God dissapoints me

[Aussieman88]

We are not waiting on God to do something about all this. God is waiting on us to do it.
He already sent Jesus, who won back the authority over the devil for us. Paid in full for our sins and for our healing and led a life of example of how we all should live. Then he gave his authority to us and said the one who believes in me will do the works I have done and greater. Then he sent us the Holy Spirit so that each of us can have access to him directly.

The problem is most people don’t believe the devil and his demons are actually real and that they actually do have authority over them. Draw near to God and then resist the devil. The new testament is pretty clear about it. Jesus was a miracle worker. We should all be doing that too but we’re too busy in our lives worrying and stressing about things the demons are doing and not fighting them.

Draw near to God, get into spiritual warfare and watch your life change. The more you get into it the more you will feel the Holy Spirit. The lives of those around you will change for the better too. The prayers of a righteous man are powerful. Be that man. Taking authority over demons and casting them out of your life is your job. Pray for the healings and miracles with faith. Then the Holy Spirit will take care of it for you. Nothings too big a problem for God.

 

[Meemai]

We are not waiting on God to do something about all this. God is waiting on us to do it.
He already sent Jesus, who won back the authority over the devil for us. Paid in full for our sins and for our healing and led a life of example of how we all should live. Then he gave his authority to us and said the one who believes in me will do the works I have done and greater. Then he sent us the Holy Spirit so that each of us can have access to him directly.

The problem is most people don’t believe the devil and his demons are actually real and that they actually do have authority over them. Draw near to God and then resist the devil. The new testament is pretty clear about it. Jesus was a miracle worker. We should all be doing that too but we’re too busy in our lives worrying and stressing about things the demons are doing and not fighting them.

Draw near to God, get into spiritual warfare and watch your life change. The more you get into it the more you will feel the Holy Spirit. The lives of those around you will change for the better too. The prayers of a righteous man are powerful. Be that man. Taking authority over demons and casting them out of your life is your job. Pray for the healings and miracles with faith. Then the Holy Spirit will take care of it for you. Nothings too big a problem for God.

If Jesus won back authority over the devil then how come he still has power over us? The devil seems to be plotting and acting actively while God does not plot and is not effective. Which is not really wishful. I never felt the holy spirit and to me the holy spirit sounds fake, because he never came to help me. To me the holy spirit is the equilavent of a spirit I have never seen nor felt. No matter how much I have prayed it did not come. So I am really thinking of requesting excommunication out of church. For the holy spirit does not reach me.

I might have to talk with my pastor abou it. I am starting to notice Christian people and mainly Americans are very conservatice which I do not like. I want changes I want reformations I don’t think God wants that though.

Going from the opinions on this forum probably not.

 

[Aussieman88]

If Jesus won back authority over the devil then how come he still has power over us? The devil seems to be plotting and acting actively while God does not plot and is not effective. Which is not really wishful. I never felt the holy spirit and to me the holy spirit sounds fake, because he never came to help me. To me the holy spirit is the equilavent of a spirit I have never seen nor felt. No matter how much I have prayed it did not come. So I am really thinking of requesting excommunication out of church. For the holy spirit does not reach me.

I might have to talk with my pastor abou it. I am starting to notice Christian people and mainly Americans are very conservatice which I do not like. I want changes I want reformations I don’t think God wants that though.

Going from the opinions on this forum probably not.

He has power over us when we sin. When we repent and are forgiven, he no longer has power over us because of that sin. God’s done everything he needs to for us to have life perfectly here on this earth. Its free for anyone to take it but we have to do it the way God set it up to be done. God is a spirit. Ask your pastor/priest to teach you how to get closer to God. The bible says when we draw near to God, He will draw near to us. So we have to do it first. God is waiting for you to come closer. He is actually already close to you it’s just that you haven’t learnt to perceive it. Your pastor will help you if you ask. Its real. like the bible says, seek and you shall find. It’s real and you can do it.

