Getting Over Husband's Sexual Past

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I am on this forum, because I am already depressed… I have been in this depression for some time and it is eating me up…

I don’t know how to build my life again, not when I am in this situation, because my hatred for that woman and my husband’s passiveness is consuming me. People I have tried to be friends with over here all defend my husband, because this is his turf.

You are lucky to have your support system. But I would not subject my loved ones to my turmoil. I seek help on this forum, to have a sounding board… and everyone has been “helpful” and honest… It hurts to be judged, but you all are right.

The only thing that’s wrong is people think I should go to counseling. I CAN’T. It doesn’t work for me. I’m not responsive to such interventions. It’s one thing to be judged online, but face to face… No, I have to keep my dignity… at least what’s left of it.
Read this again!
You say you are

Depressed
Depression is eating you up
Husband is passive
You are isolating from loved ones
At your wits end.

How can you say you don’t need counseling?

At what point would you entertain it, when your depression mounts to suicidal ideas? It could be too late then!

You know right now you are on a sinking ship in the middle of the ocean. Your decision is to sit there and sink or maybe even blow the ship up.

Instead you need to patch the hole, work hard baling water, and call the coast guard for help.

Your pride may very well destroy you.
 
Unbelievably Selfish and illogical.

I will tell you from experience, if you think divorce washes away your problems your very wrong. It will compound your problems 1000 times over.

You need serious help. Please seek it.
I will… from a lawyer. I don’t expect divorce to wash away my problems. I am taking myself out, because I AM THE PROBLEM.

You will not see it from my POV, because you’re not in my shoes. I will not seek help, because I already know what the counselors will try to tell me…

And in my very first post, I asked if I was being selfish and stupid. You, Sir, have just confirmed that I am, and I thank you for that. Sincerely, I do.

I am sorry for wasting your time, Jon S… But all the advice you’ve given is moving. I think it will help someone who’s in the same predicament as me. But someone stronger.

I am weak and simple. I have lost myself in all this and need to find myself again. And I don’t think I can do that being in this marriage and all the baggage. And I can now finally admit that this setup is not for me. It took marrying my husband and being in this situation to wake me up and to learn that lesson.
 
I will… from a lawyer. I don’t expect divorce to wash away my problems. I am taking myself out, because I AM THE PROBLEM.

You will not see it from my POV, because you’re not in my shoes. I will not seek help, because I already know what the counselors will try to tell me…

And in my very first post, I asked if I was being selfish and stupid. You, Sir, have just confirmed that I am, and I thank you for that. Sincerely, I do.

I am sorry for wasting your time, Jon S… But all the advice you’ve given is moving. I think it will help someone who’s in the same predicament as me. But someone stronger.

I am weak and simple. I have lost myself in all this and need to find myself again. And I don’t think I can do that being in this marriage and all the baggage. And I can now finally admit that this setup is not for me. It took marrying my husband and being in this situation to wake me up and to learn that lesson.
If you know what the counselors were going to tell you, you would have done it and you’d be fine. What if the misery you are experiencing actually has nothing to do with your husband’s ex and everything to do with chemicals in your brain that you have no control over? It could be a coincidence, but did you know that one of the leading causes of infertility is low progesterone, which is also known to contribute to depression? What if the problem isn’t YOU, but a disorder in your brain that can be managed medically? If it was me, I would want to know before I would hurt my husband, ruin my marriage, and lose my faith. You say you are close to your family. What do they say? Have you talked to your mom on the phone?
 
In a nutshell, I basically left everything I know–my church, my family, my career, my friends, my house, my car, my comfort zone, etc–to relocate and be with my husband. Nothing from my past ever comes up, because I have no skeletons or baggage. I gave up everything. He did not give up anything. He acquired me. He didn’t have to turn his world around. I did. So please, PLEASE, don’t ever tell me I have not sacrificed anything.
Yes, you relocated however many miles away, but you did it because** you wanted to be with your husband**. You didn’t sacrifice for him, you sacrificed for you because you wanted to be with him. Besides, what was he supposed to do? Abandon his child to come live with you?
Thank you, Contra Mundum. I do need to breathe. But I am faced with this situation every day, so it’s kind of hard. I’m a stay at home wife and pretty much have very little contact with my friends and family. They are all over the US, so I feel so alone. And I would not want them to get involved with this, because I don’t want them to get worried.
I am on this forum, because I am already depressed… I have been in this depression for some time and it is eating me up…

I don’t know how to build my life again, not when I am in this situation,** because my hatred for that woman and my husband’s passiveness is consuming me.** People I have tried to be friends with over here all defend my husband, because this is his turf.

