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From the 2007 Apostolic Exhortation Sacramentum Caritatis:

“21. … I ask pastors to be vigilant with regard to the celebration of the sacrament of Reconciliation, and to limit the practice of general absolution exclusively to the cases permitted,
(footnote 61: Cf. John Paul II, Motu Proprio Misericordia Dei (7 April 2002): AAS 94 (2002), 452-459.)
since individual absolution is the only form intended for ordinary use.
(footnote 62: Together with the Synod Fathers I wish to note that the non-sacramental penitential services mentioned in the ritual of the sacrament of Reconciliation can be helpful for increasing the spirit of conversion and of communion in Christian communities, thereby preparing hearts for the celebration of the sacrament: cf. Propositio 7.)”

The full document is at vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_ben-xvi_exh_20070222_sacramentum-caritatis_en.html .

So again, make sure it was not a penitential service.
What I attended (this was about 6 years ago but I remember it very clearly) was touted as a penance service WITH GENERAL ABSOLUTION. And we were specifically told we did NOT have to make a regular confession afterwards. People are just being misled, it’s a shame.
 
I’ve heard certain priests do a general absolution so that no one has a reason not to go to communion. I don’t know if this was the case with this particular priest.

Of course, the general absolution does not allow you to go to communion if you’re in the state of mortal sin. Neither does a priest who tells you to go to communion just because you were still waiting in the confession line and he had to break to distribute communion.
 
I can’t tell you how many people in my parish who have been misled by this type of “General Absolution”. Normal everyday people usually don’t have time to keep up with what’s going on in Rome and if anything has been changed or modified. (goes to show you we have to find out ourselves rather than to rely some of the clergy to point people in the right direction) I am really shocked at the number of Lay Ministers and Deacons who uphold this type of liberal mindset. I actually had one person that I believed should know better tell me individual confession is really outdated.

BUT…on a more positive note, I don’t see any services in my area this lent, and I see lots of times scheduled for individual confession. I have an inkling that our Bishop might have decided to squash this thing. The Liberal thinking on this was so widespread in my neck of the woods that he had to get wind of this sooner or later.
 
“This” gets back to the thrust of a bunch of posts I have made on other threads: to wit: that when we had (and used) the Baltimore Catechism, little nuances such as conditions that were applicable for General Absolution were included in the daily religious education program.

After the Baltimore Catechism was discarded, students were left with NOTHING.

So, whereas folks used to get a smattering of everything (inadequate, but better than nothing), absent the Baltimore Catechism, they then got NOTHING.

So … folks have been taught NOTHING in place of the little that they were taught.

It’s like turning a two year old child loose with zero education and letting him grow up with no training and no education. The best he can do is to “go with his feelings”. That would be all he has.

What we must do is (for starters) get back to the basics of the Baltimore Catechism [three different editions for different age groups], and then introduce a fourth edition for adults.
I can’t tell you how many people in my parish who have been misled by this type of “General Absolution”. Normal everyday people usually don’t have time to keep up with what’s going on in Rome and if anything has been changed or modified. (goes to show you we have to find out ourselves rather than to rely some of the clergy to point people in the right direction) I am really shocked at the number of Lay Ministers and Deacons who uphold this type of liberal mindset. I actually had one person that I believed should know better tell me individual confession is really outdated.

BUT…on a more positive note, I don’t see any services in my area this lent, and I see lots of times scheduled for individual confession. I have an inkling that our Bishop might have decided to squash this thing. The Liberal thinking on this was so widespread in my neck of the woods that he had to get wind of this sooner or later.
 
Keep in mind that general absolution is a legitimate form of absolution when the number of penitents is so large that one priest could not hear all the confessions in a reasonable amount of time.

Most priests that do this have made a point of saying something like “if you are conscious of a mortal sin, then you are strongly encouraged to seek individual confession…yada yada”.

What we need to keep in mind is that the absolution is not invalid…it might be given inappropriately by the priest I suppose…but it is still a valid absolution…
 
Keep in mind that general absolution is a legitimate form of absolution when the number of penitents is so large that one priest could not hear all the confessions in a reasonable amount of time.

