God according to catholics

[ahmadhassan]

23 I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he will tend them; he will tend them and be their shepherd. 24 I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David will be prince among them. I the LORD have spoken.

 

[Mamastrocity]

23 I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he will tend them; he will tend them and be their shepherd. 24 I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David will be prince among them. I the LORD have spoken.

So what happens when David dies?

 

[Subrosa]

God is spirit according to bible
God is like nothing else ,he isnt man nor son of man
third ,do you believe that God has body that is human like (before what you claim about birth of God
dont you see that this contradict with believe that God is spirit and what you believe that God was born to take human shape ,if he is human like why he need to be born

Here is something else the bible says about God…

Pilippians 2:

5 Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus,

6 Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped.

7 Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance,

8 he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross.

9 Because of this, God greatly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,

10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bend, of those in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

 

[Subrosa]

Here’s another thing that the bible says about God…

John
Chapter 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 He was in the beginning with God.

3 All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be

4 through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race;

5 the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

14 And the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us, and we saw his glory, the glory as of the Father’s only Son, full of grace and truth.

18 No one has ever seen God. The only Son, God, who is at the Father’s side, has revealed him.

 

[MHalsey]

if you see whole of my posts you will find that i dont do so and i will not do so ,i will give you answer from bible not from islam

This is my point, you only quote from the parts YOU accept, yet you will not accept anything Catholics quote because it comes from a part of the Bible YOU claim has been corrupted. THIS is the part that is disingenuous.

Catholics do not believe any part of the Bible to be corrupted. Not even the parts you are quoting from. However, it has been shown time and time again how these quotes are taken out of context in an attempt to discredit what the Church teaches.

 

[MHalsey]

if you see whole of my posts you will find that i dont do so and i will not do so ,i will give you answer from bible not from islam

Yet you did quote from the Qur’an.

this is what qur`an say about christ ,its not a proof to you bec you dont believe it but i just tell you what we believe about christ

(translation of the meaning of the qur`an)
5: 116. And (remember) when Allâh will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O ‘Îsâ (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: ‘Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allâh?’ " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours; truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden (and unseen).

61: 6. And (remember) when ‘Îsâ (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allâh unto you, confirming the Taurât (Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.[1] But when he (Ahmad i.e. Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) came to them with clear proofs, they said: “This is plain magic.”[2]

 

[Booklover]

first for you sake dont qoute from the quran to prove what you say simply bec you dont understand the quran ,and you believe that the whole qur`an to be lies ,so how do you wanna use that lies to prove something ?

So we don’t understand the Quran, but you know more about the Bible than the Church that gave it to us??

second
John 5:22-23 "For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son, so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

you see that they are not one as bible say ,now tell me who should we believe ?
second He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him the sender cant be who was sent ,and who was sent is newer than the sender
third ,as christ was send from God then who dont honor him dont honor God ,a small example ,who dont honor an embassador of a country dont honor the president of that country who sent him
1 Samuel 8:7 And the LORD told him: "Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king.

But it’s okay for you to quote our scriptures and twist to mean what you want them to mean?? Talk about double standards!

Do you believe that God is omnipotent or only able to do those things that we can understand?

Vickie

 

[Booklover]

i didnt say that im picking ,im just saying we muslims believe in the bible and we believe in it to be partially right and some verses are corrupted ,so we can quote from it ,but for christians they believe that the whole qur`an is a lie so they cant quote from it

We believe in freedom of speech, even if Muslims believe that they’re the only ones with that right!

 

[Booklover]

So what you’re saying is that you only accept what you agree with and disagree with what you don’t accept. This is so inconsistent and is why no one hear will ever agree with anything you say.

As was said before, your arguments are downright insulting to all Christians, not just Catholics. You are not here for honest debate, nor are you here to learn.

Everyone else take heed. Nothing you say will get Ahmad to see the trinity as we do. He requires proof from Christians, but as his last statement says, he can only accept what Islam has to say about the Bible.

In this PC world we live in it’s okay for Muslims to insult us as much as they like, but the minute that a Christian says something derogatory about Islam or Muhammad we’re instantly accused of hatred!

 

[ahmadhassan]

Here is something else the bible says about God…

Pilippians 2:

5 Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus,

6 Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped.

7 Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance,

8 he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross.

9 Because of this, God greatly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,

10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bend, of those in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

did the christ say so ?what if i told you that the christ said that he isnt equal to God ,will you believe the christ? or believe paul?

 

[ahmadhassan]

This is my point, you only quote from the parts YOU accept, yet you will not accept anything Catholics quote because it comes from a part of the Bible YOU claim has been corrupted. THIS is the part that is disingenuous.

