God's chosen & the Hardening of Pharaoh's Heart

[simplynoone]

About all I can say is I am glad it brings you peace. I do not agree with your understanding of the OT or NT. I hope you find your salvation I know I have mine in Christ Jesus.

Thank you. I do. I can clearly see whose faith it is that was built on something solid. That would be the faith of Jesus, Judaism. Maybe 2,000 years longer it will start sinking in with the Church that Paul’s faith was truly blind.

 

[workingman]

Thank you. I do. I can clearly see whose faith it is that was built on something solid. That would be the faith of Jesus, Judaism. Maybe 2,000 years longer it will start sinking in with the Church that Paul’s faith was truly blind.

Yup the faith of Jesus was built on somthing solid. He fofilled the law fully for me. Since as siners we can not do that. Thankfuly Jesus Christ founded Christianity. Paul was not blinde he saw Jesus for who he we the Messia and follwed his teachings.

 

[simplynoone]

Yup the faith of Jesus was built on somthing solid. He fofilled the law fully for me. Since as siners we can not do that. Thankfuly Jesus Christ founded Christianity. Paul was not blinde he saw Jesus for who he we the Messia and follwed his teachings.

I say this with kindness:

**The faith of Jesus was Judaism and NOT Christianity!!! **

Matthew 5:17-19 Jesus was not Christian, thank the goodness of God; else who KNOWS how long we could be stuck here within this curse.

 

[workingman]

I say this with kindness:

**The faith of Jesus was Judaism and NOT Christianity!!! **

Matthew 5:17-19 Jesus was not Christian, thank the goodness of God; else who KNOWS how long we could be stuck here within this curse.

Yes, he was Jewish. He only founded Christianity. You repetedly quote St. Matthew5:17-19 so lets look at them.
Matt.5:17 "Do not think that I have com to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.

Yup he did fulfill the law perfectly. As was required by the prophets. You or I could never perfectly fulfill the law.

Matt.5:18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away not one letter, not one stroke of a letter will pass from the law until all is accomplished.

Lets look at what Christ is saying. Till the earth is destroyed and all cration is gone. We all are subjet to try and uphold the law.(p.s. thank you this will be helpfule in another thread).

Matt.5:19 Therefore, whoever breaks on of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, will be called least in the kingdome of heaven; but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

So if we brake the smalest of the commandmenst and teach others like wise we are going to be amongst the least. But if upheld and teach the same we will be amongst the great. Yes as a Christian I am supposed to try and uphold the law.

So simplynoone Tell me then since you left out verse 5:20 from Matt. that fits with the above what did he mean in Matt5:20

Matt.5:20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

 

[simplynoone]

Yes, he was Jewish. He only founded Christianity. You repetedly quote St. Matthew5:17-19 so lets look at them.
Matt.5:17 "Do not think that I have com to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.

Yup he did fulfill the law perfectly. As was required by the prophets. You or I could never perfectly fulfill the law.

How do you know? You do not even know me. You do not even know the Law of God to make such a judgment. I agree that Jesus did, but here’s the break for ya… he did not do it for you.

Matt.5:18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away not one letter, not one stroke of a letter will pass from the law until all is accomplished.

Lets look at what Christ is saying. Till the earth is destroyed and all cration is gone. We all are subjet to try and uphold the law.(p.s. thank you this will be helpfule in another thread).

He did not say what you just said. That is a lie. He said not ONE STROKE OF THE LETTER WILL PASS FROM THE LAW until all is accomplished. Good for Jesus too else I would have nothing solid to stand on and I could not believe the promise in Malachi 3:6.

Matt.5:19 Therefore, whoever breaks on of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, will be called least in the kingdome of heaven; but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

So if we brake the smalest of the commandmenst and teach others like wise we are going to be amongst the least. But if upheld and teach the same we will be amongst the great. Yes as a Christian I am supposed to try and uphold the law.

Again, lies! He said that whoever observes them and teaches them… THEY will be called great. You are teaching that one should try and uphold them. Thus, you are not following the command. Furthermore, how COULD you teach them when you do not even know them? Do you even know the Law of God? Why it is there? Anything about it? No… because you feel guilty and thus, have accepted the sacrifice image of a Jewish man to cover your guilt. That is opposing the spirit of David.

So simplynoone Tell me then since you left out verse 5:20 from Matt. that fits with the above what did he mean in Matt5:20

Matt.5:20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

My answer to this is that the righteousness that exceeds that of the scribes and the pharisees is that of understanding which you sadly do not possess. This was written during a time that understanding was not required just yet… that would be the miracle. Those that had these teachings instilled into them would see wonders and strange things unfold before their eyes… .and all without one of the Laws of God being broken. If you took the time to know the Laws of God and the testimonies of the prophets, perhaps you would be amazed as well.

