God is not a man

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It isn’t ‘she’ in proverbs, it’s she.

Anyway, I’m not sure God identifies ‘himself’ purely as a male Godhead, but I’m sure we humans assume we should think of God only in male terms.

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One could ask all kinds of questins
  1. who is “us” & “our” in that passage? What’s the plural imagery all about?
  2. Who else is there at this time, in that passage, in God’s creation process, in His words, “us” to create/make man in our image and our likeness ?
Jesus is God the Son, AND He has 2 natures, divine and He took on human nature
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Respectfully fully agree with 🙂 Interesting questions indeed.

Who is us? Us >>are the us>> infinite Spiritual Begins, bodily spiritual beings who are not made of flesh? There is existing Life>> in all forms is there not? Trees breath in and expel out what also?

Let us make man in our image and likeness.
First>> they have to >>make?
Let us make>>> finite human beings out of what matter?
We know the physical matter used, rots, dies and returns to that from which we took root from? Matter returns to matter? >>
Thus the saying>>Ashes to Ashes dust to dust?

Was the word original man or mortals?
Simply>>finite bodies, physical, fleshly living beings

In our Image?
Is there gender within out Heavenly Father’s realm?
Story of the woman with 7 husbands, which will be her husband? No one in heaven>>why? Infinite does not have to reproduce to they, finite does?
Jesus seems to bring to the forefront, bringing about balance of what life was always meant to be and teaches us how to live as human beings…or mortals?
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We do know the bible was written by man, is all about man and for man?
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Lets us make them in our image?
Can one hold the image of another in the palm of their hand to gaze upon it and know all what exist >>within>>the image of another?

Personal character is what makes up ones> Image within them?
Father’s Image, Speaks Truth? One is Righteous? Love? Peaceful? Joy? Merciful? Forgiving? Hospitality? Compassionate?
Makes up ones image?
Then if you see me you see my Father’s Image?
for what is within>brings it without also? >image> personal character image, >>to be seen >> how? > You will know them by their fruits? Outward actions taken >>Ones words and by Ones actions >brings what is within>brings forth without>is one’s True Image? >doers of his Word >> good vs not good?
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One cannot hold the Image of Love in ones hands to gaze upon it can we?

Us >has a heavenly Kingdom > a heavenly realm, Heavenly Host > Infinite Spiritual Living beings, thou not made of flesh, Spiritual Beings that never die?
Jesus tells us> Can I not call upon my Father to send me ten thousand angels?

All created has a purpose, for who builds a house and does not plan first?

Jesus is the Son and he has 2 natures>divine and human nature…

Are we not all Sons and Daughters of our Heavenly Father also?
Did Jesus not teach us to >>know thyself, within and without>> 2 natures also?

I knew you before I placed you in your mothers womb? Born from above>.How?
Return to Me and I Will return to you? How?

Lord’s prayer begins with>Our Father, means what?
Our Spiritual Father is not our earthly physical Father right?

He is one, we need to become one also >>within and without?

Opinions only questioning examining, pondering 🤔 Peace
 
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steve-b:
Just curious, Who taught you that ?
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Probably taught it by the sisters in school or I read it somewhere over the years (I read a lot) or both. I’m going by memory and hope I’m not wrong.
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May I suggest

“probably taught it by the sisters” isn’t a good reference point, and neither is, “read it somewhere over the years”. Same with “memory and I hope I’m not wrong”.

Especially given Jesus own words about seeing Him and seeing the Father

Therefore we can depict the Father in images or paintings
 
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“ probably taught it by the sisters ” isn’t a good reference point, and neither is, “ read it somewhere over the years ”. Same with “ memory and I hope I’m not wrong ”.
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It’s been good enough for me over the years and I agree with the Orthodox and other Christians – the Father should not be represented although I know He has been in Catholic art.

Also, am not interested in debating this.

Peace and God Bless you!
 
TigerLily-1 said:
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steve-b:
“ probably taught it by the sisters ” isn’t a good reference point, and neither is, “ read it somewhere over the years ”. Same with “ memory and I hope I’m not wrong ”.
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It’s been good enough for me over the years and I agree with the Orthodox and other Christians – the Father should not be represented although I know He has been in Catholic art.