 

[Pablopedro]

Humans have certain character traits, let’s say serial murderes and pedophiles, why does God not remove this trait out of the world he could do that right? He would not have to kill someone but just take that trait away. Instead he let’s the trait rampage trough his whole church and we get pedophile priesters doing bad things. A touchy subject but none the less it shows God just let’s these treats exist. Also corrupcy in the papacy he just let’s that exist while he could influence the non corupt to do something against the corrupt.

These are all small things that could be done without killing anyone. But I guess it’s near impossible or he does not really want to. Or he just really is patient but his good name is getting stained and how can you believe in a leader that sits at a table all day waiting doing nothing even when his villages are raided and the peasants are pissed off?

So he should remove people’s free will?

Another thing I meant to mention is how you compared a flood to wiping your hard drive. The idea being that God does not care about the individual but only if things are working ok?

Let me revise…You are disappointed in God because he is Patient, Forgiving, Loves every one of us as individuals, and has granted us free-will.

 

[Meemai]

He has power over us when we sin. When we repent and are forgiven, he no longer has power over us because of that sin. God’s done everything he needs to for us to have life perfectly here on this earth. Its free for anyone to take it but we have to do it the way God set it up to be done. God is a spirit. Ask your pastor/priest to teach you how to get closer to God. The bible says when we draw near to God, He will draw near to us. So we have to do it first. God is waiting for you to come closer. He is actually already close to you it’s just that you haven’t learnt to perceive it. Your pastor will help you if you ask. Its real. like the bible says, seek and you shall find. It’s real and you can do it.

Sought but couldn’t find even got confirmed but even that did not help. The holy spirit that resides within me is sleeping. Locked away. I talked about this with my pastor a lot he tells me to sit still and meditate on God, but I used to pray rosaries and stuff but it did not help. I don’t want to do it again just to find myself finding nothing.

So he should remove people’s free will?

Another thing I meant to mention is how you compared a flood to wiping your hard drive. The idea being that God does not care about the individual but only if things are working ok?

Let me revise…You are disappointed in God because he is Patient, Forgiving, Loves every one of us as individuals, and has granted us free-will.

Yes he should remove/control our free will because no he does not but others do. Now political leaders and the media move peoples free will I prefer God to do it.

Yes God should care about the whole thing. The individual should be sacrafised for the greater good. Though many might disagree on this but I am convinced that it’s better to have the whole thing working. I do not lie about that.

He should be less patient he should be like a strict leader. Whenever I did something wrong my dad would give me a hit. He did not do this a lot but when he did I knew I was wrong. Which was a great way to teach me how to behave.

I think God should also be strict. He should make spiritual jails where he can put bad people in and show them how to live. He should interact more with us.

 

[Pablopedro]

Sought but couldn’t find even got confirmed but even that did not help. The holy spirit that resides within me is sleeping. Locked away. I talked about this with my pastor a lot he tells me to sit still and meditate on God, but I used to pray rosaries and stuff but it did not help. I don’t want to do it again just to find myself finding nothing.

Yes he should remove/control our free will because no he does not but others do. Now political leaders and the media move peoples free will I prefer God to do it.

Yes God should care about the whole thing. The individual should be sacrafised for the greater good. Though many might disagree on this but I am convinced that it’s better to have the whole thing working. I do not lie about that.

He should be less patient he should be like a strict leader. Whenever I did something wrong my dad would give me a hit. He did not do this a lot but when he did I knew I was wrong. Which was a great way to teach me how to behave.

I think God should also be strict. He should make spiritual jails where he can put bad people in and show them how to live. He should interact more with us.

People still have free will and neither political leaders nor media can remove it. Even if they can mislead people or coerce people, those people still have free will.

One individual was sacrificed for the greater good, His Son Jesus. Again you are missing a large point on the punitive thing. Are you saying you are okay if God wiped you off the face of the earth without mercy or chance of repentance if it might improve things for someone else?

God is constantly interacting with us. Is part of the reason you are disappointed not that the world is suffering from the effects of sin? How many have through God’s help fought against sin and done wonderful things in this world.

