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And more about volcanos and climate realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/05/current-volcanic-activity-and-climate/
volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/index.php scroll down to the part about CO2
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volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/index.php scroll down to the part about CO2
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Arclight
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Remember, its too Hot I mean its too Cold. Whatever it is, we have to Do Something To Save The Planet Right Now. Then we can feel good about ourselves.
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Calliso
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I did find something that might sorta answer that question though not totally. scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2006/02/whats-wrong-with-warm-weather.php It appears the problem isn;t so much that the temperature is changing…whether it;s getting hotter or colder but the rate at which things are changing. But no if your looking for me or any actual scientist to tell you what an exact optimum temperature would be…you likely wonlt get it.
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Valke2
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And the sun revolves around the earth; and there are no hidden costs to burning oil; and there’s plenty of forest; and there’s plenty of clean water; and plenty of coral reefs; and lakes are not drying up; and 9 billion people will not be so bad; and there’s plenty of energy for everyone; and there’s no need to develop alternative fuel sources and we shouldn’t even worry about increasing energy efficiency.
Because the world is a trough and God has granted us unlimited access to the all you can burn buffet.
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I see. Global Warmin’ ™ has devolved into generic environmentalism. How many Carbon Credits ™ need I buy to assuage my guilt?
TRVTH be told, we don’t need cheap unlimited energy of any kind. That would turn the planet into a giant heat sink. We’d be a charred wasteland in a few hundred years.
But I don’t want to sidetrack this fascinating subject. Tell me what the suitable temperature increase is, assuming we can stop the runaway Warmin’ ™.
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Calliso
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Wait grapes donlt grow in England!? realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/11/english-vineyards-again/
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Arclight
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Are you denying the climate changes during medieval optimum, or the little ice age? or any of the other numerous examples of Climate Change ™ that had nothing to do with human activity?
Glad we got that straightened out.
To the thinking man…no.
Depends on whose opinion we follow.
Yours? Hubris again.
I don’t remember that in my bible.
Clearly you seem to have stumbled upon a new religion here.
Or did you mean to try to make a cheap mockery of those that do follow the Church?
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Wow Ender, you completely ignored the rest of my post. Here it is again;
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Calliso
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No I am not…I was just pointing out according to the sources I have read grapes are grown in England right now. Now if you have contrary evidence of course feel free to post it.
Now as for current and past climate change. ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/FAQ/wg1_faq-9.2.html the question being answered here is can the warming of the 20th century be explained by natural variablity?
And this is about if the current C02 concentrations are do to human activity or not. ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/FAQ/wg1_faq-7.1.html
ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/FAQ/wg1_faq-6.1.html
on climate change in the past.
And I have found more but that is enough for one post I think.
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ThomasB36
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- The Polar ice caps are melting and shrinking.
- Extinction of animals. Pollution is bad for your health.
- The temperature of the sun has not increased but the temperature on earth has. I think someone else posted the proof of this.
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mpi
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I agree with your post, assuming there is no sarcasm. Unfortunately I have read your previous posts so I know that you are being sarcastic.
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mpi
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I seriously have a hard time figuring out why this issue is being debated.
- The Polar ice caps are melting and shrinking.
- Extinction of animals. Pollution is bad for your health.
- The temperature of the sun has not increased but the temperature on earth has. I think someone else posted the proof of this.
- Polar ice caps have always gone through cycles of melting and shrinking.
- Climates have always changed and they have always caused both extinctions and new species to emerge. So what? CO2 does not cause health problems - not enviromarxist leftards believe that it does.
3.Someone else did not post proof of anything. They cited one study that looked at 30 years of data. Climate on Earth has a lot more data than that. Other studies show that other planets have warmed over the passt 30 years as well.
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mpi
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I do not like pollution. I do not believe that CO2 is pollution. I have been exposed to large levels of CO2 for over 30 years now and I have not experienced any deleterious health effects.So you think there is nothing wrong with pollution? I believe cancer is a cause of excessive pollution.
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Yes, I ignored the rest of your post because it had nothing whatever to do with the point being discussed which was whether or not polar bears have been affected by global warming. Someone challenged me on that point and I provided references supporting my claim - citations to a USGS study and the comments of a Canadian manager of wildlife resources.
The comments of the blogger who posted those citations are irrelevant. If those citations are valid then they support my position and they don’t become invalid simply because the blogger who posted them is biased.
