God has been dead at particular times since his ascension

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“dead” here defined as “separated from your physical body.”

I make this claim because I seems to me that, since the ascension, Jesus has had no physical body except for when he has been present in the Eucharist, and there have been times throughout post-ascension history when there have been no consecrated hosts.

To my mind, this means that, at least during those times, Jesus had no physical body and thus was technically dead.

If true, this might have interesting implications during the Easter season. We could consume all the consecrated hosts before Good Friday, and Jesus would actually be dead. Then, on Easter, we could consecrate hosts again, and Jesus would actually come back to life.

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I think that you are using a faulty definition of “dead” We know that, to God, all are living (Luke 20:38). Our body does not define our being, as we are not bodies with a spirit, but rather, spirits with a body. Jesus was not dead when He descended to the dead to preach the Gospel to them (1 Peter 3:18-19, 1 Peter 4:6), even though He went in spirit. As well, the Church teaches that Jesus ascended, body and soul, to heaven (CCC659).
 
“dead” here defined as “separated from your physical body.”

I make this claim because I seems to me that, since the ascension, Jesus has had no physical body except for when he has been present in the Eucharist, and there have been times throughout post-ascension history when there have been no consecrated hosts.
This is where you’re premise goes wrong.

Jesus’ still has his physical body; it’s one of the great mysteries of the Ascension; that our own human nature is now in the Godhead.
 
“dead” here defined as “separated from your physical body.”

I make this claim because I seems to me that, since the ascension, Jesus has had no physical body except for when he has been present in the Eucharist, and there have been times throughout post-ascension history when there have been no consecrated hosts.

To my mind, this means that, at least during those times, Jesus had no physical body and thus was technically dead.

If true, this might have interesting implications during the Easter season. We could consume all the consecrated hosts before Good Friday, and Jesus would actually be dead. Then, on Easter, we could consecrate hosts again, and Jesus would actually come back to life.

Objections? thoughts?
The second person of the trinity had no physical body before he was incarnated as Jesus. Was he dead then?
 
Romans 6:9 says “We know that Christ, raised from the dead, dies no more; death no longer has power over him.”
He died once, was resurrected, and ascended to Heaven where he continues to live in Heaven. He will never die again.
 
“dead” here defined as “separated from your physical body.”

I make this claim because I seems to me that, since the ascension, Jesus has had no physical body except for when he has been present in the Eucharist, and there have been times throughout post-ascension history when there have been no consecrated hosts.

To my mind, this means that, at least during those times, Jesus had no physical body and thus was technically dead.

If true, this might have interesting implications during the Easter season. We could consume all the consecrated hosts before Good Friday, and Jesus would actually be dead. Then, on Easter, we could consecrate hosts again, and Jesus would actually come back to life.

Objections? thoughts?
Jesus does not have a physical body in the Eucharist. The Eucharist is the entire substance of his body, blood, soul and divinity but it is not his physical body. It is the real presence, not the i. If it was his physical body then there would be a 175lb Jewish man on the altar.

Jesus rose from the dead and ascended into heaven body and soul. Mary’s body was assumed into heaven. Jesus and Mary’s physical body are in heaven where they are united to their respective souls, more alive than you and I are today.

-Tim-
 
As well, the Church teaches that Jesus ascended, body and soul, to heaven (CCC659).
Jesus’ still has his physical body; it’s one of the great mysteries of the Ascension; that our own human nature is now in the Godhead.
Romans 6:9 says “We know that Christ, raised from the dead, dies no more; death no longer has power over him.”
He died once, was resurrected, and ascended to Heaven where he continues to live in Heaven. He will never die again.
Jesus rose from the dead and ascended into heaven body and soul. Mary’s body was assumed into heaven. Jesus and Mary’s physical body are in heaven where they are united to their respective souls, more alive than you and I are today.
How is this possible, if heaven is not yet a physical place?
 
The second person of the trinity had no physical body before he was incarnated as Jesus. Was he dead then?
No, because He did not at that point have a human soul. Death is when the human soul is separated from its body.
 
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