Giving up...going to hell?

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I really don’t know if my words can help you, but whether they do or not, i’ll keep you in my prayers as well,

First of all, the world is in the terrible state it is because of us, because of sin, because not enough people are praying or working for the salvation of souls,
and who’s fault is it that there is not enough prayer or work? no one but ours, because God has warned us over and over and over…
and even though we do not listen, He hasn’t given up on us, although you know well that anyone else by now would have.

and tell me, what would you have God do? if you think God isn’t doing things right, then what would you do about it?

and if you think suffering is the problem, you’re way off…the problem is sin, sin is what sends souls to hell, suffering instead is the solution, it’s Gods mercy, because if there is no suffering, then no one will think of the consequences, and no one will fear hell…don’t you know that you only fear hell because you know pain? you’ve had three children, so you know that babies run around living on the edge fearing nothing…the reason is because they don’t know the suffering and consequences certain things bring,

and then of course by our sufferings we make reparation for our sins and the sins of others,
and by our sufferings we can unite ourselves with Jesus crucified, no one suffered more than Jesus, because He loves us so infinitely, more than you can imagine, and not just that, but He took on the guilt of every sin ever committed…just imagine, some have been driven to insanity by the guilt they suffered for various sins, and yet Jesus took on all of them, the ones known and unknown, the mortal and the venial, and He did it all for love of us,
do you really think God doesn’t care about our needs? of course He does! but He cares more about what’s most important, nothing matters more than our immortal souls…we will all die some day, the world will end some day, but our souls will live forever…wouldn’t you put more importance on the eternal rather than the temporary?
now, that doesn’t mean God cares less for our needs on earth, but simply that the things we go through here are a means and a preparation for the next life,
you say “our journey here is ridiculously pointless”…but would you rather choose like the angels did? they only had one chance, and then they were either in heaven or in hell…but we get so many chances!
they only chose between loving or rejecting God, but think how much more we deserve hell then they do, because we crucified God Himself!
we complain of suffering, and yet who suffered more than God? as if we were saying “Jesus, You suffer for me, but i won’t suffer for you…but let me into heaven anyways!”…
we do not deserve heaven, God owes us nothing! we deserve hell, but He offers us heaven! He offers us every means of getting there…but for some reason that’s not enough, we are impatient, we want to be happy now, and we will settle for this minute happiness on earth at the risk of losing our eternal happiness forever…
we are so ungrateful to God, He loves us with an infinite love, a selfless love, He thinks only of us, never of Himself!..but we say, “No God, love me this way!”…God can only love us with true love, and not our distorted and misunderstood view of what love is…
 
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We get angry with God because He does not do things our way, because He does not meet our demands…as if we know better than God.
God has the power to cast us into hell at any time, but look how patient He is with you, you know it’s wrong to be angry with Him and have this cynical attitude with Him, but your still alive, that is proof enough that God loves you and is being patient with you, and that He will forgive you.
God owes us nothing, we owe Him everything, but everything we have is from Him…so what can we give Him that is worth anything?..only our love and our will,
God doesn’t “interfere” with our free will, but that only means He has given us the choice of loving or rejecting Him, but that doesn’t mean He can’t have our free will, you can give it to Him,
and after all, if we did not have a free will, then we could not truly love God,
because true love is something given, not taken, true love is completely selfless, and if God took it, then it wouldn’t be true love, because that is contrary to God Who is love itself.

The suffering going on right now will not last forever, and our world will not remain in the state it is forever, we are told that someday the Holy Ghost will “Renew the face of the earth”…and although you can’t see what God has in store for us right now, that doesn’t mean He’s not working towards that goal.
God knows what He’s doing, He doesn’t have to answer to you or do things on your time, you need to stop being bitter and start worrying about what you can do to help, start doing your part, every little bit of help counts, and if you’re not doing your part to serve God and help save souls, then you are only adding to the very problem you are complaining about…God’s not asking you to save the world, the world is in His hands, and for that you should be grateful, because just imagine how unbearable things would be if the world was in your hands…chances are, the world wouldn’t even be here anymore…

you want things done your way, and so when you don’t get what you want out of mass and prayer, you consider them useless…but God is only going to help you in a way that will save your soul, you cannot see the results of certain things that may have been the cause of yours or someone elses ruin, and so you just need to trust that God knows what He is doing,
and although you may think the mass is useless, do you also think Jesus’ passion was useless? which is the very same sacrifice given at each mass,
without the passion of Christ, you could not even hope for heaven…you have so much to be grateful for, but you seem to only see the bad side to things…