God could have made us without free-will and we would all only do what is good, always. It’s just we wouldn’t be sentient beings. Would you want to sacrifice individuality and person-hood?

“He should make spiritual jails where he can put bad people in and show them how to live.” Sort of describes Earth…

 

[Meemai]

People still have free will and neither political leaders nor media can remove it. Even if they can mislead people or coerce people, those people still have free will.

One individual was sacrificed for the greater good, His Son Jesus. Again you are missing a large point on the punitive thing. Are you saying you are okay if God wiped you off the face of the earth without mercy or chance of repentance if it might improve things for someone else?

God is constantly interacting with us. Is part of the reason you are disappointed not that the world is suffering from the effects of sin? How many have through God’s help fought against sin and done wonderful things in this world.

God could have made us without free-will and we would all only do what is good, always. It’s just we wouldn’t be sentient beings. Would you want to sacrifice individuality and person-hood?

“He should make spiritual jails where he can put bad people in and show them how to live.” Sort of describes Earth…

No free will is being influenced also the debate of ‘does free will exist?’ is a very hard question that philosophers are still not able to asnwer. There are many theories for and against. That aside how much free will do we have? If we do not have means to back it up? I am struggling to find a future path for me but everything I want to do I lack the capacity to do it. So I guess free will is useless when it does not match your capacity.

Well I don’t think I’m a big problem in this world I don’t really hurt people actively. Or on purpose but if I where a terorist I surely would hope he would wipe me off this earth. Because I could do a lot of damage and am dangerous. I should be stopped by all means. And God must know which key persons play the biggest role in corrupting this world. So he should be able to wipe them away. You don’t have to wipe every sinner away just the key-persons.

I think it’s weird to say that sin is the cause of all this badness. Grave sins like murders will get you locked up! As for fighting against sin I don’t really feel like I receive help from God with that.
Well does free will really exist or are we wired in a certain way in which free will seems a illusion? But I guess if God would pick out bad people and clean them up no one really loses individuality you just lose the chances of being a bad guy. Also even if we have free will it can be monitored. When in a class a group bullies one person. Usually a teacher can pick out the key bullies and when they are rendered as useless the others will also stop bullying.

Earth huh yes… But what have I done bad to deserve this prison? I mean was it my sin that my dad and mother made me? Was it wrong of me to be born? I didn’t want this life anyways. But sadly I cannot take it away.

That’s maybe what I am most dissapointed with towards God, my own life. It’s a stupid joke my whole life. I am 21. I got rheumatism, a skin illness, a personailty disorder and my right brain half is damaged.

So I score really high scores on iq tests for some subjects those for the left. But because of the damage of the right I score really low on the others. Do you want to know how to frustrating it is? If your body can’t keep up with you cause of rheumatism. When you have great intellect but cannot use it because one part is damaged so now I can’t even get into college because they won’t allow me. So my intellect has been disregarded. It’s uselles utterly uselles I wanted to do philosophy but will never be able to. Oh and when your personality is so bad that you have no ambitions anymore that you can’t socialize well with people and that even your parents don’t know what to do with you.

God has surely crippled me. And I don’t know the bad I have done, he started throwing rheumatism at me when I was 1.5 years old. My brain was also damaged by birth.

 

[Pablopedro]

No free will is being influenced also the debate of ‘does free will exist?’ is a very hard question that philosophers are still not able to asnwer. There are many theories for and against. That aside how much free will do we have? If we do not have means to back it up? I am struggling to find a future path for me but everything I want to do I lack the capacity to do it. So I guess free will is useless when it does not match your capacity.

Well I don’t think I’m a big problem in this world I don’t really hurt people actively. Or on purpose but if I where a terorist I surely would hope he would wipe me off this earth. Because I could do a lot of damage and am dangerous. I should be stopped by all means. And God must know which key persons play the biggest role in corrupting this world. So he should be able to wipe them away. You don’t have to wipe every sinner away just the key-persons.

