God Loves Homosexuals

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AndrewLong said:
Well, not necessarily…I just don’t understand why God would look down upon two Homosexual beings that still absolutely love him, but execute free will that he gave them.
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A definition of terms is in order here.

License is the ability to do whatever one wants. It throws off all responsibility. It is not virtuous. License leads to anarchy and chaos.

With freedom comes responsibility. Freedom and license must not be confused:

freedom embraces responsibility and is guided by reason and virtue; license is choice without restraint.
 
buffalo said:
Society has a right to regulate deviant behaviors for the common good. That is why we have rule of law.

Demanding we accept and embrace deviant behaviors goes against the common good.

Coming out of the closet is announcing that I want to live the “gay” lifestyle and I want you to embrace and champion it.

I will go back to the pedophile orientation example that was called a red herring. Whether it be a same sex orientation, a violent orientation, or child abuse, etc. orientation the expression of the tendency is deviant. Society should not be expected to embrace any of these as normal.
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This is where we find ourselves on opposite sides of the fence…sexuality is neutral…homosexual or heterosexual is neutral. If heterosexuality becomes 'disordered" it can display traits of pedophilia, violence, sado-masichism…same with homosexuality…“disordered” in religious terms is something many…and a growing number of world citizens…are refusing to adhere to…giving way to the growing body of science in regards to human sexuality which is just now in this century being explored…there is much we do not know…and much still to discover about the human mind in general and sexuality in particular.

This does boil down…at this time…as simply a religious taboo…but that is changing as science and a growing body of knowledge help us distinguish historical “taboos” masquerading as religious dogma…but again…we disagree on the religious question of sexuality.
 
AndrewLong said:
I wasn’t speaking in that sense, but lol…just lol
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Well then I don’t think God condemns people for falling in love with the same sex. I just don’t think you are supposed to act on it physically, same as if you are married and fall in love with someone else, you are just supposed to hold your mud.
 
AndrewLong said:
I wasn’t speaking in that sense, but lol…just lol

Open? To people’s choices?
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Let’s start in the beginning. God said to Adam and Eve you can basically have everything but don’t eat of the fruit of one tree in the garden. Eve and then Adam knew better than God and were seduced by Satan that they could be like God.

God respected their free will choice. But it had its consequences.
 
AndrewLong said:
Well, not necessarily…I just don’t understand why God would look down upon two Homosexual beings that still absolutely love him, but execute free will that he gave them.
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You do not absolutely love God if you use your free will to pursue things that offend Him.

What you stated makes absolutely no sense. Free will is the only thing that can allow for absolute love, but, this is through willingly loving what God loves and rejecting what is evil. Jesus showed His love for the Father through obedience. We are called to take up our cross too, and imitate our Savior.
 
Publisher said:
This is where we find ourselves on opposite sides of the fence…sexuality is neutral…homosexual or heterosexual is neutral. If heterosexuality becomes 'disordered" it can display traits of pedophilia, violence, sado-masichism…same with homosexuality…“disordered” in religious terms is something many…and a growing number of world citizens…are refusing to adhere to…giving way to the growing body of science in regards to human sexuality which is just now in this century being explored…there is much we do not know…and much still to discover about the human mind in general and sexuality in particular.

This does boil down…at this time…as simply a religious taboo…but that is changing as science and a growing body of knowledge help us distinguish historical “taboos” masquerading as religious dogma…but again…we disagree on the religious question of sexuality.
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The fruit has again been presented. Everything you have stated above show the arrogance of man. We know better than our creator. We now are so smart we are our own god. Dismissing natural law and God’s law is eating the fruit all over again. It will have its consequences.
 
Good posts all.
Kevin42 said:
You do not absolutely love God if you use your free will to pursue things that offend Him.

What you stated makes absolutely no sense. Free will is the only thing that can allow for absolute love, and this is through willingly loving what God loves, and rejecting what is evil. Jesus showed His love for the Father through obedience. We are called to take up our cross too, and imitate our Savior.
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Then, in the obedience of God, are homosexuals condemned to be single, lonely, and unhappy for the rest of their lives? 😦
 
Kevin42 said:
You do not absolutely love God if you use your free will to pursue things that offend Him.

What you stated makes absolutely no sense. Free will is the only thing that can allow for absolute love, but, this is through willingly loving what God loves and rejecting what is evil. Jesus showed His love for the Father through obedience. We are called to take up our cross too, and imitate our Savior.
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I don’t believe too many of us use our free will to intentionally “offend God”.

Deciding what God finds acceptable and what He does not IS why we’re having this discussion…some of us feel we have it figured out based on dogma, scripture and our religious authorities…others do not embrace what “religious authorities” tell us God wants…we seek God and to understand Him differently…and unfortueately come to differing conclusions…but let us not accuse one another of willingly seeking to “offend God”, as those on this forum from all indications seek to understand the will of God for their lives.
 