 

[workingman]

How do you know? You do not even know me. You do not even know the Law of God to make such a judgment. I agree that Jesus did, but here’s the break for ya… he did not do it for you.

You are human there for not perfect. YOU can not hold the law. Not one little iota. Realy I do not think so. Who do you think you are to judge his deads. You do not know.

FONT=“Trebuchet MS”]He did not say what you just said. That is a lie. He said not ONE STROKE OF THE LETTER WILL PASS FROM THE LAW until all is accomplished. Good for Jesus too else I would have nothing solid to stand on and I could not believe the promise in Malachi 3:6.

 

[simplynoone]

You are human there for not perfect. YOU can not hold the law. Not one little iota. Realy I do not think so. Who do you think you are to judge his deads. You do not know.

I hold on to the Law of God with my Life. I count on them standing as is and Gods creation depends on these Laws not being changed or abolished. The Law of God IS my life line. I find them to be beautiful and that God would be so brilliant to establish them the way He did, who am I to argue? Jesus felt the same way. I do not judge his deeds and in fact, I support what he came to do whole heartedly! And contrary to what you think, I do know. I do know because unlike the majority of those who use his name for their own vain purposes, I listened to what he said… and what he said is that he confirmed the Laws and the testimonies as standing the way they are. I can see why too.

That came strate from scripture. You have a faulty book.

What you said did NOT come from the words of Jesus. What I wrote came from what you confirmed as being his words. I am right and you are confused. He did not say that we should try to fulfill them. Go back and read.

You are wrong. Again strait from the Bible. I apparently know them better than you. I know what the Bible teaches. Not the falicieys you spew.

What is a mystery to me is that you quoted his words, I agreed… you tried to translate and I disagreed. I am supporting his words as they are, I just do not support your translation of his words. Thus, I may be wrong, but only in your eyes. Jesus would be rather fond of me that I am defending his words.

Remember the scribes and pharisees are the ones who wanted Jesus to be crusified. They bribed Judas to deliver Jesus so they could have him killed by Pilot. I do not think they are a very favorable source to look to. Once again I know the laws no different than you. Open your heart and mind to what is actualy being spoken in the NT and you maby will understand how Christianity is correct.

Remember, according to Matthew and actual history, Gentiles killed Jesus, and other Jews. It is more consistent and heck, I did not even contradict the NT by sharing this truth with you.

Beleive me, my mind, heart, and soul are open to what is spoken. Christianity is not the faith of Jesus. He did not condone the killing of his people, the breaking of God’s Law, or idolatry. He was not calling out to the Gentiles… he was calling out to his own people, the lost house of Israel. They are the ones that will testify to what I am speaking is truth because it was to them he was reaching out to.

 

[workingman]

Remember, according to Matthew and actual history, Gentiles killed Jesus, and other Jews. It is more consistent and heck, I did not even contradict the NT by sharing this truth with you.

Sight exactly where it says Gentiles killed Jesus in Matthew.

What you said did NOT come from the words of Jesus. What I wrote came from what you confirmed as being his words. I am right and you are confused. He did not say that we should try to fulfill them. Go back and read.What is a mystery to me is that you quoted his words, I agreed… you tried to translate and I disagreed. I am supporting his words as they are, I just do not support your translation of his words. Thus, I may be wrong, but only in your eyes. Jesus would be rather fond of me that I am defending his words.

I quoted Matthew 5:17-20 exactly as it was writen in the NT the NRSV-CE and I am not talking about my interpretation. I was carful to sepparate my interpretaion and the scripture. Your translation is no better. As a matter of fact you have not even tried to explain it in your twisted version. There you go again assuming Jesus would be fond of you. Can you read Gods mind. Do you have a one way channel to know he would be proud of you. You at this point are coming accrost as very obstinant. I could have blolts of lightening shooting out of my *** proclaming the word and you would still call me a liar.

 

[simplynoone]

Sight exactly where it says Gentiles killed Jesus in Matthew.

My pleasure. Matthew 20:19. Now, I have shown this verse many times and the most famous response to displace blame BACK onto the Jewish has been that the Jewish delivered him over. The ironic thing is, it is true! In fact, it was Paul… the teachings that the Church find sacred and follow after. Isn’t that funny? I didn’t really think so.

I quoted Matthew 5:17-20 exactly as it was writen in the NT the NRSV-CE and I am not talking about my interpretation. I was carful to sepparate my interpretaion and the scripture. Your translation is no better. As a matter of fact you have not even tried to explain it in your twisted version.

I have no interpretation. Jesus said it quite clearly. There is no need to interpret that. So what you call my twisted version only goes to prove the theory of John… “and the world knew him not.” You would not even know Jesus if he were standing before you today. It is high time the followers of the Church start crying out to God for the Truth and quit accepting the power of suggestionn that the Church has given to them. I never can decide whether to feel sorry for the followers of the Church considerinig the way they keep you all locked under their grip or to just consider it judgment well served when I see you all receiving the Truth and rejecting it. Judgment of God is so brilliant that most of you do not realize you are doling it out to your own selves. I am trying to help you out here.