I think it’s weird to say that sin is the cause of all this badness. Grave sins like murders will get you locked up! As for fighting against sin I don’t really feel like I receive help from God with that.
Well does free will really exist or are we wired in a certain way in which free will seems a illusion? But I guess if God would pick out bad people and clean them up no one really loses individuality you just lose the chances of being a bad guy. Also even if we have free will it can be monitored. When in a class a group bullies one person. Usually a teacher can pick out the key bullies and when they are rendered as useless the others will also stop bullying.

Earth huh yes… But what have I done bad to deserve this prison? I mean was it my sin that my dad and mother made me? Was it wrong of me to be born? I didn’t want this life anyways. But sadly I cannot take it away.

That’s maybe what I am most dissapointed with towards God, my own life. It’s a stupid joke my whole life. I am 21. I got rheumatism, a skin illness, a personailty disorder and my right brain half is damaged.

So I score really high scores on iq tests for some subjects those for the left. But because of the damage of the right I score really low on the others. Do you want to know how to frustrating it is? If your body can’t keep up with you cause of rheumatism. When you have great intellect but cannot use it because one part is damaged so now I can’t even get into college because they won’t allow me. So my intellect has been disregarded. It’s uselles utterly uselles I wanted to do philosophy but will never be able to. Oh and when your personality is so bad that you have no ambitions anymore that you can’t socialize well with people and that even your parents don’t know what to do with you.

God has surely crippled me. And I don’t know the bad I have done, he started throwing rheumatism at me when I was 1.5 years old. My brain was also damaged by birth.

Free-will is the ability to choose between the options available to you (not choose anything at all you want, like the ability to fly). And more importantly it is the ability to choose between doing right and wrong (yes everyone has different circumstances and different wiring, that is why God is judge and not man).

You say you do not hurt people actively or purposefully and so you are of no concern, but that terrorists should be taken out of the world. Is that not a statement of free-will?

I get that you are angry with God. Believe me I’ve been there. What does it profit you though but more pain and despair?

You feel the world is unjust. God is perfectly just. This world and life is just temporary, it will end no matter what.

Ozymandias

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear –
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.’

Percy Bysshe Shelley

Focus instead on eternity, and trust in God. Life will be easier and more joyful. Do not worry so much about the struggles in this life, at 21 it seems like this world is exceptionally important. As you get older you will appreciate more and more just how temporary everything is.

 

[fhansen]

First of all, if you don’t like cynical written topics please avoid this topic. As I remember most Religious people don’t like cynical things! Which I do respect. But if you want to tumble in a dogfight with me, stay on reading as we will explore the skies and push ourselves and our intellect to the limit! (Don’t mind the last part I like to play with words.)

Allright in all seriousness, mind my English as I am Dutch and I sometimes catch myself on being bad it it!

So let’s jump right in, I want you to take a look at the world. Europa is in peril financial Europe is doing bad. Japan is also doing bad I heard from a Japanese woman I met on the train. I don’t know how the USA is doing, but I know they are spieing on the world. In Russia gays are being prosecuted. In Syria there’s fighting and also in other parts of the world, for example in Africa where muslims extremists where cut back mainly by the French army.

Now from the worldview let’s get close to the closer view, western civilisation most people and not all but most are selfish. I don’t expect anything anymore from my fellow-humans. We betray each other when we can, we lie when we can. We are afraid to show our errors and hide them even if it means hurting someone else. Remember when I said push ourselves to the limit in the start of the text? Every human is pushing itself to the limit, to the limit of being selfish. Now there are times when people are not selfish when family or friends are involved. Or when we as humans are being kind to each others because we share something, maybe even religion.

But let’s not be mistaken! Rule of thumb is most humans think about they’re selves and will handly acordingly and everyone that says that humans do not do this is a liar. I don’t know how God wanted to create us but when I see birds in my garden when there’s not enough food for two, the stronger will shoo away the weaker. Are humans also created like this? Is the form of lifestyle we humans founded not the way God meant it to be? Where we meant to live in the forests instead of building big *** houses out of concrete or wood?

To be honest we are destroying nature, people are hunting on animals, throwing empty cans on the street and not paying any atention to the critters and other animals that roam our world.