Most priests that do this have made a point of saying something like “if you are conscious of a mortal sin, then you are strongly encouraged to seek individual confession…yada yada”.

What we need to keep in mind is that the absolution is not invalid…it might be given inappropriately by the priest I suppose…but it is still a valid absolution…
Explain to me:
If the priest has no authority to do a general absolution except in dire circumstances…how can the absolution still be valid?
 
Explain to me:
If the priest has no authority to do a general absolution except in dire circumstances…how can the absolution still be valid?
It’s sort of like if the priest changes words to the Eucharistic prayer outside of the institution narrative that the Eucharist might be illicit…but it is not invalid.

The priest has conferred absolution on you…it’s valid…and it’s a gift of God’s mercy.

Whether or not it was done in a way that was ‘rubrically sound’ is not part of the equation for the validity of the absolution, so long as it was done with the correct formula.

If a parish offers both individual reconciliation and offers a communal service, and 500 people show up for the communal service and their is only 1 priest…how is he supposed to deal with that? “Please come back later…the mercy and pardon of God are not available today”
 
I think that these things have become popular because of the priest shortage or at least that’s my opinion. Now at my church we have both the 1 on 1 confession and the services where priests from around the diocese come and hear confessions as we line up.

Now my priest is great to confess to and he never makes you feel rushed. However, its hard not realize that this one man is the sole celebrant at our parish and we have mass 3x on Sat, 5x on Sunday and 2x each day, and we’re packed out at every one of them. Every week we have baptisms and funerals (not an exageration). He has responsibilities at the school and of course the other organizations who require his presense. This doesn’t even take into account the divine office. I’ve never seen him not on his way to do something.

To be honest I usually feel guilty about going to private confession because I know that I’m taking up his time. I know its his job but still I feel selfish half the time (on the upside it has made me work even harder not to sin, Catholic guilt to the rescue! 😃 ). Fact is that the Church grows (by a lot) every year and our priests are dwindling. I think the abuse of the general absolution and the reconciliation mass is just evidence of clergy that is stretched to thin trying to get to everybody.

Lets just all remember to pray for our priests and to encourage them and be patient with them as they shoulder a great responsibility, and lets all pray for more vocations.
 
Explain to me:
If the priest has no authority to do a general absolution except in dire circumstances…how can the absolution still be valid?
There are two justitifications for general absolution. The first is immenient danger of death. The second is grave necessity.

From the Motu Proprio Misericordia Dei at vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/motu_proprio/documents/hf_jp-ii_motu-proprio_20020502_misericordia-dei_en.html .

"4. In the light of and within the framework of the above norms, the absolution of a number of penitents at once without previous confession, as envisaged by Can. 961 of the Code of Canon Law, is to be correctly understood and administered. Such absolution is in fact “exceptional in character” and “cannot be imparted in a general manner unless:
  1. the danger of death is imminent and there is not time for the priest or priests to hear the confessions of the individual penitents;
  2. a grave necessity exists, that is, when in light of the number of penitents a supply of confessors is not readily available to hear the confessions of individuals in an appropriate way within an appropriate time, so that the penitents would be deprived of sacramental grace or Holy Communion for a long time through no fault of their own; it is not considered sufficient necessity if confessors cannot be readily available only because of the great number of penitents, as can occur on the occasion of some great feast or pilgrimage”.
    [footnote 19: Can. 961, § 1]
With reference to the case of grave necessity, the following clarification is made:

a) It refers to situations which are objectively exceptional, such as can occur in mission territories or in isolated communities of the faithful, where the priest can visit only once or very few times a year, or when war or weather conditions or similar factors permit.

b) The two conditions set down in the Canon to determine grave necessity are inseparable. Therefore, it is never just a question of whether individuals can have their confession heard “in an appropriate way” and “within an appropriate time” because of the shortage of priests; this must be combined with the fact that penitents would otherwise be forced to remain deprived of sacramental grace “for a long time”, through no fault of their own. Therefore, account must be taken of the overall circumstances of the penitents and of the Diocese, in what refers to its pastoral organization and the possibility of the faithful having access to the Sacrament of Penance.