God sees the suffering in the world, much more than you do, and He is much more outraged by it than you, and He IS doing something about it, maybe not what we would have Him do, but why should God do things our way? when we’re the ones who started this mess in the first place…

But anyways…you know God loves you…even if you can’t admit it to yourself, you know deep down in your heart that He really does, and although you may not return to Him for a long time…He will wait for you, so even if you’re angry with God now, just remember that if you ever have a change of heart, don’t despair, because He will take you back, He longs to have you again, and He thinks constantly of you…

well, i’m sorry if i made that to long, but i hope it helps, take care, and i will be praying for you.
 
scrappymom said:
I still find the thought of leaving this world behind such a better alternative than remaining here for God only knows how long…
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That line stood out to me. What do you mean “leaving this world behind” exactly? DON’T DO IT. YOU CAN’T TAKE IT BACK. YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS LOVE YOU, AND GOD GAVE YOU THE GIFT OF LIFE.
 
scrappymom said:
I am one of probably millions who are so weary with all of the suffering in the world. I am a cradle catholic, who used to have such a strong faith that God was in control. As a married 50 year old mother of three children, (two are in college, one is still years away from that), I never really questioned this.
Now, I find I am either weary, disgusted, angry, or just plain frustrated with God. There are various things going on in my life that I will not go into, but they are all contributing factors to my frustration and separation from God. I continue attending mass for my child’s sake, otherwise I would consider it a huge waste of time. I think our journey here is ridiculously pointless. Yes God is in control, and as you can see by our fallen world, he is doing one hell of a bang up job. There are only two reasons why I am still here: my children and my fear of hell. Yes, I am receiving counseling, and am being treated for depression.
I know all about the teaching of the church and that God will not interfere with our “free will”. How very swell of him. Hopefully I will get the chance to thank him. But from the attitude I am portraying, it is unlikely.
I hope someone can send me a lifeline. I try to pray, but of course, I find that pointless, as well, because I know God will give us what we need, whether we want it or not. And yes, I pray that my attitude about prayer will change.
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I’m gonna send you Hope and Strength right over the internet here. You know what my friend, I fully understand your feeling. I understand how decades of darkness can engulf an individuals Souls.

Those with the deepest Faith get to bear the most difficult Trails. Just a fact of this Faith. Believe it of not, it just shows you how much faith the Lord has in you. He wouldn’t put you where you are if he didn’t believe in you. There no mystery to it. I could tell you a fact. Pray the Rosary and you’ll see the darkness disappear. Go to confession and it will also disappear. If you doubt me just try it. Your covered by Gods hand and don’t realize it.

Its a Spiritual Battle which requires more Spiritual intercession.

Like you I have been at this for many years and was born into generations of deep followers. And what I’ve found is Our Lord comes when you least expect it. Or he sends someone. What you don’t realize is just how much you’ve been Blessed. When life seems unbearable which it easily can, look around and count your Blessings.

Don’t forget all those with no one to Pray for them who have little Hope.

Prayers are with ya,
God Bless, Gary
 
Sometimes a medical condition, such as clinical depression, is the problem, and that can be treated and managed in ways your therapist and doctor know. Sometimes sin, such as contraception, is the problem, and that can be dealt with in ways that everybody here knows. But the nonsense of blaming God for everything bad in your life and in the world is never the problem, always a symptom.

But I have learned that cynical threats like “Bet no one even wants to touch this one” are red flags that a poster is out to manipulate people, and that’s why I put off responding until this evening. I have learned that such red flags go hand-in-hand with pointless arguments that usually take the form of the poster shooting down every single piece of advice offered by the forum community - so much so that I sometimes I wonder what the *real *purpose of the original post was in the first place.

So do you want to talk about it or what, Scrappymom? I should be around for about a half hour.
 
Apollos said:
But I have learned that cynical threats like “Bet no one even wants to touch this one” are red flags that a poster is out to manipulate people, and that’s why I put off responding until this evening. I have learned that such red flags go hand-in-hand with pointless arguments that usually take the form of the poster shooting down every single piece of advice offered by the forum community - so much so that I sometimes I wonder what the *real *purpose of the original post was in the first place.