And this all hurts me I am a man with ideals, but all I can see is people being poor or living on the streets. While others have houses with 5 rooms while they only use 3. Surely this world is unfair and I wonder why God is asleep?

Does he not see the hurt? Is this what he meant? How can I trust my own God if I even see my fellow christians hating on gays? I mean come on really? We should help our fellow people.

I wish I could make big changes I wish I could write about it like great thinkers did, like Albert Camus or Soren Kierkegaard. But God gave me no talent. And I’m angry that he did not give me the talent to do something against it. He shows me a world of hurt and pain that’s rotten but gives me no ways of changing it.

To be honest if the devil could give me the power to end the pain of this world, I would een be tempted to take it. Because God seems asleep. All great minds like big philosophers are gone and made way for people at the top that only want money and in the midst of wanting money fail to safeguard the peoples money and start a financial crisis by they’re stupidity.

I have spoken enough I think as this topic might have gotten to long for you all to read but I hope you can understand the gist of where I want to go and where I am going.

From what you wrote you should be disappointed by man rather than God. The bible says that Jesus thoroughly knew the hearts of men-and was unimpressed! He wanted to change this situation, in fact, to rectify it by changing our hearts. If you want to understand the problems of this world and man’s nature, study the Church’s doctrine of Original Sin here:

scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p7.htm

 

[Meemai]

Free-will is the ability to choose between the options available to you (not choose anything at all you want, like the ability to fly). And more importantly it is the ability to choose between doing right and wrong (yes everyone has different circumstances and different wiring, that is why God is judge and not man).

You say you do not hurt people actively or purposefully and so you are of no concern, but that terrorists should be taken out of the world. Is that not a statement of free-will?

I get that you are angry with God. Believe me I’ve been there. What does it profit you though but more pain and despair?

You feel the world is unjust. God is perfectly just. This world and life is just temporary, it will end no matter what.

Ozymandias

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear –
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.’

Percy Bysshe Shelley

Focus instead on eternity, and trust in God. Life will be easier and more joyful. Do not worry so much about the struggles in this life, at 21 it seems like this world is exceptionally important. As you get older you will appreciate more and more just how temporary everything is.

Free will then does not do much, since the options we can chose off are being controlled by others anyways. For example when you want to buy a drink the store you go to controls what they sell, so you can only pick from what they want you to pick. So your free will is not without flaws.

I do not mean free will would help you to fly, but what if you want to pursue a certain career but can’t do it because others control the requirements you need for it? And you do not fulfill those at that moment your free will has been stolen.
A statement of free will? I guess me wanting a better world is a opinion that could root back to free will, but I would not need it when the world would be a good place.
To put all my trust in God would hurt me more, I did that but I felt neglected. Got more problems and no one helped me. And if something hurts the most it is the feeling of being neglected and being left to fend for yourself. I rather be alone than to have a friend that would backstab me at times or neglect me.

If God would be perfectly just why did he not hear my plea for help and gave me more trouble instead? I don’t call it just to give someone that is born rheumatism, I couldn’t even sin when I was not born! He crippled me and all my options to a future path. I am not even certain if I can land a good job, probably I would have to do hard work which I can’t due due to my rheumatism so my life spawn will be lowered by a lot of percentage. On the other hand my other brain half is above average but I cannot use it because my other half is damaged. I call that cruel, not just.

How can I focus on eternity when I cannot survive this world? Suicide has been a battle I’ve been fighting since I’ve been twelve. I can’t focus on that as I am to uncertain to live right here. All I want in life is a normal job in which I do not need to do a lot of hard work. So a light workload do something with my head be a teacher or something. But I can’t so I have to do hard work which I can not do. So all that my life is, is work go home not being able to stand the rest of the day because of rheumatism. Hard work will kill me most certainly or make me suicide. Because would you want to get up with pain everyday? Knowing it will never stop knowing your only 21 but have probably 40 more years to go?