c) The first condition, the impossibility of hearing confessions “in an appropriate way” “within an appropriate time”, refers only to the time reasonably required for the elements of a valid and worthy celebration of the Sacrament. It is not a question here of a more extended pastoral conversation, which can be left to more favourable circumstances. The reasonable and appropriate time within which confessions can be heard will depend upon the real possibilities of the confessor or confessors, and of the penitents themselves.

d) The second condition calls for a prudential judgement in order to assess how long penitents can be deprived of sacramental grace for there to be a true impossibility as described in Can. 960, presuming that there is no imminent danger of death. Such a judgement is not prudential if it distorts the sense of physical or moral impossibility, as would be the case, for example, if it was thought that a period of less than a month means remaining “for a long time” in such a state of privation.

e) It is not acceptable to contrive or to allow the contrivance of situations of apparent grave necessity, resulting from not administering the Sacrament in the ordinary way through a failure to implement the above mentioned norms,(20) and still less because of penitents’ preference for general absolution, as if this were a normal option equivalent to the two ordinary forms set out in the Ritual.

f) The large number of penitents gathered on the occasion of a great feast or pilgrimage, or for reasons of tourism or because of today’s increased mobility of people, does not in itself constitute sufficient necessity.
  1. Judgement as to whether there exist the conditions required by Can. 961 §1, 2 is not a matter for the confessor but for “the diocesan Bishop …"
 
In my understanding, the only ordinary mode of confession is private, vocal confession to a priest or bishop.

The matter of the sacrament is provided by the penitent and includes three things:

o Contrition with a firm purpose of amendment
o An integral confession of all mortal sins the penitent is cognizant of
o The satisfaction of any penance prescribed by the priest.

The Form of the confession is the liturgically prescribed words, that include the phrase “I absolve you of your sins in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”

General Absolution is an extraordinary form of the sacrament, allowed only for the reasons ably listed by other posters.

In this form, the matter is amended to
o Contrition with a firm purpose of amendment
o A firm purpose to make a valid, ordinary confession at the next possible opportunity

Should the penitents not be told, or not realize, the obligation to make an ordinary, verbal confession, they do not have valid matter, and thus no sacrament.

Just finished listening to Fr. Corapi’s The Teachings of Jesus Christ on this exact topic about an hour ago. I think Fr. Corapi would be proud I remembered that much for an entire hour. 😉
 
Did the priest say “And I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit”?

Yes–those were the exact words said at the end of the service.

What makes it worse was that a friend went with me to this (this was not our usual parish) and my friend does not believe that the Catholic church believes in confession anymore–and she took this as proof that private confession was obsolete. I’m having a hard time explaining to her that private confession is what we’re supposed to be doing.
Unfortunately, General Absolution does happen in some parishes. They have been doing it for years in the parish where my sister lives. I am sure they are gearing up for another General Absolution Service as we speak. This is something the Bishop has allowed this priest to do. It is standing room only when they have this service as people from surrounding parishes also attend.
 
The matter of the sacrament is provided by the penitent and includes three things:

o Contrition with a firm purpose of amendment
o An integral confession of all mortal sins the penitent is cognizant of
o The satisfaction of any penance prescribed by the priest.
I question this last. It has been mentioned at least once on this forum that absolution cannot be conditional. It is either granted and occurs at the time of the confession, or it is not. Penance afterward is simply an obligation of obedience to the priest, not a condition without which the absolution is invalid.
 
It’s sort of like if the priest changes words to the Eucharistic prayer outside of the institution narrative that the Eucharist might be illicit…but it is not invalid.

The priest has conferred absolution on you…it’s valid…and it’s a gift of God’s mercy.

Whether or not it was done in a way that was ‘rubrically sound’ is not part of the equation for the validity of the absolution, so long as it was done with the correct formula.