Catholics do not believe any part of the Bible to be corrupted. Not even the parts you are quoting from. However, it has been shown time and time again how these quotes are taken out of context in an attempt to discredit what the Church teaches.

did i said i will? i will give quotes that prove corruption of corrupted parts** “from the bible itself”**

 

[ahmadhassan]

Yet you did quote from the Qur’an.

did i quote from qur`an to prove something ,if so bring it to us

Originally Posted by ahmadhassan View Post

this is what qur`an say about christ ,**its not a proof to you bec you dont believe it but i just tell you what we believe about christ **

 

[ahmadhassan]

So we don’t understand the Quran, but you know more about the Bible than the Church that gave it to us??

But it’s okay for you to quote our scriptures and twist to mean what you want them to mean?? Talk about double standards!

Do you believe that God is omnipotent or only able to do those things that we can understand?

Vickie

prove that i did twisting verses

 

[ahmadhassan]

In this PC world we live in it’s okay for Muslims to insult us as much as they like, but the minute that a Christian says something derogatory about Islam or Muhammad we’re instantly accused of hatred!

if you proved that i did insult any of you i will leave that site

 

[MHalsey]

did i quote from qur`an to prove something ,if so bring it to us

Originally Posted by ahmadhassan View Post

this is what qur`an say about christ ,**its not a proof to you bec you dont believe it but i just tell you what we believe about christ **

Then why quote from it? It adds nothing to the discussion. Except that it allows us to understand where you are coming from.

This is how I see your argument: The Qur’an says the Bible is corrupted and anyone who believes it are liars. And because the Qur’an itself claims to be the divine word of God, it must be true.

With regard to the Bible:
You only accept what Islam tells you to accept
You reject what Islam tells you to reject
You have no opinion about that which Islam does not mention.

Like I said, you will only quote from the parts YOU think are not corrupted. And even the quotes you have given have been answered to you. You don’t accept it, and it becomes a circular argument.

 

[ahmadhassan]

Then why quote from it? It adds nothing to the discussion. Except that it allows us to understand where you are coming from.

why dont you think its to know ,something for your info ,but not to prove to you ,did i use it to prove?

This is how I see your argument: The Qur’an says the Bible is corrupted and anyone who believes it are liars. And because the Qur’an itself claims to be the divine word of God, it must be true.

who said so?

With regard to the Bible:
You only accept what Islam tells you to accept
You reject what Islam tells you to reject
You have no opinion about that which Islam does not mention.

yes ,and i can prove to you that what islam agree with is right and what islam dont is corruption (using the bible to prove so)

Like I said, you will only quote from the parts YOU think are not corrupted. And even the quotes you have given have been answered to you. You don’t accept it, and it becomes a circular argument.

did i said that? i dont think i will but the verses that is corrupted i will give proof from bible that its corrupted

 

[MHalsey]

yes ,and i can prove to you that what islam agree with is right and what islam dont is corruption (using the bible to prove so)

You cannot use the Bible to prove parts of it are corrupt. You can point to quotes that you think prove it, but these, as have been pointed out to you, are taken out of context.

And since it was the Church that put the Bible together, I’ll take their word on whether it is corrupt or not. Not yours, Islam’s, or the Qur’an’s.

 

[ahmadhassan]

You cannot use the Bible to prove parts of it are corrupt. You can point to quotes that you think prove it, but these, as have been pointed out to you, are taken out of context.

And since it was the Church that put the Bible together, I’ll take their word on whether it is corrupt or not. Not yours, Islam’s, or the Qur’an’s.

can you prove that it to be taken out of context?
if you followed church about corrupted parts then you
1-will be misguided
2-will worship false god
3-will be like satan who refused to obey God
4-you will be like those who took false god order and refuse God orders
finally ,i will pray for you

 

[MHalsey]

can you prove that it to be taken out of context?
if you followed church about corrupted parts then you
1-will be misguided
2-will worship false god
3-will be like satan who refused to obey God
4-you will be like those who took false god order and refuse God orders
finally ,i will pray for you

As I said, it has been proven time and again, every quote you give has been taken out of context, and you disregard what you believe to be corrupt.
If you followed a corrupt false religion with a corrupt false prophet, then you:
1-will be misguided
2-will worship false god
3-will be like satan who refused to obey God
4-you will be like those who took false god order and refuse God orders

As I said a while back, I will pray for you.
God Bless.

 

[ahmadhassan]

As I said, it has been proven time and again, every quote you give has been taken out of context, and you disregard what you believe to be corrupt.
If you followed a corrupt false religion with a corrupt false prophet, then you:
1-will be misguided
2-will worship false god
3-will be like satan who refused to obey God
4-you will be like those who took false god order and refuse God orders

As I said a while back, I will pray for you.
God Bless.

would you tell us where did i take verses out of context?