From what you wrote you should be disappointed by man rather than God. The bible says that Jesus thoroughly knew the hearts of men-and was unimpressed! He wanted to change this situation, in fact, to rectify it by changing our hearts. If you want to understand the problems of this world and man’s nature, study the Church’s doctrine of Original Sin here:

scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p7.htm

The world, or man I am dissapointed with both and they have been created by one person. So why would’t I be dissapointed with the maker. If we buy a product that’s broken we are dissapointed in the product and the maker also.

So Jesus did not change our hearts because we didn’t get any better.

 

[Contra_Mundum_1]

If God would be perfectly just why did he not hear my plea for help and gave me more trouble instead? I don’t call it just to give someone that is born rheumatism, I couldn’t even sin when I was not born! He crippled me and all my options to a future path. I

I think these are some of the most difficult things to accept about God: that we don’t understand why certain things happen (like illness and disability), and that in these weaknesses and troubles we have the ability to become strong and glorify God.

I was absolutely when I first heard this. I thought: “What?! Am I supposed to be accepting of pain and misery? How the heck does this work?”

It took me a while to understand redemptive suffering and to accept it. Suffering is the result of original sin and it is here in the world, it is reality. I have not met a single person who was spared from some kind of suffering because it is all rooted in original sin. (Of course, some people are given a greater burden than others, I am aware of that. Also, please don’t think that your suffering is punishment for sins. This is protestant belief that goes against what the church teaches. ) So if we accept suffering as a fact of this earthly life, as awful as it is, and ask God to turn it into something good, He might actually do something glorious. Your suffering could be lifted in a completely unexpected way and channelled into something positive and fruitful.

 

[cheezey]

Your suffering could be lifted in a completely unexpected way and channelled into something positive and fruitful.

I have attempted to come to the conclusion (if that makes sense) that faithfully and intellectually, I understand this, believe this and want to believe this.
Emotionally, however very, very difficult to reconcile with the other elements of my humaness
Add illness to that mix and… :hypno: :frighten: :bighanky: :blackeye:
I am guessing that this is part of the pain of being human.

 

[Meemai]

I think these are some of the most difficult things to accept about God: that we don’t understand why certain things happen (like illness and disability), and that in these weaknesses and troubles we have the ability to become strong and glorify God.

I was absolutely when I first heard this. I thought: “What?! Am I supposed to be accepting of pain and misery? How the heck does this work?”

It took me a while to understand redemptive suffering and to accept it. Suffering is the result of original sin and it is here in the world, it is reality. I have not met a single person who was spared from some kind of suffering because it is all rooted in original sin. (Of course, some people are given a greater burden than others, I am aware of that. Also, please don’t think that your suffering is punishment for sins. This is protestant belief that goes against what the church teaches. ) So if we accept suffering as a fact of this earthly life, as awful as it is, and ask God to turn it into something good, He might actually do something glorious. Your suffering could be lifted in a completely unexpected way and channelled into something positive and fruitful.

No people like me will not become strong, and will not glorify God, because we are rendered disabled. We are being pushed towards suicide. We have personality disorders people in this world cannot understand our pain we cannot socialize with them. Being handicapped physically and pschylogical is not an easy thing to go trough. And God would help me? I havn’t felt him being anywhere near.

Pain and misery I think not many know this. But let’s make a list of my future:
Not able to land a job that would be good to do with my rheumatism.
Not being able to study on.
Never will have a girlfriend due to disorder.
Will always remain alone but have no money for a appertment/house/flat
Rheumatism, will always be in constant pain and can’t do hard work.
Alcohol problems, above problems made me start drinking heavily.

So in this world I have no future at all and am bound to become a homeless hobo.

I have met many people that have an ok life. They might have one bad thing or get a fever every once in a while but well I never met someone like me that has a damaged brain half, rheumatism, and a personality disorder. It’s like God stacked all problems on me. And I am not even complaining about my bad eyesight. People that come with arguments like you have never been pushed to suicide. Stare into my eyes and see the hell that burns inside my mind. I reached for God trusting in him knowing he could help me but he left me out in the cold.

