Global Warming: On Hold?

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Most of the states in the Southwest get water from snow. CA gets water from the Sierra Nevada’s and the Colorado River (who’s source is in the Western Rocky Mountains in Colorado). Nevada gets water from the Sierra Nevada and the Colorado river and groundwater. Arizona gets water from the Colorado River, it’s own mountain snows and groundwater. Utah is in the great basin, it gets its water from it’s own mountains. New Mexico gets run off from the Rocky Mountains, and it’s own mountains and ground water.
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Great Lakes pact
A good agreement that will help the region
SUNDAY, OCTOBER 5, 2008
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On Friday (10/03/08,) President Bush signed the Great Lakes Compact, an agreement between eight states and two Canadian provinces to strengthen protections of the five Great Lakes, their connecting channels and the St. Lawrence River.
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The compact has been a work in progress for nearly a decade. It protects Great Lakes water from being diverted elsewhere in the United States or abroad.
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It also “will provide sustainable use and responsible management of waters from the Great Lakes Basin and will preserve the Great Lakes for the benefit and enjoyment of present and future generations,” in the words of James L. Connaughton, chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality.
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The lakes contain 20 percent of the world’s fresh surface water. They are worth protecting and preserving. The next step is for states to establish programs to manage and conserve water.
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This is a worthy agreement in the region’s best interests.
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I know that it sounds protectionist, but, if we could only be protectionist in other matters, IYKWIM … I’m conservative and a protectionist wanna-be. This means looking back on history for advice, and protecting the present, for the future.

Glad to know that there is water enough in the states you mentioned. I thought that you might, rather, be interested in the ice floe that broke off.
 
I’ve never seen anything quite like this in my now 40 years in Washington.
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One of the predictions of the climate models is more precipitation at higher latitudes. The current warming indicates we can probably expect more snow in future years for the northern tier of states.

January, in spite of a La Nina, and a sunspot minimum, is the fifth hottest January on record. That’s cause for concern.
 
I think you’re far too concerned about the politics, and not nearly concerned enough about the reality. Politically incorrect though it might be, warming continues. The consequences probably won’t threaten mankind, but it will bring some rather uncomfortable realities for those in the American West and the Gulf Coast.

Some countries might even improve with the warming trend. It won’t pay any attention to your political concerns.
 
It should be enough to notice as I have over the past few week that the talking heads have ceased calling it ‘global warming’ and have begun to change it to ‘climate change’.

It is simply one of the biggest frauds in history.
 
Oren said:
It should be enough to notice as I have over the past few week that the talking heads have ceased calling it ‘global warming’ and have begun to change it to ‘climate change’.

It is simply one of the biggest frauds in history.
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That way they can cause panic and crisis no matter which way it goes since they will always be right since the climate is constantly changing. The relativism theses “scientists” are showing make what they do no longer belongs in the realm of science.
 
Yes climate changes but what people need to realize is it just doesn;t change for no reason. There has to be a “forcing” of some sort. It can;t just go gee I want to be warmer or gee I want to rain more…and just do so…
 
The_Barbarian said:
January, in spite of a La Nina, and a sunspot minimum, is the fifth hottest January on record. That’s cause for concern.
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In 1975, for Speech 101, my topic was the ozone hole problem. serc.carleton.edu/eet/ozonehole/case_study.html Note “skin cancer and cataracts.” Does anyone remember when sunglasses were for the beach, only? Now it is 15 minutes of sun in the spring, daily, (but only between 2 and 4); so that one is ready for the summer.

Don’t kid me about our industry not having an affect on the earth’s environment! Even the dumbest kids around said that Lake Erie was dead. Oh, it has been brought back, and we are eating the fish out of it … for a few years … worryingly. The beaches, not as deep as they had been, with dead fish and mossy bottom to wade through. Without a close watch and respect for our planet … God gave man 120 years at the most, and Moses said that if one is strong, maybe a person can live 4 score years. People are dying between 50-70.

There is a lot of MS - multiple sclerosis and Parkinson’s Disease in adults from the age of 40! Suspicion falls on chemicals used in farming. People are suspicious of foods not having nutrients they once had.

