Ghost-Hunting: Is it immoral?

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Sir_Knight said:
I don’t think we “must”. I think that we SHOULD and it is a good idea to do so because when they are released from purgatory, we will be assured of their prayers for us but I don’t think that we MUST do so.
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Sorry. :o Personally, I think* I* must.
 
Oh honestly…such fear.:eek:…ghosts are simply those who haven’t crossed over yet…spirits are those who have… if you run into something you don’t understand- give it to God and let Him handle the details… but do it with love-not fear…fear attracts negativity…
 
Personally I have always been very intrigued by “ghosts”. One thing though for sure is if you go to some “haunted” place make sure you bring holy items (like Sir Knight mentioned) because it isnt always a friendly ghost, sometimes it is a demonic presence and it will not be kind to you. If your staying someplace unsafe it might just be a better idea to not stay for the sake of safety because a gun wont protect you against someone that grabs you from behind and overpowers you (unless you are some elite super commando or ninja or some thing :-P). Anyway good luck on whatever you decide and have fun!

Ryan Jamieson
 
JCnMe said:
Oh honestly…such fear.:eek:…ghosts are simply those who haven’t crossed over yet…spirits are those who have… if you run into something you don’t understand- give it to God and let Him handle the details… but do it with love-not fear…fear attracts negativity…
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Please be careful. Ghosts do not “cross over.” Souls are immediately judged.

God Bless
 
hi! PLease read MARK:9:11-29 BEFORE YOU ATTEMPT any thing you might be sorry about later, Jesus warns about this and how it should be done. If you get into this situation you should be perpared for it. I went to places like that years ago and Blessed the house of a friedn in fact 2 places and I culd feel the presents of something and zi have been touched by them when I was very young in a house I lived in. I went to the confessional after all that and asked the priest to Bless me and told him where i ahd been and he siad, Please do not do that ever again, it is for a priest highly trained to do. That is all I can tell you of my experience, but I have felt siomething pull my hair and yank on my shirt ETC. I don’t get into that any more. But i tell you , you need alot of faith alot! You are loved Nancy
 
Don’t go looking for anything you don’t want to find. The world is full of unfriendly people, and not all of them are human. If you look for a ghost you may find a demon, a person possessed by a demon, or a mugger. If you are determined to go, then go prepared for anything.
 
fish90… I appreciate your concern- but I’m well aware of what transpires after transition…and some go immediately into God’s Light and some don’t (we still have free will)-there can be any number of reasons why they don’t-but the biggest is they are afraid they will be punished…not going makes them susceptible to lower level enitities who feed on fear and negativity…thankfully God will send angels for them if they turn to Him…Give all fear concerning such things to God… since so much is misunderstood and terms for it are interchanged - it’s always best to just give it to God and pray for the souls- send love - not fear…
 
You’re getting into a dangerous area. Curiosity isn’t necessarily a bad thing in itself, but it’s possible to be too curious about spirits/demons.

As fish90 pointed out, souls are immediately judged and go to one of three “places” upon death. There are no “ghosts” haunting anywhere; spirits that infest areas are demons. There are multiple reasons why they might want to infest, or “haunt”, a place; one reason might be to tempt people’s curiosity so that it will lead them into the demon-infested area and thus danger. This may be why they seem to enjoy appearing as “ghosts”, and by doing so they definitely draw many people to them. Those without grace (probably the majority of those interested in ghosts) basically have no defenses.

It isn’t uncommon for demons to be able to infest an area where great evil has happened, since by the act or acts that occurred the evil was invited. Visiting such an area can only be dangerous. To go to such a place may even be on a similar level as to take part in some occult practice such as tarot card reading, since going there out of curiosity is almost as close as one can get to an invitation to the demons present. If it is comparable, it would pose a similar risk of inviting demonic activity into one’s own life as do occult practices. I don’t think it would be quite as dangerous as taking part in a seance out of curiosity, for instance, but it may be close, and I wouldn’t suggest taking the risk.

As an example, one might bring a cursed item out of curiosity into their home. This can lead to demonic infestation of the home, and no amount of prayer will cause it to leave due to the presence of the cursed item (and this is the least dangerous aspect of having the item there). Similarly, one probably can’t much expect to go to an area infested by demons and be able to pray and toss holy water around for protection. What is needed is for a priest to bless or exorcise the area and get rid of anything that might have caused the infestation in the first place if such a thing exists. Grace protects Catholics to an extent, but God will sometimes allow one who has invited evil into their lives (whether through curiosity, sin, etc.) to be affected by it (he respects our free will, after all).

It’s probably best to simply stay away. I know that I have been tempted to do similar things in the past, but I stamped that out after thinking about it a bit more.
 
