Dear Ghosty,
I searched further, for insight into the
yetzer hara[h.]
[inclination toward evil, in Judaic thought.]
According to a rabbi, reponding to the question:
Is man intrinsically evil?
ohr.edu/ask/ask027.htm
the rabbi quotes Rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzzatto (the Ramchal),
as saying that, after the sin, man was more inclined toward
heeding the
yetzer hara…which supports your contention.
You hold that there was similarity, in the positions
held by Judaism and Roman Catholicism, with
regards to the
yetzer hara[h]…[concupiscience in RC theology.]
And, given the link, supplied above, I find that
what you stated is absolutely correct.
It was said that the Aish article I referenced understood
Original sin and concupiscience, in the Lutheran sense.
OK. No problem with that.
aish.com/spirituality/gr…_Fathers_17.asp
What I feel obliged to emphasize, is that Catholicism holds that
human beings are:
-born in Original Sin…an
ontological condition, rendering
man in need of “redemption.”
And, that is the key to the real difference, between
Judaism and all Christian positions.
Judaism holds that men and woman are capable, with free will,
to choose the good.
That men and women are born good, and will be challenged to
repond to the inclination toward good, rather than the yetzer
hara[h].
“I put before you, today, a blessing or a curse. Choose.”
And the heart of the matter is, Judaism sees a
newborn, untouched by sin. - ie. no Original Sin
ontologically…in the realm of “being”]
See the definition of Original Sin at:
scborromeo.org/ccc/para/818.htm
contrasted to the Judaic view, at:
jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/Original_Sin.html
[again, this seems to be based on a Luthern view of the nature
of man and grace, still, the material dealing with the Judaic view
of Original Sin is what is of interest, here. Note the reference to
the “dominant view”, as opposed to some rabbinic views, in
Talmudic times.]
What follows from this view of human beings being born,
untouched by sin, is:
No need for a Savior, in the Christian sense, to save us
from the
ontological condition of Original Sin, or to win
for us the grace to fight the
yetzer hara[h].
This view undercuts the entire rationale of the need for
a divine Savior.
And the Church knows, full well, that that is the case:
scborromeo.org/ccc/para/389.htm
Judaism does not hold that men and women are
born with a sin that we are in need of redemption from.
And so, the Messiah [the Anointed] can then be, what he
is looked for to be, in Judaism:
A human being, who will build the Third Temple and
lead all human beings to the acknowledgment of
the One God, establishing, thereby, the Kingdom of
God.
“Hear, O Israel, the Lord our G-d, the Lord is One.”
Not three Persons in one God. One.
There is a very good reason why Judaism and
Christianity are far different entities, regardless
of whether or no there are similarities- in
terms of the
yetzer hara[h] and concupiscience.
Men and women relate differently to God, based
on the concept of Original Sin, I think.
I would enjoy searching out any sources that
would wish to cite, Ghosty.
[Note: just saw your post, above this one. Thanks!]
Best, :tiphat:
reen12
) then shouldn’t God have showm more mercy? Why condemn all of humanity to suffer with painful childbirth and hard work etc?