Don’t tell me that global warming is a farce, when you now that we have nuclear waste that is 10 feet high in a football field size amount that is not being taken care of. When people live on flood plains … There is a whole lot of room for improvements. These improvements may be part of God’s plan to renew the planet. Think like a Franciscan, St. Francis was very close to God.
 
Someone posted that climate never changes unless it is ‘forced’. Are you kidding me?? You need to learn some basic science, big time.
Also, just because there are environmental problems, doesn’t mean that global warming…oh wait I mean global cooling…no no climate change…yeah that’s it…is real or manmade. It is political science, not real science.
 
I do not care so much whether we are warming or not. I have never seen any evidence that warmer temperatures are harmful. In fact, in past geological eras, warming lead to greater biodiversity and an explosion of life. Despite how much global warming priests insist we look at the big picture, they refuse to do so, choosing to focus always on those areas which will suffer during this warming trend.
 
ohioszo said:
Don’t tell me that global warming is a farce, when you now that we have nuclear waste that is 10 feet high in a football field size amount that is not being taken care of.
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This is a new one… How does nuclear waste affect global warming?
 
A favorite AGW talking point has been predictions of disastrous effects on the US Great Lakes. A continuous stream of warnings has been written about declining water levels, drought and heat.
This morning the BBC reports that ice drifts coming off Lake Huron are damaging houses in Michigan.

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The_Barbarian said:
One of the predictions of the climate models is more precipitation at higher latitudes. The current warming indicates we can probably expect more snow in future years for the northern tier of states.
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La Nina would do that too, as would less solar activity. However we are not talking about more snow here. We are talking about the Great Lakes freezing over.

Global temps have stabilized the last 8 years, see:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=4922141&postcount=19
 
Wow. It appears that there is an ice bridge from the mainland to Isle Royale (the big island in the north central part oif the lake - part of Michigan)

I don’t think that has happened since 1948 when the wolves came over to join the moose. It is a very unusual event if a bridge has formed; maybe some deer or lynx will add themselves to the fauna on Royale.

I have friends who camp there - it’s an interesting ecosystem.
 
The_Barbarian said:
One of the predictions of the climate models is more precipitation at higher latitudes. The current warming indicates we can probably expect more snow in future years for the northern tier of states.

January, in spite of a La Nina, and a sunspot minimum, is the fifth hottest January on record. That’s cause for concern.
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What record?
 
Wildgraywolf said:
This is a new one… How does nuclear waste affect global warming?
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I meant that people are not considering enough, what our industry does to our environment. I had just read about the pile up of waste, since the site in Utah has not received funding. There will be more waste in the future, the football field 10’ deep is what there is now.

So, the topic is global warming due to the pollution that affects the layers of air above us. The result of pollution is the hole in the ozone layer and the particles in the air that soak up the heat and the heat energy the bounces back and forth, heating up the climates, making changes that increase the troubles of humans: Man-made climate changes. These changes can reach back to the industrial age, for that was a time of non-restriction on pollution output. Oh, don’t we have any information, facts and statistics, pre-industrial age? Read the first chapters of the book by John James Audubon, as he walked in the pre-industrial Ohio River area.

Environmental economics, science, philosophy, etc. can all contribute and it does seem right for our government to encourage the protection of this country for the future and to correct the errors of the past.

Now, scientists involved with manipulation and killing of human embryos for the benefit of other humans is the saddest part of scientific inquiry. Germany, has distanced itself from it and has accepted environmental science that contributes to the 'hands off people, hands on the country." A country knows what it should consider. Just because the global warming seems too wide a net, doesn’t mean that it is silly. I know that there is a conflict here, global this and global that … what is good global what is bad global, politically: I am against free trade agreements that hurt the people in our own country by preventing them from finding employment in manufacturing jobs; manufacturing is composed of people with talents in various ways of creating goods.
 
Originally Posted by The Barbarian forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_khaki/viewpost.gif
One of the predictions of the climate models is more precipitation at higher latitudes. The current warming indicates we can probably expect more snow in future years for the northern tier of states.

January, in spite of a La Nina, and a sunspot minimum, is the fifth hottest January on record. That’s cause for concern.
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stanmaxkolbe said:
What record?
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I think he’s talking about England. Hottest Jan since 1914 or something.
 
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