JCnMe said:
fish90… I appreciate your concern- but I’m well aware of what transpires after transition…and some go immediately into God’s Light and some don’t (we still have free will)-there can be any number of reasons why they don’t-but the biggest is they are afraid they will be punished…not going makes them susceptible to lower level enitities who feed on fear and negativity…thankfully God will send angels for them if they turn to Him…Give all fear concerning such things to God… since so much is misunderstood and terms for it are interchanged - it’s always best to just give it to God and pray for the souls- send love - not fear…
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Upon death, the soul immediately goes to one of three “places” (or, probably more accurately, enters into one of three states): hell, purgatory, or heaven. Upon death there is no more time to make choices; the choice has been made throughout one’s life and is lived out in death.

This being said, one who has rejected God throughout his lifetime will live that rejection after death, literally choosing hell (or entering hell after having already chosen it). There is no hope upon our deaths to sit a while and try decide where we want to go, due to fear of having died, fear of punishment, or for any reason. There is no more time to act or to try to atone after death. We have our entire lives for that.

A good source for more information on Catholic teaching would be the following:

vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a12.htm

Of course, if one is not Catholic, one is free to believe anything (not that belief implies truth or significance).
 
Personally, as a person who has a history in the Occult, I would stay well clear of any place that may be haunted or whatever. Demons can be dangerous (both physically as well as mentally and spiritually) as is attested to by St. Padre Pio.

padrepio.catholicwebservices.com/ENGLISH/The_Devil.htm

So yeah, my advice is to stay well clear of any haunted place.
 
Holly3278 said:
Personally, as a person who has a history in the Occult, I would stay well clear of any place that may be haunted or whatever. Demons can be dangerous (both physically as well as mentally and spiritually) as is attested to by St. Padre Pio.

padrepio.catholicwebservices.com/ENGLISH/The_Devil.htm

So yeah, my advice is to stay well clear of any haunted place.
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I agree 100 percent with Holly. It was Archbishop Sheen who said, “Play not with what is evil, otherwise we are caught…”
Good, solid advice, from a good, always solid teacher!
God Bless!
To Jesus, through Mary
 
Little_Dove said:
I agree 100 percent with Holly. It was Archbishop Sheen who said, “Play not with what is evil, otherwise we are caught…”
Good, solid advice, from a good, always solid teacher!
God Bless!
To Jesus, through Mary
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Wow, thanks Little Dove. I never considered my self to be a good, always solid teacher. :o I try hard to be accurate when it comes to the Faith but I do make mistakes from time to time so I am definitely not perfect. 😉
 
Wow, Sir Knight. Who are you trying to impress? Every Sir Kight I know would be offended by your presentation. Did you not hear that “Trusting in Jesus”, is all you need?
Even Peter was asked to put down his sword when they came for Jesus in the garden.
You won’t be able to take your gun with you to hell (it will melt) and you sure won’t need it in heaven.

Pablo
 
Digamepablo said:
Wow, Sir Knight. Who are you trying to impress? Every Sir Kight I know would be offended by your presentation. Did you not hear that “Trusting in Jesus”, is all you need?
Even Peter was asked to put down his sword when they came for Jesus in the garden.
You won’t be able to take your gun with you to hell (it will melt) and you sure won’t need it in heaven.

Pablo
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I was impressed haha I want that set now.

Anyway, He explained how it was for self defense purposes in case the house had people in it who wanted to harm him.
Don’t be afraid of weapons, guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
 
HyeDetroit said:
I was impressed haha I want that set now.

Anyway, He explained how it was for self defense purposes in case the house had people in it who wanted to harm him.
Don’t be afraid of weapons, guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
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Yes, that’s true. But why put yourself into a position where you may need to use a weapon if that can be avoided? While it is true that “people kill people”, that dreadful feat is too much easier to accomplish with a gun. I am not convinced that even self-defense justifies the taking of another’s life.
 
Soldier_of_Mary said:
You’re getting into a dangerous area. Curiosity isn’t necessarily a bad thing in itself, but it’s possible to be too curious about spirits/demons.

Very true. Both my mom (before she converted) and her mother were very intuitive. My mom found that she was able to make a table levitate. One day, she did this while alone, asking about the fate of a deceased young man whom she had admired in life. The table suddenly was “pushed” into her stomach with great force. She never tried anything like this again.

As fish90 pointed out, souls are immediately judged and go to one of three “places” upon death. There are no “ghosts” haunting anywhere; spirits that infest areas are demons. There are multiple reasons why they might want to infest, or “haunt”, a place; one reason might be to tempt people’s curiosity so that it will lead them into the demon-infested area and thus danger. This may be why they seem to enjoy appearing as “ghosts”, and by doing so they definitely draw many people to them. Those without grace (probably the majority of those interested in ghosts) basically have no defenses.

