Going Ghost Hunting on Halloween!

[UKStudent]

Minerva:

I’m confused as to why you’d want to go on the ghost tour when you’re asking if there are any prayers you can pray for “protection” beforehand. If you worry there is danger involved, why go? If you think it’s just for fun, then why ask for prayers?

Things get boring if you only do what’s safe…

 

[rayne89]

TarAshly- I never said you were going to hell. You seemed very serious at first specifically saying you had “experiences.” An “experience” for me puts up a red flag.

I’m assuming since you are Catholic that you believe there is a hell, which means there is a devil & demons. If I’m correct on this asumption than I believe we’d both agree the devil works against God in every way he can, it is a battle for souls. I believe the devil disguises himself in so many different ways in order to have people fall, and lure them away from Christ. I believe souls lingering around goes against what the Catholic church teaches about life after death.

Now that being said if you would have said “This is all in fun, I don’t really believe in ghosts. Its just something to do to scare myself n Halloween and have a good time.” Fine, go have a good time. I looked at the website, it doesn’t look much different the kind of tactics used by Halloween haunted houses to give people a good scare. But that is not what you said in the beginning of your posts.

I think I’ve said all I want to say on this subject. Peace.

Who you gonna call?
Ghostbusters!
If you’ve had a dose of a freaky ghost
You’d better call
Ghostbusters!

Let me tell you something
Bustin’ makes me feel good

I ain’t afraid of no ghost
I ain’t afraid of no ghost

Don’t get caught alone, oh no
Ghostbusters!
When it comes through your door
Unless you just want some more
I think you better call
Ghostbusters!

Had to do it. Sorry.

 

[rayne89]

Blessed Be

Now to address your question:
I’ve seen you posting around the forum consistanly asking for proof of God’s existance, proof the Catholic Church is the true Church. It doesn’t matter what anybody says to you.

You and I are in 2 very different places. Have you ever heard the saying 'for one who believes no explantion is necessary and one who does not believe no explanation is enough?" That is where we are.

I got pretty peeved yesterday because you said “Just because the Catholic Church says so doesn’t make it true.” This is a Catholic forum, where most but not all are Catholic including TarAshly. And most here take what their faith very seriously. And you what you said insulted what I hold most precious, my faith.

There is nothing I can say to you. You want proof like the apostle Thomas. You want to put your hand in Jesus’ side, you want to touch his wounds. Jesus said, “Blessed are those who do not see and believe.”

I have read much about the Church from early church history but that’s not why I believe, I believe because I have faith. Amazing things have happened in my life since I have truly begun following Christ’s church. My husband used to be agnostic, he constantly asked for proof. But when he came to believe it isn’t because God appeared before him and said “See I am real, this is my true church.” It isn’t because it was suddenly proven scientifically, it the gift of faith.

I’ve seen your arguments all over the forum. It’s all about proof. I can’t give you something tangible for what I know in my heart. I’ve looked at some of the wiccan sites online. They sound very tolerant, very nice - do what you will as long as you hurt no one. As Christians we can not accept “do what you will” we must accept “do my Father’s will”.

I say this with no condescention. I will keep you in my prayers, I hope you keep searching. Our heart is restless until it rests in Him. Peace.

 

[BlessedBe13]

rayne89:

Blessed Be
I’ve seen you posting around the forum consistanly asking for proof of God’s existance, proof the Catholic Church is the true Church. It doesn’t matter what anybody says to you.

No, I already believe in a god and goddess, I am not looking for proof. I said that there is no definite proof on the qualities of the Divine, and so no religion can with certainty say that their view of the Divine is correct and all others are wrong. That being said, there is no proof the the Catholic Church is the “true” church.

rayne89:

You and I are in 2 very different places. Have you ever heard the saying 'for one who believes no explantion is necessary and one who does not believe no explanation is enough?"

I already believe. I don’t need proof of the Divine to believe in it.

rayne89:

And you what you said insulted what I hold most precious, my faith.

