Gingrich: GOP ‘Incapable Of Competing’ Against Hillary Clinton In 2016

[NeedsMercy]

**Irrelevant ** at any rate. Death penalty issues are state not federal. The GOP would be wasting its time on a non-issue.

wow.

 

[qui_est_ce]

This guy could compete (I am beginning to really like him):

dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=42E5FB80-EEE8-4AC4-9F33-7670E6560890

We need strong leaders to stand up to Obama and to stand up for us. Not everybody believes Obama’s ways are good for our country, and he needs to understand that.

 

[ProVobis]

This guy could compete (I am beginning to really like him):

dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=42E5FB80-EEE8-4AC4-9F33-7670E6560890

He’s just another Keynsian. Dime a dozen.

What’s needed is to keep where it is or LOWER the debt ceiling, forcing the government onto a hard-asset standard, like gold, silver, or platinum. (The 14th Amendment was enacted when gold was still the standard.) When the government is put into a position where it actually has to give up something to pay off its debts then it will begin to deal more responsibly. IOW, reverse what Nixon did in 1971.

The alternative is to depend on the trust people place on the freely-printed U.S. dollar. When that goes, the superpower status goes.

 

[austenbosten]

austenbosten, not that I disagree here but how does this show it’s not intrinsically evil? The Church at one time burned heretics inter alia and now they’re saying they were legitimate? Do they still recognize those as “certain circumstances” because of identity concerns? I’m a little confused here.

Well it’s a quote from Archbishop Chaput and the first part is Church teaching “Capital Punishment is not intrinsically evil” the rest is his personal opinion.

CCC

2267 Assuming that the guilty party’s identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor. (2306)

If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people’s safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and more in conformity with the dignity of the human person.

Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm—without definitively taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself—the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity “are very rare, if not practically non-existent.”68

The question remains, are the non-lethal means sufficient? I however do not think it is. Sure crime has gone down…but the depravity of violent crime has gotten worse. We are seeing more Mass shootings, more grotesque murders and beatings and rapings.

However I still have issues with it, because (which is why I am thankful the Church is not dogmatic on this) I feel abolishing Capital Punishment treats the criminal as something more than a human and in my view diminishes the dignity of human life, when a violent serial rapist and murderer gets the same treatment as a thief, or someone who kills one person gets life and another who murders dozens upon dozens in a grotesque manner gets the same…it is immoral to me.