So do you want to talk about it or what, Scrappymom? I should be around for about a half hour.
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I think that it’s always a good idea to not assume anything about people’s motives online (or otherwise). A person might say “bet no one even wants to touch this one” because they are in pain, not because they want to manipulate anyone. I don’t think I’ve ever met a person online who was pretending to look for help so they can be manipulative. The only “fake” people I’ve seen have been trolls, or people who pretend to ask a question about Catholicism and then try to ‘evangelize’ us in their replies. Also, someone could actually disagree with the advice given on a thread, and if the advice is good and they disagree, maybe that’s because of a misunderstanding or because they are in pain. It does not necessarily mean they have a different motive. I’m just saying this because I’ve seen accusations like this before at CAF, and a few of them have been towards me, and they weren’t accurate. I’m not targeting you in particular.

God bless
 
Apollos, how could you assume such a thing? :mad:

If you come onto these forums suspicious of everyone’s motives, then you will not be as charitable as you ought to be. Like RIGHT NOW, for instance. Sure, people will come on just to cause disruption and some will actually want to have a discussion. And many will come on for prayers and support. It is not our job to pick out the ones who are real and who are spamming, but only to let OUR posts reflect the love and compassion of our Savior. Because everyone has the same Savior and just Judge.

If your thoughts resemble your last post, please keep them to yourself next time.
PM me if you would like to talk, b/c I don’t want this conversation to continue on this thread. Thank you & God bless.
 
scrappymom said:
I am always aware in my sufferings of the many more who suffer infinitely more than I. This realization only serves to leave me with a sense of shame that I am wallowing in my own self-pity, while knowing others are much worse off than myself.
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No no no. Don’t do that. I used to think this way, back when I was an atheist, and it is completely pointless and has nothing at all to do with Christianity.

The fact is that suffering is personal. We can’t really compare suffering. One person may have terrible circumstances in their life, and yet another person whose outward circumstances appear to be fine may be suffering spiritually to a far greater degree than the other. Jesus suffered infinitely more than any other person who ever lived - but the greatest of his sufferings were spiritual, not physical.

What you are coming up against right now is the mystery of suffering, which to me is also the mystery of the whole Christian faith. CONGRATULATIONS! This is what it’s about. God is giving you the opportunity to come nearer to him.

As St. Teresa of Avila said, “Blessed be He who came into this world for no other reason than to suffer.” God allows us to suffer - but can we blame Him, when He chose suffering for Himself? Faith tells me that suffering is a far greater good than I could ever imagine now.

My advice: pray the rosary - the Sorrowful Mysteries. Meditate on the Passion. Go to Mass during the week, every day if you can.

This is an invitation.
 
“I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.” (Romans 8:18)

“So we do not lose heart. Though our outer man is wasting away, our inner man is being renewed every day. For this slight momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, because we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen; for the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal” (2 Cor. 4:16-18).
 
You need a Pedicure and Manicure and Massage! 😉

I am praying for you.

You are a beautiful creation of God and he doesn’t want you in hell.

So … everyone who even glances at this thread … say a prayer right now for this Daughter of the King !!

Amen!
 
***Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen. ***
 
With regards to the depression, has your doctor checked your Vitamin D level? Many people are walking around with low D-levels and physicians aren’t thinking to check it. If low, it can cause depression. So can low thyroid levels.

Setting that aside, if you are suffering from depression from any number of causes, God, in His mercy, knows this.

That having been said, we never stop trying to deal with the stones, pebbles and boulders put in our path.

Despair is something you do not want to give into. I would find a priest to speak with, to supplement any other professional help you may be getting. The professional can’t deal with the spiritual end of things.

Consider reading these books by Fr. Benedict Groeschel, who is not only a wonderful friar, but a pyschologist.
Pray daily the Act of Faith, Act of Hope, and Act of Love

I will remember you in my daily Mass tomorrow.
 
I hope these words may bring enlightment to you in whatever you face in this life.God loves you,thats why he sent his son to die for you.

