Even if they did, and the Bible offered absolutely no condemnation of homosexual behavior, it wouldn’t matter. Unless, of course, you adhere to sola scriptura.
No! It all starts with accepting orientation as the basis for behavior.
I guess this is where we diverge with one another…a person’s unchangeable sexual orientation IS a good reason for accepting them as whole human beings. We live in a world that has a much greater knowlege of sexual orientation than it did 4000-6000 years ago and surrounded by cultural taboos that many religious people see as normative…I do not…but I am not ‘conservative’ in my religious belief…and we are making determinations with peoples lives based on religious belief…not empirical psychological and scientific evidence…and yes I do realize that the scientific is far from conclusive as to the cause of homosexuality, but I’d rather trust “where the evidence is leading” than a 6000 year old superstitious view of sexuality.
We do not have to agree but only one of us is right.
I have an orientation that likes to get drunk all the time, I like to drink and the feeling of being drunk. But that doesn’t mean I should run with it and feel justified to drink, I have to work hard to avoid alcohol. It’s the same with gays. Maybe they can’t help how they feel, but it may not be good to act on it.
Yes, only one of us is right…and should it be me, then I will be grateful that I err on the side of grace, love and mercy…and if I’m wrong, then I will place myself to God’s judgement…I have no fear of that.
If drinking causes you or anyone else no damage whatsoever, then drinking isn’t an issue. A gay person having a committed loving stable relationship with another gay person does not effect you nor anyone else in any way…it is their choice…and it causes no harm to them nor anyone else.
You come upon the scene of a bad accident.
What does a traffic accident have to do with my 'erring" on the side of love, grace and mercy toward gay people…strange strange strange comparisons you make.
Are you going to answer?
For you to characterize the numerous logical, scientific, moral, and sociological arguments against the acceptance of homosexual behavior as simply “a 6000 year old superstitious view of sexuality” is to display a profound ignorance of the entire issue. When you do this it fatally damages your credibility. That’s how name calling contests get started, and rational discussions melt down.
No I’m not taking the bait on a useless comparison that has no value in our conversation…thanks but no thanks.
To claim that 6000 year old bedouins have a better grasp on human sexuality than modern science and psychaiatry is dabbling in superstition…it’s not my intention to begin name calling…it is an opinion…don’t be threatend by my opinion, I am not threatened by yours.
I’m pretty sure all gays feel guilty about what they do, and that guilt is just another brick in the wall to keep God out. Is it no surprise that so many gays are atheist and mock Jesus? So it does hurt in the long run.
That is you projecting your beliefs upon gay people…you might be “sure” they feel guilty, but that is just your feeling on the matter…whether gay people feel “guilty” for being gay is a whole different issue…many of the gay people I know and who worship along with me each First Day do not share in your “projected guilt”…I have had the privilege of serving with a Clerk of the Meeting who was one of the finest Christian women I have ever met…she and her partner had been together 35 years…she did not feel your “projected guilt”…I know of no gay people who “mock Jesus”…I have met many self professed Christians who darken his name however…but that doesn’t prove anything about Christians…just about those people who behave badly…so a person being gay who behaves in the same matter as a “bad Christian” proves nothing about gay people…except that they are “people.”
Genevieve,
I didn’t think so.
See we can agree on some things
!!!I live in one of the gay capitals of the world and most I know reject Jesus so I’m speaking from actual knowledge. How do those gay Christians reconcile what is defined as fornication, being sex outside of marriage between man and woman?
So you know they feel guilty?