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ThomasB36
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_bear
The polar bear (Ursus maritimus) is a bear native to the Arctic Ocean and its surrounding seas. The world’s largest predator found on land, an adult male weighs around 400–680 kg (880–1,500 lb),[3] while an adult female is about half that size. Although it is closely related to the brown bear, it has evolved to occupy a narrow ecological niche, with many body characteristics adapted for cold temperatures, for moving across snow, ice, and open water, and for hunting the seals which make up most of its diet.[4] As it can hunt consistently only from sea ice, the polar bear spends much of the year on the frozen sea, although most polar bears are born on land.
The polar bear is classified as a vulnerable species, with 5 of the 19 polar bear subpopulations in decline.[5][6] For decades, unrestricted hunting raised international concern for the future of the species; populations have rebounded after controls and quotas began to take effect. For thousands of years, the polar bear has been a key figure in the material, spiritual, and cultural life of Arctic indigenous peoples, and the hunting of polar bears remains important in their cultures.
The IUCN now lists global warming as the most significant threat to the polar bear, primarily because the melting of its sea ice habitat reduces its ability to find sufficient food. The IUCN states, “If climatic trends continue polar bears may become extirpated from most of their range within 100 years.”[1] On May 14, 2008, the United States Department of the Interior listed the polar bear as a threatened species under the Endangered Species Act.
The polar bear (Ursus maritimus) is a bear native to the Arctic Ocean and its surrounding seas. The world’s largest predator found on land, an adult male weighs around 400–680 kg (880–1,500 lb),[3] while an adult female is about half that size. Although it is closely related to the brown bear, it has evolved to occupy a narrow ecological niche, with many body characteristics adapted for cold temperatures, for moving across snow, ice, and open water, and for hunting the seals which make up most of its diet.[4] As it can hunt consistently only from sea ice, the polar bear spends much of the year on the frozen sea, although most polar bears are born on land.
The polar bear is classified as a vulnerable species, with 5 of the 19 polar bear subpopulations in decline.[5][6] For decades, unrestricted hunting raised international concern for the future of the species; populations have rebounded after controls and quotas began to take effect. For thousands of years, the polar bear has been a key figure in the material, spiritual, and cultural life of Arctic indigenous peoples, and the hunting of polar bears remains important in their cultures.
The IUCN now lists global warming as the most significant threat to the polar bear, primarily because the melting of its sea ice habitat reduces its ability to find sufficient food. The IUCN states, “If climatic trends continue polar bears may become extirpated from most of their range within 100 years.”[1] On May 14, 2008, the United States Department of the Interior listed the polar bear as a threatened species under the Endangered Species Act.
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mpi
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Polar bears kills Eskimos. Eskimos kill polar bears. Are you siding with the polar bears? I personally think that humans can kill as many polar bears as they want to.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_bear
The polar bear (Ursus maritimus) is a bear native to the Arctic Ocean and its surrounding seas. The world’s largest predator found on land, an adult male weighs around 400–680 kg (880–1,500 lb),[3] while an adult female is about half that size. Although it is closely related to the brown bear, it has evolved to occupy a narrow ecological niche, with many body characteristics adapted for cold temperatures, for moving across snow, ice, and open water, and for hunting the seals which make up most of its diet.[4] As it can hunt consistently only from sea ice, the polar bear spends much of the year on the frozen sea, although most polar bears are born on land.
The polar bear is classified as a vulnerable species, with 5 of the 19 polar bear subpopulations in decline.[5][6] For decades, unrestricted hunting raised international concern for the future of the species; populations have rebounded after controls and quotas began to take effect. For thousands of years, the polar bear has been a key figure in the material, spiritual, and cultural life of Arctic indigenous peoples, and the hunting of polar bears remains important in their cultures.
The IUCN now lists global warming as the most significant threat to the polar bear, primarily because the melting of its sea ice habitat reduces its ability to find sufficient food. The IUCN states, “If climatic trends continue polar bears may become extirpated from most of their range within 100 years.”[1] On May 14, 2008, the United States Department of the Interior listed the polar bear as a threatened species under the Endangered Species Act.
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mpi
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Did you read my post? Polar bears are the enemy of man. They kill people in the North. You want to spend how many trillions of dollars crippling our economy by reducing CO2 emissions in the hope that the temperature gets a little cooler, or less warm? Humans by the way tend to thrive during the periods of global warming.
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