Also, am not interested in debating this.

Peace and God Bless you!
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But by objecting you’re debating.

You didn’t open up the link that was provided… Here is what Jesus said in that link

John 14:9

9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you do not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
 
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This is my first post on this forum so hope all goes well…

God has no gender.None.
The reason for this is that God is pure spirit and therefore is incapable of having gender of any description whatsoever.

The tacking on of the term “He” to God is a mere anthropomorphism to assist in understanding the nature of God.

God is too outside the realms of any human experience to adequately or even remotely describe.

There is nothing wrong IMO with using the masculine pronoun in relation to God, or for that matter the feminine one since these are strictly human only descriptions.

The other issue is the tendency for some people to get annoyed when the " masculinity" of God is somehow questioned by persons like me.

There is no need to because God is neither masculine or feminine.

God already contains to full perfection and completion all masculine and all feminine attributes and qualities.

But above these human terms is the immensity and grandeur of the Great Creator and Spirit which surpasses all mere human ideas and concepts

It is therefore IMO incorrect to perceive and limit God to any strictly masculine or feminine terminology which is always going to be inadequate anyway.
 
It is wrong to see God as male or female.
That is pure anthropomorphism.

God is a pure spirit with no gender.

Gender is an entirely and exclusively human condition
 
A pure spirit is something without any parts.

Humans and the earth are opposed of parts therefore limited.

Spirits have no parts therefore unlimited.

God is infinite [ie without beginning or end] and pure spirit.

Angels are finite spirits i.e. they had a beginning.

Humans are a mixture of spirit and matter.
 
Sursum-Corda said:
It is wrong to see God as male or female.
That is pure anthropomorphism.

God is a pure spirit with no gender.

Gender is an entirely and exclusively human condition
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Yet Jesus said to Philip

God revealed Himself visually to all humans in the person of Jesus Christ

“And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld
his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father.” (John 1:14, RSV)
Jesus Himself said, “He who has seen me has seen the Father” (John 14:9 RSV)
And St. Paul adds, “He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation.”
(Colossians 1:15, RSV)

Now that God has been clothed in flesh, we can make an image of Him.
 
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It’s very appropriate to think of God as male. If you think of the male as the generative force, that is the one who acts upon another,and the female as the passive force, that is the one who receives generation from the other. this is the relationship between God and man.

Every human soul receives from God. All souls are female in relation to God.

I’ve got a bad feeling about this…Chewy start the calculations for light speed.
 
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Sursum-Corda said:
It is wrong to see God as male or female.
That is pure anthropomorphism.

God is a pure spirit with no gender.

Gender is an entirely and exclusively human condition
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Agreed, that is why I asked the question of why we need to ‘see’ God the Father as a human male.
 
Then you didn’t read all of my post:neutral_face:😐
Benadam said:
Every human soul receives from God. All souls are female in relation to God.

I’ve got a bad feeling about this…Chewy start the calculations for light speed.
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We can make an image of Jesus.
No problem.
We can not make an image of God , even though Jesus is God, that is not the whole picture of God.
 
Well I don’t and can’t see God the Father as a human male for the very very simple reason that the 1st Person of the Holy and Blessed Trinitarian God is most definitely not or anything like a human male.
 
Sursum-Corda said:
Well I don’t and can’t see God the Father as a human male for the very very simple reason that the 1st Person of the Holy and Blessed Trinitarian God is most definitely not or anything like a human male.
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That’s the same point Philip made when talking to Jesus. How did Jesus answer Philip?

John 14:9 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)

9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you do not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Catholic Art portraying God the Father
 
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Jesus doesn’t seem to agree with you. Perhaps your view is lacking something
 
steve-b said:
Person of the Holy and Blessed Trinitarian God is most definitely not or anything like a human male.
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Yep, those pictures are what I’m talking about.

Jesus also said to pray to the Father, and gave us the Our Father to help us.

Jesus called out to the Father from the cross asking why he had been abandoned.
And spoke to the Father through prayer many times.

Jesus is the image of the invisible God.

We are in the image of the invisible God also, in our female and male matter and soul.

I’m not trying to preach or teach anything here btw, I’m just pondering my thoughts and having to ask questions.
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