There you go again assuming Jesus would be fond of you. Can you read Gods mind. Do you have a one way channel to know he would be proud of you.

If you only knew. Proverbs 2:1-7 I do, in fact, receive my teachings from the mouth of God. Psalm 78:1-5 The Law was established in Israel and the Testimony in Jacob (that would be the Jewish, thank you).

You at this point are coming accrost as very obstinant. I could have blolts of lightening shooting out of my *** proclaming the word and you would still call me a liar.

I am VERY obstinate. It is in my Nature and I do not deny this. I have cause to be and that is understanding all the blood shed of God’s People that has been done to try and cover the sins of the Church. The Church has been drunk of the blood of God’s People and it is made clear all throughout the Tanakh. This anger does not so much stand for the individuals who are being deceived, but it does get frustrating when I am straight out sharing the truth with you all and it is being denied blatantly.

Here is the truth: The sacrifice of blood sent out to the nations to Light the world is not the LITERAL sacrificing of the Jewish individual as the Church has tried to get you to believe. It is that the seed of Israel has been sewn with that of the nations (that’s right… sex The Divine Command given by the True Creator… brilliant, no?). So, there are those who have this perspective of both being the actual sacrifice (wholly in line with the Law of God) and seeing from this vantage point what it is that the world really celebrate in. Talk about the right way to cure the idol worshiping once and for all w/in God’s own People. He is quite brilliant that way. Where is it spoken of… well, Jeremiah 31:27 and Isaiah 52:15. THAT was the true sacrifice the Church has tried to keep you from knowing about via power of suggestion. Well my friend, you have just been informed.

 

[workingman]

My pleasure. Matthew 20:19. Now, I have shown this verse many times and the most famous response to displace blame BACK onto the Jewish has been that the Jewish delivered him over. The ironic thing is, it is true! In fact, it was Paul… the teachings that the Church find sacred and follow after. Isn’t that funny? I didn’t really think so.

I have no interpretation. Jesus said it quite clearly. There is no need to interpret that. So what you call my twisted version only goes to prove the theory of John… “and the world knew him not.” You would not even know Jesus if he were standing before you today. It is high time the followers of the Church start crying out to God for the Truth and quit accepting the power of suggestionn that the Church has given to them. I never can decide whether to feel sorry for the followers of the Church considerinig the way they keep you all locked under their grip or to just consider it judgment well served when I see you all receiving the Truth and rejecting it. Judgment of God is so brilliant that most of you do not realize you are doling it out to your own selves. I am trying to help you out here.

If you only knew. Proverbs 2:1-7 I do, in fact, receive my teachings from the mouth of God. Psalm 78:1-5 The Law was established in Israel and the Testimony in Jacob (that would be the Jewish, thank you).

I am VERY obstinate. It is in my Nature and I do not deny this. I have cause to be and that is understanding all the blood shed of God’s People that has been done to try and cover the sins of the Church. The Church has been drunk of the blood of God’s People and it is made clear all throughout the Tanakh. This anger does not so much stand for the individuals who are being deceived, but it does get frustrating when I am straight out sharing the truth with you all and it is being denied blatantly.

Here is the truth: The sacrifice of blood sent out to the nations to Light the world is not the LITERAL sacrificing of the Jewish individual as the Church has tried to get you to believe. It is that the seed of Israel has been sewn with that of the nations (that’s right… sex The Divine Command given by the True Creator… brilliant, no?). So, there are those who have this perspective of both being the actual sacrifice (wholly in line with the Law of God) and seeing from this vantage point what it is that the world really celebrate in. Talk about the right way to cure the idol worshiping once and for all w/in God’s own People. He is quite brilliant that way. Where is it spoken of… well, Jeremiah 31:27 and Isaiah 52:15. THAT was the true sacrifice the Church has tried to keep you from knowing about via power of suggestion. Well my friend, you have just been informed.

I am through with this discussion. I could show and point and everything under the sun. It does not matter with you. Your obstnance has made you blind. May God have mercy and open your blind eyes. Peace be with you simplynoone.

 

[simplynoone]

I am through with this discussion. I could show and point and everything under the sun. It does not matter with you. Your obstnance has made you blind. May God have mercy and open your blind eyes. Peace be with you simplynoone.

Yes, I hear this often for when it comes to believing God’s Word or the word of a man. I cling with **ALL MY SOUL **to the Word of God as it is written and not as I am told it should be. It is my hope, my rock, my strength, and my security… else, I would have none. It’s okay. And thank you! Peace will be with me. Of this I am sure.