I disagree. Has it occurred to you that the spiritual realm is not “somewhere else”, but superimposed over our own level of existence? I believe that, as Jesus said, heaven is within us and all around us. The same, I believe, is true of purgatory and, to a lesser extent, hell (because the effects of demons are greatly restricted by God’s mercy). I am not saying that we should feel free to pursue apparitions. I am only saying that I do believe that God allows the souls of deceased persons to be made apparent to us here on earth from time-to-time for some reasons unknown to us. When such apparitions occur in one’s own home or in the home of a relative, this can hardly be cause for blaming the witness - much less for condemning them as being “without grace”. So I think that last statement above is quite judgmental and personal opinion.

It isn’t uncommon for demons to be able to infest an area where great evil has happened, since by the act or acts that occurred the evil was invited. Visiting such an area can only be dangerous. To go to such a place may even be on a similar level as to take part in some occult practice such as tarot card reading, since going there out of curiosity is almost as close as one can get to an invitation to the demons present. If it is comparable, it would pose a similar risk of inviting demonic activity into one’s own life as do occult practices. I don’t think it would be quite as dangerous as taking part in a seance out of curiosity, for instance, but it may be close, and I wouldn’t suggest taking the risk.

I agree with your first statements about demonic activity. However, your statements are too broad. I visited “such an area” when I was only a girl and visiting with my grandmother. I was always very nervous and uncomfortable whenever I had to use the bathroom upstairs because my eyes would invariably be drawn to a door there which led to the attic. Years later, my mom told me of some unexplained incidents which also occurred while she lived there in her youth. Then she told me that much later in her life she learned that a man had committed suicide by hanging in that attic.

Now, was he the cause of the discomfort? Or was it a demon? Who can say? But I do believe it is true that evil persists where evil has occurred and is not something we should play with.

As an example, one might bring a cursed item out of curiosity into their home. This can lead to demonic infestation of the home, and no amount of prayer will cause it to leave due to the presence of the cursed item (and this is the least dangerous aspect of having the item there).

“A cursed item”?? Please explain the source of this information! Do we, as Catholics, believe in cursed items? I have never, in all my life as a Catholic, heard of such a thing!

Similarly, one probably can’t much expect to go to an area infested by demons and be able to pray and toss holy water around for protection. What is needed is for a priest to bless or exorcise the area and get rid of anything that might have caused the infestation in the first place if such a thing exists. Grace protects Catholics to an extent, but God will sometimes allow one who has invited evil into their lives (whether through curiosity, sin, etc.) to be affected by it (he respects our free will, after all).

There you go again: “one who has invited evil into their lives”! This is not always the case with supernatural events. For instance, when my first son was only two, our home was haunted. I experienced some suspicious events myself, but I was convinced when our son began to report seeing “a man on the wall” and repeating what he had said to him (“Howdy, cowboy!”) Later, sitting in his highchair for dinner, he asked us about the man and woman standing in our adjacent living room. When I asked him what they were saying, he told us, “What is that boy doing here?” Hardly something a 2-yr. old would imagine!

Subsequently, I invited our local Monsignor to bless our home. I put St. Benedict medals under all our mattresses and, very soon, the incidents stopped. Btw, our next door neighbor also later told me that her little girl had also often complained about a man in her room (which was directly opposite our bedrooms).

So…bottom line…I do not believe that all apparitions are demonic, but that some are deceased persons or an “energy field” they left behind. Why God allows some to witness these events is beyond our comprehension. However, I would not dare to blame the witnesses as being “without grace”. Such events may well be no more than a personal trial allowed by God. I don’t know if it would be sinful in itself to go “ghost-hunting”. However, I do think that there is a certain amount of danger involved, so one would be responsible for accepting that danger. The greatest danger would be in becoming too fascinated by things supernatural (as my mom once innocently did) and in the possibility of subsequently allowing oneself to be drawn into the occult, relying more on things like horoscopes or seances rather than appealing to God’s help and mercy. The danger is real. However, our understanding of what actually comprises these supernatural events is very limited.

It’s probably best to simply stay away. I know that I have been tempted to do similar things in the past, but I stamped that out after thinking about it a bit more.
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On that point, you are probably quite right!
 
I don’t know whether the “ghosts” are of dead humans or of devils. However, I think we need to act prudently. We are told in the bible that the devil is a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. We need to stay aware from him. To me going to such a place is like going into a pit where there might be nonpoisonous snakes or there might be cobra snakes, but you think it doesn’t matter because you have anti-venom just in case. Why not make a visit to a church where Jesus is truly present in the Blessed Sacrament? Why not read the Bible trying to be open to the Holy Spirit Who can speak to you directly? After our deaths we will find out the truth about such places. It is dangerous spiritually to be too interested and involved in occult things.
 
It is always best to give it to God in Jesus’ name if you don’t understand or fear something-…God does allow loved ones in spirit to come through to comfort us-when you pray add I only accept spiritually what comes through God’s Love- anything else must leave… and then lose the fear - you are in good hands…I just want to say to those of you speaking of demons etc- stop now- be aware of them but don’t give them recognition and do not speak of any by name-they only have power in your life- if you give it to them…God Bless
 
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