Gods sabbath day

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These are interesting verses iWrecknSow. I guess the key question is whether these are speaking beyond the time of the coming of the New Covenant (per Jer 31:31-34) which fortold of the replacing of the Mosaic law with a new covenant, and the NT verses suggesting that we have our rest in Christ (Hebrews). Or, are you correct in your implication that the Sabbath continues even after the coming of the New Covenant.

The difficulty with the latter view (Sabbath continues) are the apparent express verses in the NT saying that we no longer judge each other by the feastival or sabbaths that we keep and the verses in Hebrews suggesting that our rest is in Christ.

Galations makes it explicit and clear that Gentiles need not follow the mosaic law of become “jews” to be Christian (circumcision, etc). The more meaningful debate is whether jews need/should continue to observe the saturday Sabbath as it was ordained to them “forever” (though the hebrew word used there is “olam” which by context can mean a period of long, but undefined, duration - not forever in eternity - and thus I believe this means until the coming of the New Covenant).

But I appreciate the posts -quite thought provoking indeed.

Blessings,

Brian
Blessed is the man…that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it.Also the sons of the stranger,that join themselves to the lord,…everyone who keepeth the sabbath from polluting it,and taketh hold of my covenant;even them will I bring to my holy mountain,and make them joyful in my house of prayer,for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.Isaiah 56;2,6,7
 
I believe the Sabbath is still as important and was NEVER EVER changed in the Bible. However, The catholic church changed Sabbath to Sunday, since they have ‘the keys of David’
You can believe all the BS that Gould has fed you or you can look to the church fathers .It was custom of the very early Christians to go to temple on Sat. and observe the Lord’s day(Sun.) with the agape meal.Agape meal was the center of the community-when the gentiles flooded into the Church going to temple would have been meaninglress since they were not Jews and Paul spoke against the Judaizers. So are you saying Paul was wrong?Every male should be circumcised and all the Laws all 600 and whatever , should be obeyed. No half measures,right. Since the vast majority of Christians go to church on sunday-that means, by your reckoning that whole lot of us are going to hell in a handbasket.Didn’t God say I require mercy, not sacrifice.Didn’t the prophets chide the people because they sacrificed and observed Sabbath but their hearts were far from Him. You look and only see evil and turn nasty and bigoted toward those who worship on Sunday. .I think the Lord God would rather have us worship Him in Love on whatever day, as somebody else said everyday is holy because of Him, then causing hatred . Hatred is a poison that those who are non-believers see proliferating in Christianity. that makes us hypocrites, ‘actors’ who preach love but don’t act like it. Open your eyes and your hearts brethren.You want to obey the letter of the Law and forget the heart- Love God and your fellow man. Quoting scripture really doesn’t impress me-any parrot can. Do you understand it,love it, Live it? I’ve been striving toward that most of my adult life, and have failed on many occasions.But the Lord picks me up and tells me to start all over again.Only God is love right through- we try to emulate Him in other ways but in that one important thing -Love the easiest to proclaim-and the least practiced.That is a bundantly clear not only on this thread but the whole site. Poor examples we.
 
Let me first say I do NOT twist history, like a lot of sick people out there.

I have done extensive research on the Sabbath Day and to be honest with you was very surprised what the early church fathers taught in regard of the sabbath.
Agape meal was the center of the community-when the gentiles flooded into the Church going to temple would have been meaninglress since they were not Jews and Paul spoke against the Judaizers. So are you saying Paul was wrong?
I do not understand how you convey history. But my understanding is that ALL NATIONS were tied to oneanother, and took each others tradiotions and cultures. For example the Israelites took the tradition of idolatry which was not what God ordered but other nations were doing. And Vice versa. We see that even Egypt knew who God was. the good king of Judah, Josiah tried to fight the Egyptians, but the Pharoah said this:
2Ch 35:20 After all this, when Josiah had prepared the temple, Necho king of Egypt came up to fight against Carchemish by Euphrates: and Josiah went out against him.
2Ch 35:21 But he sent ambassadors to him, saying, What have I to do with thee, thou king of Judah? I come not against thee this day, but against the house wherewith I have war: for God commanded me to make haste: forbear thee from meddling with God, who is with me, that he destroy thee not.
my point of this is Jewish traditons were also adopted by other nations. (Maybe they always kepts the Sabbath? but for this arguement lets say they copied the Jews)
The Babbylonians and Assyrians rested upon the sabbath day. They were known as ‘bad days’ thus they did not work and do not buy or sell etc. please google it if you do not believe me. Remember Nebuchadnezzar gave an awesome testimony in Daniel 4
Dan 4:37 Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.
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read what Jospehus said having to regard the sabbath day, He lived in the SAME time as Jesus.

“There is not any city of the Grecians, nor any of the Barbarians, nor any nation whatsoever, whither our custom of resting on the seventh day hath not come.”

So to say going to the synagogue as a gentile would of been useless and a waste times. Make sure history doesnt say contrary. sabbath was being observed by ALL BABARIANS AND ALL GRECIAN nations.
Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Why didnt the Jews wait until Sunday to be taught the Word of God? Thats right it was the Sabbath Day which they were taught. Intellectual men going on the sabbath to learn about Jesus, not on sunday!
‘Judaizers’

People who keep the sabbath are not the appropiate meaning of Judaizers. A Judaizer is exactly what Peter was until Paul put him back into his place. People who will only mix with Jews and think they are better than everyone, thus not talking to the ‘gentiles’
Every male should be circumcised and all the Laws all 600 and whatever
Everyone should be circumcised.
Jer 4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.
Please also understand Jesus knew the difference between the ten commandments (including the Sabbath) and the mosaic law.
Joh 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
Joh 7:20 The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee?
Joh 7:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel.
Joh 7:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.
Joh 7:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?
I think the Lord God would rather have us worship Him in Love on whatever day
True they are a lot of messed up Adventists out there. Sometimes I just want to shoot myself! Its funny even Ellen white said whole Adventist churches will be missed when Jesus comes again, why is that not read at church? It is really sad to see that people think that worshiping and resting on a certain day will save them.

However God did not say 1 in 7. but the 7th day.

**Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. **
by your reckoning that whole lot of us are going to hell in a handbasket
I never said that. Some adventists do and I think they are idiots and have not read the holy scriptures to come to such a conclusion that to be saved and go to heaven you have to observe the sabbath, I do not believe that. Id believe the Sabbath still matters that is all, not that you are going to hell.
Love God and your fellow man. Quoting scripture really doesn’t impress me-any parrot can. Do you understand it,love it, Live it
 
I agree full heartedly. Preach it brother! Although Jesus summed up the ten commandments in 2 commandments which was love God and your neighbour. so keeping the sabbath can be a sign you love God. Taking a whole day out, no work at all. Just spending that day with family and friends in the fellowship of God is truly a beautiful thing,

You seem like a wise person. Please anyone hear dont listen to those people who twist history and scripture to say that you need something more than Jesus. That is all you need to be saved Romans 6:23
God bless you all.
 
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