I don’t think he will change it the way it is. I’ve asked him, I’ve tried reaching him but it is futile.

If only I had a certain future I would be more than happy.

 

[Contra_Mundum_1]

I have attempted to come to the conclusion (if that makes sense) that faithfully and intellectually, I understand this, believe this and want to believe this.
Emotionally, however very, very difficult to reconcile with the other elements of my humaness
Add illness to that mix and… :hypno: :frighten: :bighanky: :blackeye:
I am guessing that this is part of the pain of being human.

Oh, absolutely. It is hard to accept it. Whenever something hits me, my immediate reaction is “God, how dare you?!” But I guess that this is a process, as most things are related to our faith.

 

[fred_conty]

First of all, if you don’t like cynical written topics please avoid this topic. As I remember most Religious people don’t like cynical things! Which I do respect. But if you want to tumble in a dogfight with me, stay on reading as we will explore the skies and push ourselves and our intellect to the limit! (Don’t mind the last part I like to play with words.)

Allright in all seriousness, mind my English as I am Dutch and I sometimes catch myself on being bad it it!

So let’s jump right in, I want you to take a look at the world. Europa is in peril financial Europe is doing bad. Japan is also doing bad I heard from a Japanese woman I met on the train. I don’t know how the USA is doing, but I know they are spieing on the world. In Russia gays are being prosecuted. In Syria there’s fighting and also in other parts of the world, for example in Africa where muslims extremists where cut back mainly by the French army.

Now from the worldview let’s get close to the closer view, western civilisation most people and not all but most are selfish. I don’t expect anything anymore from my fellow-humans. We betray each other when we can, we lie when we can. We are afraid to show our errors and hide them even if it means hurting someone else. Remember when I said push ourselves to the limit in the start of the text? Every human is pushing itself to the limit, to the limit of being selfish. Now there are times when people are not selfish when family or friends are involved. Or when we as humans are being kind to each others because we share something, maybe even religion.

But let’s not be mistaken! Rule of thumb is most humans think about they’re selves and will handly acordingly and everyone that says that humans do not do this is a liar. I don’t know how God wanted to create us but when I see birds in my garden when there’s not enough food for two, the stronger will shoo away the weaker. Are humans also created like this? Is the form of lifestyle we humans founded not the way God meant it to be? Where we meant to live in the forests instead of building big *** houses out of concrete or wood?

To be honest we are destroying nature, people are hunting on animals, throwing empty cans on the street and not paying any atention to the critters and other animals that roam our world.

And this all hurts me I am a man with ideals, but all I can see is people being poor or living on the streets. While others have houses with 5 rooms while they only use 3. Surely this world is unfair and I wonder why God is asleep?

Does he not see the hurt? Is this what he meant? How can I trust my own God if I even see my fellow christians hating on gays? I mean come on really? We should help our fellow people.

I wish I could make big changes I wish I could write about it like great thinkers did, like Albert Camus or Soren Kierkegaard. But God gave me no talent. And I’m angry that he did not give me the talent to do something against it. He shows me a world of hurt and pain that’s rotten but gives me no ways of changing it.

To be honest if the devil could give me the power to end the pain of this world, I would een be tempted to take it. Because God seems asleep. All great minds like big philosophers are gone and made way for people at the top that only want money and in the midst of wanting money fail to safeguard the peoples money and start a financial crisis by they’re stupidity.

I have spoken enough I think as this topic might have gotten to long for you all to read but I hope you can understand the gist of where I want to go and where I am going.

Here is something from Mother Teresa which may help.

People are often unreasonable, irrational, and self-centered. Forgive them anyway.

If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives. Be kind anyway.

If you are successful, you will win some unfaithful friends and some genuine enemies. Succeed anyway.

If you are honest and sincere people may deceive you. Be honest and sincere anyway.

What you spend years creating, others could destroy overnight. Create anyway.

If you find serenity and happiness, some may be jealous. Be happy anyway.

The good you do today, will often be forgotten. Do good anyway.

