Genesis reliable for faith?

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goout:
You dispute that human beings have a mother and a father?
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Of course not.

Adam and Eve ARE the First Parents of Humankind.

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Please quote a post where I denied that Adam and Eve are the first true human beings.
 
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goout said:
Please quote a post where I denied that Adam and Eve are the fist true human beings.
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It’s not about you denying anything…

I’ve simply posted what is Known Re: Adam and Eve…

God Created Them…

Then From them - the rest of Mankind came to be

We know this from Sacred Scriptures…

It’s reinforced in Apostolic Tradition and Magisterium

To the OP? Genesis is a very important - indispensible book - re: Faith and Salvation.

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EndTimes said:
No.

No one has shown that both Adam and Eve - parents of all humans - sprung from non-humans
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The Bible itself makes this very claim!

Adam is “from the dust”. Are you claiming that the dust of Eden was human? 🤣

Seriously, though: the Bible doesn’t address the question at all, so at best you could say “no one has shown that the Bible attempts to answer this question one way or another.”
 
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Gorgias:
The Bible itself makes this very claim!
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So now… non-humans is congruent with dust?
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Unless you want to assert that dust is human, it sure is! 🤣

In any case, the question is really “does the Bible tell us that both animals and humans were made from pre-existing matter?”. The answer is an unambiguous “yes!”

We can add a second question: “does the Bible tell us that Adam was made from an ensouled human?”. That answer is “no”.

Here’s where the fun starts: the Bible doesn’t describe the middle ground between “pre-existing matter” and “actual true ensouled human”. So… this is what we’re attempting to discern.
 
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Gorgias said:
Here’s where the fun starts: the Bible doesn’t describe the middle ground between “pre-existing matter” and “actual true ensouled human”. So… this is what we’re attempting to discern.
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And that discernment is the path to faith formation. God doesn’t provide human certitude on these matters through the scriptures. God gives us the truth necessary for our salvation. And we come to salvation by faith. And faith is a process. It is a virtue. It asks for our response. And easy black and white answers to these mysteries is not conducive to faith formation.

The search itself is conducive to our salvation, not just having the answers.
 
goout said:
And easy black and white answers to these mysteries is not conducive to faith formation.
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LOL!

We’re almost up to 80 posts in this thread, and this question is constantly debated in long threads over and again. Who said this was an “easy black and white answer”?!? 🤣
 
Gorgias said:
Unless you want to assert that dust is human, it sure is! 🤣
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Unless you don’t want to allow that God can create from Nothing or Dust,
you may giggle away … b/c God gave you the Free Will to do so…
 
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