Could you list those facts for those of us not as smart as you are?
I never argued that it did add anything to God’s power.
Never said creation from nothing was required.
When i speak of moral freewill, i am talking about our ability to choose between good and evil. I am saying that God does not have moral freewill.
Good, then we are probably not disagreeing on a whole lot.I never argued that it did add anything to God’s power.
Thats why in the title of the thread it says GOD does not have moral free will like human beings
Choosing between good and evil is not an “ability,” more like a dysfunction. We have a capacity to choose freely. The fact that we can short circuit that ability and lessen it by doing evil is not what makes free will moral. It is what makes our wills immoral when we do so.
I never said that our capacity to choose evil is moral. We are able to choose between good and evil. What does it mean to short circuit? We either have the capacity to choose between good and evil, or we do not.
We have the capacity but USING IT necessarily erodes, removes or destroys the capacity itself.
No, but that has never stopped us before.
I think its clear what i am talking about. I am not going to argue of usage of words.
God’s freedom lies in his will to do all that is good. He is not compelled to do that good, he does it freely. He is not like man who mulls over a choice to do evil or good. But even in man freedom is primarily in his will to do good.
Is there any tension between God’s love and freedom? If so he is not perfect!
If you can only will one thing due to your nature, you have to will it. There is no choice. Saying that it is “free” because it is ordered towards the good means nothing then.
It may be clear to you what you are talking about, but unless the “usage of words” is in common there will be a failure to achieve clarity among all.
There is no tension or confusion in God. And God’s love and freedom are characteristics of his very Essence, which is Pure Act of Existence. And Pure Existence is the summation of all that Is and all that is possible - with nothing left over. And since evil is the absence of what should be, evil does not exist in God. And since there is no evil in God, he is perfectly free to do what is good out of love for himself, to show his glory, his magnificence, his perfection.
You mean that God only loves himself but creation. How there could be no tension in God if he loves creation but he doesn’t create because he is free?
Freedom cannot exist without the capability of acting otherwise. Even if God can choose from different ways of creating, he is not free to act otherwise.
Look at it this way, evil is the absence of something good ( Thomas Aquinas and the Catholic Church ). Men constantly struggle because of concupiscence to do the good that they should do. The evil that they so often do, is a distortion of the good or even a complete destruction of it. It is the absence of what should be done, of what should be there. And the more men do this, the more enslaved they become and the less free they are to do the good that they should do. The Saints are the most free men among us, because they have trained themselves to do the good.