Matthew 11:28-30

“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

Also,here’s a video you might want to watch…

youtube.com/watch?v=1ZN8HQ8vKNE

John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
 
scrappymom said:
I am one of probably millions who are so weary with all of the suffering in the world. I am a cradle catholic, who used to have such a strong faith that God was in control. As a married 50 year old mother of three children, (two are in college, one is still years away from that), I never really questioned this.
Now, I find I am either weary, disgusted, angry, or just plain frustrated with God. There are various things going on in my life that I will not go into, but they are all contributing factors to my frustration and separation from God. I continue attending mass for my child’s sake, otherwise I would consider it a huge waste of time. I think our journey here is ridiculously pointless. Yes God is in control, and as you can see by our fallen world, he is doing one hell of a bang up job. There are only two reasons why I am still here: my children and my fear of hell. Yes, I am receiving counseling, and am being treated for depression.
I know all about the teaching of the church and that God will not interfere with our “free will”. How very swell of him. Hopefully I will get the chance to thank him. But from the attitude I am portraying, it is unlikely.
I hope someone can send me a lifeline. I try to pray, but of course, I find that pointless, as well, because I know God will give us what we need, whether we want it or not. And yes, I pray that my attitude about prayer will change.
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Reading between the lines, and not having read what others have posted, I’ll put my two bob’s worth in.

First of all I get the impression that the real bug-bear in your life is your own personal suffering, whatever it happens to be - marital, health, financial, your children and their problems? We don’t know because you haven’t told us. But while things were going reasonably well you didn’t question these things. But now the suffering is close to home, whatever it is, you’ve started to become aware of the suffering which goes on all the time in many parts of the world.

I would therefore suggest you get hold of CS Lewis “The Problem of Pain”, from your library if you don’t wish to buy it.

I’ll put in an excerpt of one paragraph.

From “Chapter 7, Human Pain Continued … 2. If tribulation is a necessary element in redemption, we must anticipate it will never cease till God sees the world to be either redeemed or no longer redeemable. A Christian cannot, therefore, believe any of those who promise that if only some reform in our economic, political, or hygenic system were made, a heaven on earth would follow. This might seem to have a discouraging effect on the social worker, but it is not found in practice to discourage him. On the contrary, a strong sense of our common miseries, simply as men, is at least as good a spur to the removal of all the miseries we can, as any of those wild hopes which tempt man to seek their realisation by breaking the moral law and prove such dust and ashes when they are realised. If applied to individual life, the doctrine that an imagined heaven on earth is necessary for vigorous attempts to remove present evil, would at once reveal its absurdity. Hungry men seek food and sick men healing none the less because they know that after the meal or the cure the ordinary ups and downs of life still await them. I am not, of course, discussing whether very drastic changes in our social system are, or are not, desirable; I am only reminding the reader that a particular medicine is not to be mistaken for the elixir of life.”

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You might think that’s too academic to apply to the real and practical problems confronting you. But I also wonder how much attention you paid to the the theological problem of suffering until it began to hit home? Is there any possibility you might need to broaden your own viewpoint on the matter?
 
scrappymom said:
I am one of probably millions who are so weary with all of the suffering in the world. I am a cradle catholic, who used to have such a strong faith that God was in control. As a married 50 year old mother of three children, (two are in college, one is still years away from that), I never really questioned this.
Now, I find I am either weary, disgusted, angry, or just plain frustrated with God. There are various things going on in my life that I will not go into, but they are all contributing factors to my frustration and separation from God. I continue attending mass for my child’s sake, otherwise I would consider it a huge waste of time. I think our journey here is ridiculously pointless. Yes God is in control, and as you can see by our fallen world, he is doing one hell of a bang up job. There are only two reasons why I am still here: my children and my fear of hell. Yes, I am receiving counseling, and am being treated for depression.
I know all about the teaching of the church and that God will not interfere with our “free will”. How very swell of him. Hopefully I will get the chance to thank him. But from the attitude I am portraying, it is unlikely.
I hope someone can send me a lifeline. I try to pray, but of course, I find that pointless, as well, because I know God will give us what we need, whether we want it or not. And yes, I pray that my attitude about prayer will change.
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Scrappy Mom, I’m with you. I’m the 56 y/o father of two sons, the younger of which is multiple disabilities. I too have swallowed more anti-depressants and spilled my guts to more counselors than “Van Kamp has beans” as my mother used to say. I am disgusted with many Church leaders, some times including the Pope. I go to church for my family’s sake. My older son wants to be a priest and I think that’s wonderful for him and I support him on that. My younger son sees no evidence of God and I leave trying to convince him otherwise to his mother. When I die, I am certain that God the strict-constructionist GOP judge will toss my sorry hide into hell. I am not looking forward to that. But there is a certain peace of mind in knowing what the outcome is already.
 
man, that is really sad that you feel you are going to hell already.

I thought christ was supposed to give us hope!
 
