"Geologists claim stats, science prove Jesus buried in Jerusalem with wife and supposed son"

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I came across these two articles, one from the Daily Mail, the other The Jerusalem Post. They claim there is an ossuariy found with Jesus buried with a wife and son.

I’m assuming there is not a lot of truth to this, as I would surely have heard it being flaunted as a ‘lol Jesus had a wife/didn’t die on cross’. Is anyone knowledgeable on this area? 🙂
 
Zadeth said:
I came across these two articles, one from the Daily Mail, the other The Jerusalem Post. They claim there is an ossuariy found with Jesus buried with a wife and son.

I’m assuming there is not a lot of truth to this, as I would surely have heard it being flaunted as a ‘lol Jesus had a wife/didn’t die on cross’. Is anyone knowledgeable on this area? 🙂
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The old Talpiot tomb controversy, I gather?

You might wanna start with this. ntweblog.blogspot.jp/2013/09/simcha-jacobovici-and-talpiot-tomb-again.html 😉
 
Not every John Smith is Doctor Who, and there are plenty of people named Dylan who aren’t the one in the Mabinogion.

“Jesus” or “Yehoshua” was one of the most common names in Roman Judea and Galilee. Other common names were Miriam/Maria, Joseph, Judas/Judah, Hannah/Anna, Simeon/Simon, Yonah/Jonas, etc…

So yeah, the ossuary was probably not authentic and there are tons of signs of forgery.

But even if it had been authentic, it wouldn’t have proved anything but that some guy was named Yehoshua.
 
Mintaka said:
Not every John Smith is Doctor Who, and there are plenty of people named Dylan who aren’t the one in the Mabinogion.

“Jesus” or “Yehoshua” was one of the most common names in Roman Judea and Galilee. Other common names were Miriam/Maria, Joseph, Judas/Judah, Hannah/Anna, Simeon/Simon, Yonah/Jonas, etc…

So yeah, the ossuary was probably not authentic and there are tons of signs of forgery.

But even if it had been authentic, it wouldn’t have proved anything but that some guy was named Yehoshua.
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Thanks for your reply. Could you expand on the BIB? 🙂
 
Zadeth said:
Thanks for your reply. Could you expand on the BIB? 🙂
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I’m guessing it’s like carving your name into a desk or writing “BOB WAS HERE, 33 AD” or something like that. 🤷

Also, Old World sites in the Middle East have had problems with grave/treasure robbers over the years, often before the academics find them.
 
From the blog:
The general response from Simcha Jacobovici himself has either been dismissal or mockery. Although he asked his critics to point out the mistakes, he has never responded to my attempts to explain why I am unconvinced by his claims, preferring instead either to ignore the critical response or to mock what he calls underwear bloggers.
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Yeah, see, there is thing (although sometimes corrupt) called peer review. The idea is to root out false claims like “cold fusion was invented”.
That’s me, and people like me, sitting on the couch, blogging in our underpants while we eat takeaway pizza!
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Well, obviously this blogger isn’t an “underwear” blogger, because those folks don’t have capital for take-out pizza.

But we’ve pretty much heard it all now. Jesus married and went to France, Jesus went to India, Mary is buried in Pakistan, Jesus never existed, ect. ect.

You’d think by now they would have made up their mind on one conspiracy theory. 🤷

And note how interesting it is that no one has made such claims about Caesar or any of Our Lord’s contemporaries. Somehow, those records never questioned…
 
The story is five months old. The J Post report is dated April 5 and the Daily Mail report April 7. The nonsense was widely debunked at the time.
 
Faith1960 said:
Got more links? This subject bothers me and I’d like to see it put to rest once and for all.
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I came across this, which ends signed by a bunch of scholars: “To conclude, we wish to protest the misrepresentation of the conference proceedings in the media, and make it clear that the majority of scholars in attendance—including all of the archaeologists and epigraphers who presented papers relating to the tomb—either reject the identification of the Talpiot tomb as belonging to Jesus’s family or find this claim highly speculative.”
 