If a parish offers both individual reconciliation and offers a communal service, and 500 people show up for the communal service and their is only 1 priest…how is he supposed to deal with that? “Please come back later…the mercy and pardon of God are not available today”
You really have a very vaild point. This does actually happen in some parishes and indeed in some diocese. I think it is unfortunate as I believe there are more graces imposed on individual confession, but the priest shortage in some areas is REAL. It is actually getting worse in our area. There are several areas that are merging and one Pastor has responsiblility for 3 to 5 and sometimes 7 parishes.😦 And with very little help from assisting priests mind you. We are fortunate that we have a seminary close by where they do hear individual confessions I believe twice weekly. I am really hoping this shortage does not continue, as some of us might be traveling a great distance just to go to confession. I guess this is where our prayers for vocation comes into play.😉 I know our Bishop wants to squelch this “general absolution” thing but practically speaking, sometimes there is just no way a Pastor in these tight circumstances can hear all those individual confessions. As I see it, depending on the shortage in your diocese, the Pastor (alot of times the only Priest for a large parish or multiple parishes) is between a “rock and a hard place.”

It is a not so subtle reminder to PRAY FOR VOCATIONS TO THE PRIESTHOOD.👍 :gopray2:

Tee
 
You really have a very vaild point. This does actually happen in some parishes and indeed in some diocese. I think it is unfortunate as I believe there are more graces imposed on individual confession, but the priest shortage in some areas is REAL. It is actually getting worse in our area. There are several areas that are merging and one Pastor has responsiblility for 3 to 5 and sometimes 7 parishes.😦 And with very little help from assisting priests mind you. We are fortunate that we have a seminary close by where they do hear individual confessions I believe twice weekly. I am really hoping this shortage does not continue, as some of us might be traveling a great distance just to go to confession. I guess this is where our prayers for vocation comes into play.😉 I know our Bishop wants to squelch this “general absolution” thing but practically speaking, sometimes there is just no way a Pastor in these tight circumstances can hear all those individual confessions. As I see it, depending on the shortage in your diocese, the Pastor (alot of times the only Priest for a large parish or multiple parishes) is between a “rock and a hard place.”

It is a not so subtle reminder to PRAY FOR VOCATIONS TO THE PRIESTHOOD.👍 :gopray2:

Tee
I agree with everything you have said but the real problem here is that there are some parishes that have been doing this for years. If you go to my sister’s parish on any given weekend for individual confession usually there are only 2 or 3 people in the church. Quite frankly I don’t know how you turn something like this around after such a long period of time.
 
I question this last. It has been mentioned at least once on this forum that absolution cannot be conditional. It is either granted and occurs at the time of the confession, or it is not. Penance afterward is simply an obligation of obedience to the priest, not a condition without which the absolution is invalid.
yes, perhaps you are right. It may be that what is required is the acceptance of penance when given, and the intent to carry it out.

I know for a fact that sometimes absolution cannot be given unless the penitent gives to the priest a solemn promise to change their ways as a firm purpose of amendment.

In Fr. Corapi’s tape, he sites as a general example of a person using ABC, who may even be sorry for having used ABC in the past - but without a firm commitment to give up the practice of ABC, he says he is not allowed to give absolution, as valid matter in the form of a firm purpose of amendment is not present.

If the sacrament is valid confected (ie valid matter as above and valid form) then it exists. If the person does not intend to amend their ways and just agrees with the priest to “get absolution”, I guess my contention would be no sacrament exists, and no absolution.

And lastly if the penitent accepts the penance, but then purposely does not perform it, the sacrament must exist, absolution must be granted, but then the penitent would be guilty of the new sin of profanation of the sacrament, correct?
 
I agree with everything you have said but the real problem here is that there are some parishes that have been doing this for years. If you go to my sister’s parish on any given weekend for individual confession usually there are only 2 or 3 people in the church. Quite frankly I don’t know how you turn something like this around after such a long period of time.
I think that this is one of the reasons the Bishop in my diocese is trying hard to reverse this thing, but as it appears it is almost “against all odds.” At least lent this year looks a little different. I believe one of the parishes will hold a General Absolution Service, but there are more individual confessions scheduled more regularly at the churches than I’ve seen in the past. They are emphasizing it more this year than I’ve seen, even in the weekly bulletins. The reason I say “against all odds” is that there are very few priests in which to carry this all out, unless they plan to “borrow” some from somewhere, like they have been doing to fill in regular Mass times. You know, however, that the Bishop has to be worried about people getting into the habit of general absolution and letting individual confession fall by the wayside. It really is a worrysome situation, I have heard a few priests voice the fact that there just isn’t time for it all, which I KNOW some people say “hogwash” to, but the fact of the matter is, how does*** one*** priest Pastor several parishes (with and sometimes without very little help from assisting priests) and hear individual confessions in all 3, 5 or 7 different parishes???:hmmm: I have also seen alot of burnout in some of our poor beleagered priests. One that I have heard but don’t personally know him just left!! Walked out!! The people that really “get” this situation of course are the people that are facing it as we speak. As I said before we are still ok as we have a seminary close by that hears twice weekly. What about the diocese that don’t have that? Yes, we have several Deacons at each parish which helps but THEY can’t do everything. And then of course you have the parishioners that are very upset that this one poor man can’t give them their undivided attention when they demand it.:rolleyes:

Long story short, I think the Church in some areas really is between a rock and a hard place. The Bishop, of course wants to lead his priests to guide God’s people in the right direction, (realizing that this sacrament will be compromised if he doesn’t do something) and that’s what the priests want to do also but they are literally running around like one armed paper hangers! In some areas of this country (and maybe others as well) it is a REAL problem.

Reminds me of corporate downsizing (it’s having the same effect anyway) where they eliminate all these jobs and people are literally having to do the work of 3 people. The work just doesn’t get done the way it should, how can it? And then the CEO is screaming that they need to take more time for this that or the other.:banghead:

We need to pray for more priests. Big time.

Tee
 
I don’t think that the “priest shortage” is a good excuse for the General Absolution thing. When I go to private confession on Saturday mornings, there’s hardly anyone there. I think everyone else either
a) doesn’t believe the Catholic Church teaches there’s such a thing as sin anymore
b) believes going to a General Absolution once a year is all ya need
or
c) is going to this website—the ultimate answer for the priest shortage:
absolution-online.com/confessional/
 
The only legitimate General Absolution that I know of personally took place in New York City on September 11, 2001. At least two priests, that I know of, saw the carnage when the first plane hit and knelt in the roadway and gave absolution to everyone in the twin towers.

One priest was in Brooklyn or Queens and was driving somewhere when traffic stopped. He got out of his car and immediately gave General Absolution. The other priest was the pastor of the Catholic church nearest to the WTC (St. Peter’s Church on Barclay Street) and he also immediately gave General Absolution.
Wow. I didn’t know that. I’m very moved that they did this. If I were a family member, this would give me some comfort knowing that.
 
I don’t think that the “priest shortage” is a good excuse for the General Absolution thing. When I go to private confession on Saturday mornings, there’s hardly anyone there. I think everyone else either
a) doesn’t believe the Catholic Church teaches there’s such a thing as sin anymore
b) believes going to a General Absolution once a year is all ya need
or
c) is going to this website—the ultimate answer for the priest shortage:
absolution-online.com/confessional/
No doubt a) is part of the problem. b) That I think has been emphasized by our clergy in some areas c) is a ridiculous substitute for any kind of confession

There are definitely several factors that enter into this problem. Each one feeds off the other. The priest shortage is REAL and people who don’t believe that are not experiencing it. There are many areas that there are ample priests to handle sacraments. I know in my area there is one particular parish with of course one Pastor, period. On Saturday, there are so many Baptisms, Quinsenjeras, (sp??) and Weddings, that he goes from 7:00 AM until 6 or 7PM without a break. Someone is always designated to bring him food. This is most Saturdays. Sundays are full as well. The rest of the week from what I understand takes on a life of its own with School Board meetings (of which he is of course the head of) Parish Counsel, etc., He might be able to squeeze them in on a weeknight sometime, I don’t know but his weekends are cashed. Who has the wherewithal to hear confessions at 7:30 or 8:00 at night after a 12 hour day? Alot of people won’t buy this at all, I realize, but I see it happening more and more around here.

You are right though, sin has NOT been emphasized. The sacrament of reconcilliation has NOT been emphasized. When was the last time you heard anything about sin from the pulpit? That fact and the shortage has a direct correlation.
 
I have been absoloved through a general absolution and now i am wondering if it was valid… i was at a school trip, and several of the schools there, including mine are run by a fairly liberal order. A certain priest of this order held a special Mass for us and in the begining said he had special dispensation to give a general absolution, it seemed odd…was this valid?
 
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