Give the best you have, and it will never be enough. Give your best anyway.

In the final analysis, it is between you and God. It was never between you and them anyway.

 

[fhansen]

No people like me will not become strong, and will not glorify God, because we are rendered disabled. We are being pushed towards suicide. We have personality disorders people in this world cannot understand our pain we cannot socialize with them. Being handicapped physically and pschylogical is not an easy thing to go trough. And God would help me? I havn’t felt him being anywhere near.

Pain and misery I think not many know this. But let’s make a list of my future:
Not able to land a job that would be good to do with my rheumatism.
Not being able to study on.
Never will have a girlfriend due to disorder.
Will always remain alone but have no money for a appertment/house/flat
Rheumatism, will always be in constant pain and can’t do hard work.
Alcohol problems, above problems made me start drinking heavily.

So in this world I have no future at all and am bound to become a homeless hobo.

I have met many people that have an ok life. They might have one bad thing or get a fever every once in a while but well I never met someone like me that has a damaged brain half, rheumatism, and a personality disorder. It’s like God stacked all problems on me. And I am not even complaining about my bad eyesight. People that come with arguments like you have never been pushed to suicide. Stare into my eyes and see the hell that burns inside my mind. I reached for God trusting in him knowing he could help me but he left me out in the cold.

I don’t think he will change it the way it is. I’ve asked him, I’ve tried reaching him but it is futile.

If only I had a certain future I would be more than happy.

None of us have a certain future in this life, except for, now or later, the certainty of inevitable suffering and death.

 

[cheezey]

…In the final analysis, it is between you and God. It was never between you and them anyway.

that’s for sure

Oh, absolutely. It is hard to accept it. Whenever something hits me, my immediate reaction is “God, how dare you?!” But I guess that this is a process, as most things are related to our faith.

Thankfully, I have asked “why?” once. I immediately thought, “why not?” It’s not my plan, but His. But then, I don’t think everything is of His plan. How I deal with it is, maybe, which right now is not too grand; and how the plan ultimately is His mystery; one for which I must wait
God does not disappoint me. Difficult to explain…

 

[Blessed_is_He]

God gave people free will. If they want to be selfish mean, stupid, stay in ignorance it is Thierry choice. That is the argument of atheists. Basics wondering why that IF God exists then why doesn’t He come down and protect US from such things. Once asked my mom if Eve never bit the apple would we still be in Eden. She said that if it wasn’t Eve who bit it that in time someone else would have. Free will either for good or evil.

 

[josh987654321]

God gave people free will. If they want to be selfish mean, stupid, stay in ignorance it is Thierry choice. That is the argument of atheists. Basics wondering why that IF God exists then why doesn’t He come down and protect US from such things. Once asked my mom if Eve never bit the apple would we still be in Eden. She said that if it wasn’t Eve who bit it that in time someone else would have. Free will either for good or evil.

The questions I would pose to you are these two -

1. If God were to smite all the wicked, where would he start and where would he finnish? are we not all sinners?
2. If God were to remove the choice of evil, how could we choose good?

**Luke 9:51-56 **

A Samaritan Village Refuses To Receive Jesus

51 Not long before it was time for Jesus to be taken up to heaven, he made up his mind to go to Jerusalem. 52 He sent some messengers on ahead to a Samaritan village to get things ready for him. 53 But he was on his way to Jerusalem, so the people there refused to welcome him. 54 When the disciples James and John saw what was happening, they asked, “Lord, do you want us to call down fire from heaven to destroy these people?”

55 But Jesus turned and corrected them for what they had said. 56 Then they all went on to another village.

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh

 

[fred_conty]

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fyi…Mother Teresa didn’t write this.
It was written by Dr. Kent M. Keith.

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I said, “Here is something FROM Mother Teresa which may help.”

This was written on the wall in Mother Teresa’s home for children in Calcutta.
This version is CREDITED to Mother Teresa.
So this version was not written by Dr. Keith.

Be at peace.​

“…we pray you give us rest and grant us peaceful death, lead us to fullness in this life.” (hymn)