Catholics who contact the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis for spiritual guidance can find themselves directed toward programs aimed at helping them become celibate.
Called reparative therapy, the programs are provoking national – and even international – protests from critics who say they are ineffective at best and, in some cases, harmful.
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An article this past august from the Wall Street Journal also covered this. Highlights here;

payingattentiontothesky.com/2009/08/18/faith-and-sexual-identity/

Gays who follow lock step their political agenda can protest all they want but this is a movement that has emerged from therapists and their patients. Their support of Church teaching is most encouraging and it comes from their hearts.

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This is pure bunkum. The “therapy” is to help live by the virtue of chastity. It is not some attempt to make “gays” into straights," which is another matter.

If sexually promiscuous and unchaste heterosexuals are urged to chastity, and aided towards achieving it, well, why not homosexuals? Because the activists among them claim, without moral basis, that they should be governed by different rules.

This is Minneapolis, where the Catholic stables are receiving a much needed cleaning. We can expect some howls.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
“Cure them” or “help them become celibate?” Which is it? I’m confused. :confused:
 
As a "straight"man(old fashioned heterosexual),I have been celibate for the past 14 years subsequent to my marriage exploding in my face.I have no right to sex outside of the Sacrament of marriage.It is difficult but a daily rosary and the prayers of St Maria Goretti have helped in an extraordinary fashion to allow me to remain chaste as befits my station in life.No one ever died from not having sex.We have to pick up our crosses and follow Him.
 
“The programs, called Courage (AA) and Encourage (Al-Anon), are intended to help gays remain chaste.”
This is critically important to understand. These programs are not out to “cure” gays and lesbians. They are spiritual, not therapeutic in their focus. I mentioned that I knew men who were active in the gay lifestyle who are now married fathers, and happily and successfully so. That can happen, but we must remember that Christ’s call is to the virtue of chastity.

Sinners against chastity, homosexual and heterosexual, who bring this part of their lives under Christ and come to manifest this virtue, have won a tremendous spiritual victory, whether they remain single or eventually marry. It would be wrong to somehow assume that “success” means more than embracing and manifesting the virtue that had been sinned against.

Representing these programs as cure attempts is wrong and calumnious, and is a distortion of the truth by unscrupulous activists.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
As people have pointed out, the original article contains a grievous lie.

It says that these programs are examples of “reparative therapy,” which is a lie that these scoundrels ought to be held accountable for. Reparative therapy refers to treatment which attempts to make a gay person straight, to literally change their sexual orientation. Reparative therapy is ineffective, psychologically damaging, and much of the time morally atrocious (most reparative therapies have been secular, and included things like forcing gay people to watch heterosexual pornography).

The programs to which these articles refer - as many have pointed out - are supposed to help gay people live chastely. There is a huge difference between “I will help you live chastely” and “I will make it so that you find members of the opposite sex attractive instead of members of the same sex.”

As Gerry said, this is “distortion of the truth by unscrupulous activists.”
 
Gay and lesbian Roman Catholics who contact the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis for spiritual guidance can find themselves directed toward a 12-step program aimed at changing their behavior. Australian-born Michael Bayly, who is the executive coordinator of a gay-Catholic committee, has organized a protest forum. Bayly, who is a member of St. Stephens Catholic Community, believes the Catholic Church needs to be “more accepting of diversity”

**Gay and lesbian Roman Catholics are protesting a therapy aimed at helping them become celibate. The programs are provoking national – and even international – protests from critics.
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The Catholic Church is not in the business of changing one’s sexual preferences. It is in the business of saving souls. Changing one’s sexual preference is not a guarantee of reaching Heaven. The Church teaches that homosexuals are called in Christ to live a chaste life, just as heterosexuals are called to do. This includes both the married and the unmarried. The 12-step program is no guarantee that this is possible. Some in the Church believe that the 12-step program is some sort of spiritual success program and that anyone with any sort of malady should work through it and be ‘free’. What nonsense.
 
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