The only thing that’s wrong is people think I should go to counseling. I CAN’T. It doesn’t work for me. I’m not responsive to such interventions. It’s one thing to be judged online, but face to face… No, I have to keep my dignity… at least what’s left of it.
Annnd there is a huge part of your problem.

A lot of people feel they have lost who they are when they marry. And there’s a reason for that…because when we marry we aren’t just ourselves anymore. We become half of a whole, for lack of a better way to describe it.

Being a housewife with friends and family close by can be isolating enough. Being a housewife far away from friends and family is even worse. No wonder you obsess over your husbands sexual past and the mother of his child! You say that the child is there only a few days a month and yet you obsess and feel tortured by this every day… What else have you got to occupy your time and mind?

You had a career before and have no children now, right? Why not look for a job? A job, or even just the search for a job, would give you a useful preoccupation, a way to meet people and make friends, some extra money to save or spend etc. And if you did become pregnant you could always go back to being a stay at home wife.

Don’t want or can’t find a job? Get a hobby. Join a church group or a secular group. Volunteer for those less fortunate. Learn to garden or do household renovations. Always wanted to take a class or go back to college for a better/different degree? The options are endless…whatever you think you’d enjoy.

The reason that the people there you have spoken to defend your husband is because he isn’t doing anything wrong. It has nothing to do with location. When people in your life and online tell you the same thing it’s probably time to consider they might be right. And you have considered and even said that everyone is right, yes? You have agreed that you are the problem here. So, doesn’t that mean that you need to do some work on you?

Give it 6 months. In those 6 months get a job and/or some hobbies. Meet people, make friends, rediscover who you are as an individual and as a wife. Start going to local events and festivals Basically, get a life. Once you have a life again you’ll feel better, be a lot less insecure, and be much better able to handle the situation.

Oh, and P.S.
It’s not that your husband doesn’t love you dearly. Men really do view some things differently than women. He probably honestly and truly cannot understand why you can’t get over it or even understand why it’s a big deal in the first place. I think it took my husband about 3 months to “get over” the fact that I was married and had 2 kids from that marriage. And a lot of that time had to do with him trying to figure out if he could raise and provide for a couple of kids when he had never been responsible for anything before. From his point of view, it couldn’t be changed and I was worth the hassles of having kids around. End of story. Sometimes, men see things very logically and very simply.
 
If you know what the counselors were going to tell you, you would have done it and you’d be fine. What if the misery you are experiencing actually has nothing to do with your husband’s ex and everything to do with chemicals in your brain that you have no control over? It could be a coincidence, but did you know that one of the leading causes of infertility is low progesterone, which is also known to contribute to depression? What if the problem isn’t YOU, but a disorder in your brain that can be managed medically? If it was me, I would want to know before I would hurt my husband, ruin my marriage, and lose my faith. You say you are close to your family. What do they say? Have you talked to your mom on the phone?
No, my mom does not need more stress in her life. I will not bring anyone close to me into this, because they don’t deserve to get burdened by this. That is why I am here, anonymously.

And I don’t and will not blame what I’m going through on disorders. I don’t believe that this could be helped medically. This is situational. I’ve never been depressed like this ever before, and I know the cause and see the effects.
 
Yes, you relocated however many miles away, but you did it because** you wanted to be with your husband**. You didn’t sacrifice for him, you sacrificed for you because you wanted to be with him. Besides, what was he supposed to do? Abandon his child to come live with you?
I did sacrifice for him, because I was the one who turned my life around. No, I didn’t expect him to move and abandon his child, which is why I did, for him. I refuse to let anyone tell me that what I did was not a huge sacrifice. Because it was. I gave up everything. Even my husband acknowledges that what I did was a sacrifice. His family and friends all think I made a sacrifice and can’t believe it. My family can’t. So I disagree, I had to turn my life around for him, and that was okay. But now, I see that maybe I shouldn’t have done that. Because look where I am now…

As for everything you’ve said that would occupy my time, maybe you’re right. But I don’t think I will focus less on the baggage if I do have other things occupying my mind, esp since this “situation” will not go away, and I have to face that awful woman regularly.
 