Zadeth said:
I came across these two articles, one from the Daily Mail, the other The Jerusalem Post. They claim there is an ossuariy found with Jesus buried with a wife and son.

I’m assuming there is not a lot of truth to this, as I would surely have heard it being flaunted as a ‘lol Jesus had a wife/didn’t die on cross’. Is anyone knowledgeable on this area? 🙂
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Some people will believe anything !! My Mom used to say, “There’s a fool every day.!!” God Bless, Memaw
 
Zadeth said:
I came across these two articles, one from the Daily Mail, the other The Jerusalem Post. They claim there is an ossuariy found with Jesus buried with a wife and son.

I’m assuming there is not a lot of truth to this, as I would surely have heard it being flaunted as a ‘lol Jesus had a wife/didn’t die on cross’. Is anyone knowledgeable on this area? 🙂
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If this is true… all of Christianity would be a lie. Jesus didn’t rise from the dead and therefore is not God!
 
Mintaka said:
But even if it had been authentic, it wouldn’t have proved anything but that some guy was named Yehoshua.
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Yeah. Among the twelve Apostles, there were two Simons, two James, and two Judes. So half of the Apostles did not have unique names. (I’m waiting for some imaginative anti-Catholic to claim that Jesus gave Peter his new name simply to avoid confusion.)

There were three women at the foot of the Cross, and they were all named Mary.

King Henry-8 had six wives. Three were named Anne and two were named Katherine. Only Jane Seymour did not have an ambiguous first name, even though the name “Jane” is considered common (as in Jane Doe).
 
You all forget that **everybody **knew where our LORD was buried.

It is hard to cover up a death; it is almost impossible to hide the result of state execution.

If our LORD remained dead, it would have been the easiest thing in the world for the Roman guard to produce the body – it wasn’t walking anywhere – and squelch the resurrection talk for good.

They didn’t because there was nobody there. Full stop!

Someone coming along 100 generations later with a bonebox that may, or may not, be that old, engraved with three rather common names for that time, is really somewhat beside the point.

ICXC NIKA
 
Mintaka said:
Not every John Smith is Doctor Who, and there are plenty of people named Dylan who aren’t the one in the Mabinogion.

“Jesus” or “Yehoshua” was one of the most common names in Roman Judea and Galilee. Other common names were Miriam/Maria, Joseph, Judas/Judah, Hannah/Anna, Simeon/Simon, Yonah/Jonas, etc…

So yeah, the ossuary was probably not authentic and there are tons of signs of forgery.

But even if it had been authentic, it wouldn’t have proved anything but that some guy was named Yehoshua.
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Love your Dr. Who reference! 👍
 
DavidFilmer said:
Yeah. Among the twelve Apostles, there were two Simons, two James, and two Judes. So half of the Apostles did not have unique names. (I’m waiting for some imaginative anti-Catholic to claim that Jesus gave Peter his new name simply to avoid confusion.)

There were three women at the foot of the Cross, and they were all named Mary.

King Henry-8 had six wives. Three were named Anne and two were named Katherine. Only Jane Seymour did not have an ambiguous first name, even though the name “Jane” is considered common (as in Jane Doe).
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Other way round on Anne/Catherine (various spellings).
 
That is the same thing that came up in 2007 called the Jesus’ tomb and there was a Discovery Channel documentary all about it.

I remember looking at it seriously at the time. The whole argument lies in the mathematically low probability of finding all the names together.

But the problem is the interpretation of the names on the box itself. There are in fact other names on the box not mentioned, and the names themselves have multiple possible translations. So it is more likely that the collection of names is actually just a typical set of people’s name from that time. There is nothing OTHER than the mathematical uniqueness of the combination of names that WOULD be interesting if it was clear that those names were actually the ones found.

They find stuff like that ll the time over there it turns out.

Even the popular media dropped interest in the story.
 
Archaeologists rejected this as the tomb of Jesus at the time. Anyone know if they still reject it?
I sometimes correspond with an archaeologist who hasn’t changed her mind about it, but I was hoping someone could tell me if they still reject it or if they’ve changed their minds.
 
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