Sonny1954 said:
Scrappy Mom, I’m with you. I’m the 56 y/o father of two sons, the younger of which is multiple disabilities. I too have swallowed more anti-depressants and spilled my guts to more counselors than “Van Kamp has beans” as my mother used to say. I am disgusted with many Church leaders, some times including the Pope. I go to church for my family’s sake. My older son wants to be a priest and I think that’s wonderful for him and I support him on that. My younger son sees no evidence of God and I leave trying to convince him otherwise to his mother. When I die, I am certain that God the strict-constructionist GOP judge will toss my sorry hide into hell. I am not looking forward to that. But there is a certain peace of mind in knowing what the outcome is already.
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God is not going to send you to hell, and He is not the kind of judge you think He is,
My friend, God loves you so much, He does not want to see you go to hell, but He won’t force you into heaven either,
heaven is the place people go to love God for eternity, and that is something *you *choose,
if you don’t love God or don’t want to love Him, then you will not want to go to heaven, and if you were forced there, it would be like a hell for you to,

You do not have to be miserable or angry, you do not have to suffer against your will,
if you accept your sufferings and offer them up and just trust in God, you can have peace and joy always,
the only reason we may feel empty inside or depressed all the time is because we really are lacking something that we need,
of course we try to fill that empty space inside with things like money, toys, games, tv, sex, drugs, alcohol, etc.
but as anyone who has tried seeking happiness in those things knows, they do not fill you, they only leave you more empty and depressed than before,
but there is one thing that can fill you and satisfy you fully, the saints found it, and we can see from what great joy and peace that they had, that there is no doubt that it is true,
and of course the thing that fills us and satisfies us so completely, is God Himself.

everyone must suffer in this life, whether they believe in God or not, but as St. Alphonsus de Liguori says - ‘He who suffers in patience, surfers less and saves his soul. He who suffers impatiently, suffers more and loses his soul.’
by accepting and offering up our sufferings, we suffer less, and we can have peace and joy even amidst our sufferings,

but why is there suffering in the first place? well…first of all, because of sin, when sin entered the world, so did suffering…but it was not merely as a punishment, God allowed suffering to come into the world as a remedy for sin, because as we can see from the lives of the saints, by suffering bodily and mortifying our senses, the body becomes subject to the soul, and the soul is free to reach high levels of sanctity, and be reformed into what it was meant to be before sin entered the world.

and why did God allow sin to enter the world at all? well, sin is something that occurs where God is not, it is a lack of God, and it is what we commit when we choose to reject God, even if only some of the time or in small ways,
so sin, being a lack of God, is the choice we have as opposed to accepting God, and in order to actually be free to choose God, there needs to be something to choose between, and that is what sin is, sin is the proof of our freedom…although, it is not the ultimate proof of our freedom, because even if we sin, that doesn’t ensure that we won’t go to heaven, since we are all sinners, and as we know there are many people in heaven,
so, the ultimate proof of our freedom is actually hell, because if there is a hell, then we have a choice not to go to heaven, but if there were no hell, then we would have no choice…

the reason God has made things this way, although i can’t say that i even understand Gods wisdom, but as far as i do understand it, He made things this way simply because of love, and because He is love, so all things work according to His nature, which He cannot change or contradict,
love is something given, it can never be taken from you or forced on you, because then it just isn’t love at all!
and because love is something given, and God is love, so God wanted someone to give His love to, it is simply His nature, love must be spread, it cannot be contained,
and as we know, Jesus did not just poor out a little blood, or a lot, He pored it all out! every last drop for us! God keeps nothing for Himself, He has pored out His heart completely, that is love, selfless, God thinks only of us, never of Himself, that is why He gave every last drop in His passion, love could not act otherwise,

…and so you know God loves you, and really the only thing stopping you from having God completely, is you, you have the ability to trust Him and accept Him and whatever He allows for the good of your soul, nothing is stopping you from getting to heaven and loving God, there is no excuse, because all you have to do is let go, and let God catch you…

well…i’ve made this a bit longer than i meant to, i hope you don’t mind…but i hope i have helped you understand Gods love a little more,
but even if not, i will pray for you and your children,
and the one who wants to be a priest, if you wouldn’t mind, show him this order - fssp.com

ok, hope this helps, take care.
 