I did sacrifice for him, because I was the one who turned my life around. No, I didn’t expect him to move and abandon his child, which is why I did, for him. I refuse to let anyone tell me that what I did was not a huge sacrifice. Because it was. I gave up everything. Even my husband acknowledges that what I did was a sacrifice. His family and friends all think I made a sacrifice and can’t believe it. My family can’t. So I disagree, I had to turn my life around for him, and that was okay. But now, I see that maybe I shouldn’t have done that. Because look where I am now…

As for everything you’ve said that would occupy my time, maybe you’re right. But I don’t think I will focus less on the baggage if I do have other things occupying my mind, esp since this “situation” will not go away, and I have to face that awful woman regularly.
Why did you marry him?
 
No, my mom does not need more stress in her life. I will not bring anyone close to me into this, because they don’t deserve to get burdened by this. That is why I am here, anonymously.

And I don’t and will not blame what I’m going through on disorders. I don’t believe that this could be helped medically. This is situational. I’ve never been depressed like this ever before, and I know the cause and see the effects.
Do you think that talking to your mom about your difficulties will be more stressful to her than hearing that her daughter is getting a divorce? If your marraige fails, it will affect other people as well. (Especially your husband! Does he deserve this?) The fact that you have not felt depressed before does not mean that you are not depressed now. I would look into this, especially with the added symptom of infertility. The vast majority of fertility issues are caused by hormonal inbalances. Hormonal imbalances are also known to cause depression. It could merely be coincidental, but you did say that the ex didn’t bother you as much during courtship. What if you have clinical depression and it is being exasperating by the isolation? What if you have to blame it on a disorder because it IS being caused by a disorder? Find out. The worst that can happen is that they tell you, “No. It’s just you.” Then at least you’ll know for sure.
 
I did sacrifice for him, because I was the one who turned my life around. No, I didn’t expect him to move and abandon his child, which is why I did, for him. I refuse to let anyone tell me that what I did was not a huge sacrifice. Because it was. I gave up everything. Even my husband acknowledges that what I did was a sacrifice. His family and friends all think I made a sacrifice and can’t believe it. My family can’t. So I disagree, I had to turn my life around for him, and that was okay. But now, I see that maybe I shouldn’t have done that. Because look where I am now…

As for everything you’ve said that would occupy my time, maybe you’re right. But I don’t think I will focus less on the baggage if I do have other things occupying my mind, esp since this “situation” will not go away, and I have to face that awful woman regularly.
Ok, lets agree to disagree on the sacrifice bit. But can we at least agree that you made the decision to move freely, knowing you were doing it to be with a mad who had a child with another woman? And can we agree that when you only have one thing to focus on that thing tends to overshadow everything else?

Seriously, if you are so opposed to medical intervention in the form of some blood work to check hormone levels, maybe medication to correct any imbalances found, and/or counseling then the only other way out of the mess you’re in while preserving your marriage is for you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get a life of your own separate from the drama.

No, the situation will never go away. In 15 years the boy will be an adult legally, but to his father he will always be a child and your husband will always care and worry for him. But getting something positive going in your life will change how you perceive the situation.
 
bluemistangel,

You seem to have an objection to every suggestion offered:

You claim you know what any counsellor will tell you (which you don’t).

You refuse to acknowledge a potential factor of clinical depression, even though you admit to being “depressed”.

You won’t share your burdens with family, even though that’s part of why God gives us family and it’s a mistake to thing that they will not be even more burdened by how this may evolve from here.

As this thread progresses, it seems that you merely want people to support you in thinking that divorce is the best option. It is not, and you will not find support for it here. As Catholics, we hold marriage to be a sacrament, and as such we know that God gives us grace through it. You need to find that grace now. Please talk to your priest about this situation as a first step. From there, you may begin to see that God’s grace comes in many forms, including potentially - counsellors, psychiatrists, family, and our parish community. Find that grace - it’s there for you.
 
The only thing that’s wrong is people think I should go to counseling. I CAN’T. It doesn’t work for me. I’m not responsive to such interventions. It’s one thing to be judged online, but face to face… No, I have to keep my dignity… at least what’s left of it.
I have a friend who resisted the idea of counselling for several years because she had exactly the same fears and ideas as you do. When she finally went it helped her so much.

I also went to counselling about 8 years ago because I had horrible anxiety and insomnia for several years. It was because of family problems. I reached a point where I couldn’t function and needed help. I was so afraid of what the counsellor would say to me, that I would get bad advice and that I would be judged for being weak and immature. But it was nothing like that. I told her my story and cried and she told me in a very gentle voice that she was so sorry for what I’d been going through. She was very sympathetic and understanding, she did not judge me in the least and did not tell me what to do. Counsellors help you deal with the situation and the pain and help you figure things out as you go along. There are several steps in this process. It is about getting emotional support, about healing and learning practical things that will help you deal with your situation. This helped me so much.