AndrewLong said:
Good posts all.

Then, in the obedience of God, are homosexuals condemned to be single, lonely, and unhappy for the rest of their lives? 😦
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They are asked to be chaste. We all have our crosses. Taking up your cross is meritorious to God.

Being single does not mean you are lonely. There are four vocations in life.

Sex at all costs is a lonely life for it lacks fulfillment… Happiness is not the goal. Joy is. And the end game is eternity.
 
Publisher said:
I don’t believe too many of us use our free will to intentionally “offend God”.

Deciding what God finds acceptable and what He does not IS why we’re having this discussion…some of us feel we have it figured out based on dogma, scripture and our religious authorities…others do not embrace what “religious authorities” tell us God wants…we seek God and to understand Him differently…and unfortueately come to differing conclusions…but let us not accuse one another of willingly seeking to “offend God”, as those on this forum from all indications seek to understand the will of God for their lives.
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Remember my ambulance scene challenge? Ready to take it up yet?
 
AndrewLong said:
Good posts all.

Then, in the obedience of God, are homosexuals condemned to be single, lonely, and unhappy for the rest of their lives? 😦
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I don’t know what God has in store for every individual. However, it would seem that at least many people who are attracted to the same sex are indeed called to a single, non-religious life. This does not equal lonely and unhappy for the rest of their lives though. I myself am content to know that God created me and breathed life into me for some reason or another. Although this reason is unknown to me, I am thankful that God Himself saw me existing as basically good, and thus created me. So, until I die, I will hopefully continue to thank Him by doing what is pleasing to Him. That makes me happy (most of the time:p ).
 
buffalo said:
They are asked to be chaste. We all have our crosses. Taking up your cross is meritorious to God.

Being single does not mean you are lonely. There are four vocations in life.

Sex at all costs is a lonely life for it lacks fulfillment… Happiness is not the goal. Joy is. And the end game is eternity.
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And one of the vocations is married life, which a lot of homosexuals find joy in.
 
AndrewLong said:
And one of the vocations is married life, which a lot of homosexuals find joy in.
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Married life by God’s definition is between a man and women. Male and female He created them.

How do homosexuals consumate their so called marriage?
 
FaithofAbraham said:
Arsenokoites literally means MAN SEX. And we all know what that means. There is a difference between people who just have hormonal disorders, and people who are simply consumed with lust and like to do anything that’s perverted, homosexuality being one activity. It’s the latter one that the Bible is really against, in my view. So there can be no broad approval or disapproval of homosexuality since it may go case by case. We aren’t supposed to hate gays but we aren’t supposed to blindly approve of those activities either, especially when they go on parade.
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Wow! That is the clearest, most concise post I have ever read from you! I completely agree with the above statement. There can be no broad approval. See how easy it is to just answer a question without trying to proselytize or show how “wrong” we Christians are by using Scripture “against us”? Finally!👍
 
buffalo said:
Married life by God’s definition is between a man and women. Male and female He created them.

How do homosexuals consumate their so called marriage?
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I suppose they can’t. I just don’t understand why God would shut out two beings in his image regardless of gender.
 
🙂 hi every one excuse me for jumping in. i beleive there is one religious reason for being against homosexual activity and that is God commanded us to be fruitful and multiply. homosexuals can not meet that commandment. God does love homosexuals though, everbody’s favorite St John3:16. Jesus said some are born enunchs,which means one who can not multiply, i think perhaps he was refering to homosexuals.this applies only to those who truly feel that they are this way,not some who tried it and prefered this satisfaction of the flesh.it would be very pleasing to God if one in this condition were to live a chaste and holy life.Jesus will closer to those who truly need him then those who are in less need of Him. What would one give more compassion to a bird with a broken wing or one that flies freely.peace(this only my opinion in this regard)
 
fbl9 said:
🙂 hi every one excuse me for jumping in. i beleive there is one religious reason for being against homosexual activity and that is God commanded us to be fruitful and multiply. homosexuals can not meet that commandment. God does love homosexuals though, everbody’s favorite St John3:16. Jesus said some are born enunchs,which means one who can not multiply, i think perhaps he was refering to homosexuals.this applies only to those who truly feel that they are this way,not some who tried it and prefered this satisfaction of the flesh.it would be very pleasing to God if(this is my opinion only)one in this condition were to live a chaste and holy life.Jesus will closer to those who truly need him then those who are in less need of Him. What would one give more compassion to a bird with a broken wing or one that flies freely.peace
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Thanks for jumping in! That was very interesting to read.
 
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