scrappymom said:
I am one of probably millions who are so weary with all of the suffering in the world. I am a cradle catholic, who used to have such a strong faith that God was in control. As a married 50 year old mother of three children, (two are in college, one is still years away from that), I never really questioned this.
Now, I find I am either weary, disgusted, angry, or just plain frustrated with God. There are various things going on in my life that I will not go into, but they are all contributing factors to my frustration and separation from God. I continue attending mass for my child’s sake, otherwise I would consider it a huge waste of time. I think our journey here is ridiculously pointless. Yes God is in control, and as you can see by our fallen world, he is doing one hell of a bang up job. There are only two reasons why I am still here: my children and my fear of hell. Yes, I am receiving counseling, and am being treated for depression.
I know all about the teaching of the church and that God will not interfere with our “free will”. How very swell of him. Hopefully I will get the chance to thank him. But from the attitude I am portraying, it is unlikely.
I hope someone can send me a lifeline. I try to pray, but of course, I find that pointless, as well, because I know God will give us what we need, whether we want it or not. And yes, I pray that my attitude about prayer will change.
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I haven’t read though all the responses for this but I felt moved to tell you your not alone. I’m a Catholic convert that is dealing with major issues myself with God and my life. I’ve been abused in many different ways (physically, emotionally, and sexually assaulted) and I can see how we would want to throw the nastiness of the world back onto God’s shoulders but I want to give you hope. I also am currently in counseling and am dealing with major depression issues that I’ve been advised to get on medication and will probably get on soon.

I wanted to give you hope in that even though there is suffering God is there. A lot of the time I go back and forth with my depression at one moment feeling and understanding God is there but when my feelings are bad and I feel depressed all I can look at in this world is the hate and the hurt and then I’m left more depressed then when I started. I know how you must feel lost, confused, mad, and angry at God. I found that I personally have a tendency to want to shout at Him and tell Him to just take the suffering away because I’m far to weak to handle it. But there is hope in the scriptures -

[BIBLEDRB]1 Corinthians 10:13 [/BIBLEDRB]

those words bring me major peace and comfort because God will never let us suffer to a point that we can’t handle. Instead of looking at it as why is God letting all this happen picture God taking each and every moment that we are going to pass though and think of Him making sure that each and every detail is enough for us to handle. Each moment He gives us is another chance to grow closer to Him. He’s given us this day and every day that we live as another opportunity to grow closer to Him and to learn to love more. Then picture Him with His hands out waiting for you to call on Him waiting for you to ask Him to help you. I’ve found that when your the lowest you can be, face flat on the ground curled in a ball crying your eyes out because the depression is so bad that is when we do the only logical thing we can. You can either keep crying or we look up, we can see our Savior, our Father waiting right there to heal us and the help us stand.

My most favorite verse is this

Proverbs 3:5-6 (New International Version)

5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.[a]

Place your heart is the Fathers hand. He is patient, loving, and kind. He gave us a lifetime to understand Him not a day and each moment, not just day or month or year, but each moment he is calling us to come closer to Him and ask for His loving protection. No matter how old you are we can all cry out to our Father in Heaven and just shout His name and like the good father He is He will hold us close and help us though everything.

I hope that you grow closer to God each passing day. Keep the faith and go with God. You will be in my prayers.

Taylor
 
Sonny1954 said:
Scrappy Mom, I’m with you. I’m the 56 y/o father of two sons, the younger of which is multiple disabilities. I too have swallowed more anti-depressants and spilled my guts to more counselors than “Van Kamp has beans” as my mother used to say. I am disgusted with many Church leaders, some times including the Pope. I go to church for my family’s sake. My older son wants to be a priest and I think that’s wonderful for him and I support him on that. My younger son sees no evidence of God and I leave trying to convince him otherwise to his mother. When I die, I am certain that God the strict-constructionist GOP judge will toss my sorry hide into hell. I am not looking forward to that. But there is a certain peace of mind in knowing what the outcome is already.
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Why do you see God as the “strict-constructionist GOP judge”? How do you know how God judges? I think the enemy is tempting you to despair and you are not even resisting 😦 the truth is that we CHOOSE where we go… if we choose to repent of our sins, God forgives us and we can go to Heaven. If we choose to not repent, we are blocking His forgiveness, which He WANTS to give us. The choice is up to you. If you repent and trust in His mercy, you will obtain it. Please read these quotes… this is what Jesus actually said. catholic-forum.com/churches/cathteach/divinemercy_Mercy.htm Here are more quotes from Divine Mercy in My Soul, about different topics: catholic-forum.com/churches/cathteach/divinemercy1.htm I’m sorry that you are suffering 😦 but try to understand God’s love for you because He loves you so much He died for you.

God bless :hug1:
 
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