Basically, what I’m trying to say is that a counsellor will not tell you what to do and how you should feel. They will not judge you. They will not interpret the facts in a particular way and try to convince you that their interpretation is correct. They will not take someone else’s side and say you are selfish. They will help you in dealing with this difficult situation.
 
Well the biggest problem I see here is the marriage in the first place. You are not allowed to marry someone who is not a virgin

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bluemistangel,

You seem to have an objection to every suggestion offered:

You claim you know what any counsellor will tell you (which you don’t).

You refuse to acknowledge a potential factor of clinical depression, even though you admit to being “depressed”.

You won’t share your burdens with family, even though that’s part of why God gives us family and it’s a mistake to thing that they will not be even more burdened by how this may evolve from here.

As this thread progresses, it seems that you merely want people to support you in thinking that divorce is the best option. It is not, and you will not find support for it here. As Catholics, we hold marriage to be a sacrament, and as such we know that God gives us grace through it. You need to find that grace now. Please talk to your priest about this situation as a first step. From there, you may begin to see that God’s grace comes in many forms, including potentially - counsellors, psychiatrists, family, and our parish community. Find that grace - it’s there for you.
I absolutely agree on all counts. And please remember, the Lord helps those who help themselves. God can’t do it for you, but if you take steps to improve your life God will help you through. The first step is the hardest. Making an counseling appointment, making a doctor appointment, registering for a class, applying for a job, joining a club or going to a volunteer meeting…all these things are a first step. After that it gets easier and you start feeling better.
Because I love him. But sadly, I don’t think that love is strong enough… 😦
No, love isn’t enough. Ever. Relationships tend to have cycles. Sometimes it’s bliss. Sometimes it’s very hard. It’s the commitment we make and keep that holds things together and allows us to stay through the hard times so that we can enjoy the good times.
 
Because I love him. But sadly, I don’t think that love is strong enough… 😦
You mean you are attracted to him.

Love is willing the good of another, as other even above yourself.

Love means doing something.

If you got married because of how he made you feel instead of because you wanted him to feel loved by you, then you did not truly love him…you loved yourself.

It’s not to late to start. A counselor/priest can help you figure this out.

Unfortunately, love, marriage and life are not as Disney and movies portray it.
 
Yes, you did make a tremendous sacrifice. By choice. That’s why there is another word for a sacrifice.

A gift.

Love is a choice, not a feeling. God chose to show us His love through His passion, not His Glory. We see it tangibly in the pain He was willing to endure for us.

However, writing to you is pointless if you are in fact clinically depressed. I don’t know if you followed the link to the physiology of depression. Because if you are-
  • Your brain is handicapped in processing positive thoughts and emotions
  • Your brain’s capability for processing memory is also affected and will recast prior positive memories in a negative light.
  • Portions of your brain associated with those capabilities are shrinking, and that must be reversed. Certain things have been shown to improve the brains capability to make new cells
  • Medications (Some studies show THC can stimulate growth, HOWEVER it intereferes with other medications and can cancel them out)
  • Therapy
  • Connectedness to people. Having confidants that you can talk freely with
  • Exercise
    (Medication and therapy together have a higher success rate than either separately)
Any encouragement or positive (name removed by moderator)ut I write to you will be rejected because your brain is incapable of processing it as positive or helpful.

You need to at least eliminate this as a possibility. I can’t give you medical advice on this forum. I would encourage you to seek out and consult a professional before making major decisions that will affect the rest of your life, and how you will view yourself.

Again, you and your family are in my prayers.
 
Hello,

I’m sorry for your pain.

I’m going to make a different suggestion which is start with message boards for women struggling with infertility. You didn’t specify and it’s not anyone’s business whether pregnancy loss is part of that but infertility and miscarriage/other pregnancy loss are extremely stressful on people. While my mother did not have trouble conceiving she lost four out of seven pregnancies including two miscarriages a premature birth and a stillbirth.

however it is also quite traumatic when there is failure to conceive whatever the cause and sometimes it isn’t known. it is sounding to me like paying attention to grieving these issues may reveal if the mother and stepchild are an impossible situation in themselves or if that situation although difficult can be dealt with. A supportive atmosphere will probably include advice about how much thought is helpful vs. overdoing it and when/whether professional counseling is needed. There will probably also be women in stepmother situations dealing with feelings about that as well as respecting the bond your husband has with the child while you are in this dilemma.

best of luck
 
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