I’m sorry, I did not mean to be insulting. Although several here have insulted my faith, as well as other faiths. Just because this is a Catholic forum does not make that right.

rayne89:

There is nothing I can say to you. You want proof like the apostle Thomas.

I already have faith. I do not need proof that the Divine exists.

rayne89:

I believe because I have faith.

Same here.

rayne89:

I’ve seen your arguments all over the forum. It’s all about proof. I can’t give you something tangible for what I know in my heart.

But yet people expect me to give tangible proof of my faith. Not very fair now is it?

rayne89:

I’ve looked at some of the wiccan sites online. They sound very tolerant, very nice - do what you will as long as you hurt no one.

Well, I am glad you think that.

rayne89:

As Christians we can not accept “do what you will” we must accept “do my Father’s will”.

I suppose that is one section we will probably never agree on. Both are good philosophies - just for the religion they come from.

 

[Sir_Knight]

UKStudent:

Maybe she’s going demon hunting then …

Demons are supernatural beings and unless a person has the power of the church established by the Son of God behind them, demon hunting is very dangerous with no chance of victory.

IrenkaJMJ:

Didn’t Fr. Armoth say in his book that ghosts are not what we think they are, but are in reality, demons?

Yes.
The Barrister:

… someone unfamiliar with the ways of the enemy should not stick her head into. What seems like harmless fun and turn harmful in a split second …

Very true.

 

[Prester_John]

rayne89:

I find it interesting that you that you would tell me to lighten up. I read some of your other posts and you have no problem ripping into people when it suits you. You have no problem calling people names and making pejorative remarks when it suits you.

I also find your remark about being bossy quite humorous considering the way you rant at other people.

Blessed are the humble in spirit - you my friend are not blessed in this way. You are just the fountain of knowledge aren’t you? Perhaps it’s time you got nose out of the air you could see yourself in the mirror. May I suggest you direct your predilections away from spreading the gospel according to Prestor John and broaden your horizons to include less of your ownself importance.

Sorry that was not very charitable but then again calling a person a jack *** isn’t either. I make no apologies for what I believe. If I didn’t worry about the dangers here I wouldn’t be so firm in my statements.

Sincerely and respectfully,
Rayne

Dear Rayne,

I have no record of calling you a “J******”, and this was never implied; however, if my comments were taken in this way, then I heartily apologize, even for the implication of personal attack upon yourself or your opinions, that are as valid and equal as anyone’s here. Further, I retract all comments made on this string, and leave all of you in peace. Not to excuse, but to explain - perhaps this particular subject has touched a cord on a far more visceral level than I realized, and I will now refrain from posting here again,as obviously I seem to be remarking from a level that is more self-centered than rational and reasoned. Please excuse my behaviour, and pardon me for any offenense implied.

 

[TreeHugger]

Prester John:

Tree Hugger, believe not, every spirit… to para-qoute from Paul.

And, O Beloved (to be specific, I quote me), DON’T BE SO CREDIBLE.

Hey Prester,
I don’t understand what you were trying to say here…let me know what you meant. if i missed hitting the nail on the head with the question about the Exorcist books, my apologies.

 

[TarAshly]

Hey guys! i did the ghost hunt thing yesterday. it was pretty excitting, im 21 years old and slept with the lights on last night! i got some great pictures met really nice and interesting people and just had a great time! thanks for posting here. if anyone wants any specific happenings feel free to PM me, as im sure what i have to say might offend some people. so creepy stuff happened but it was great!

 

[The_Barrister]

rayne89:

Blessed Be

Now to address your question:
I’ve seen you posting around the forum consistanly asking for proof of God’s existance, proof the Catholic Church is the true Church. It doesn’t matter what anybody says to you.

You and I are in 2 very different places. Have you ever heard the saying 'for one who believes no explantion is necessary and one who does not believe no explanation is enough?" That is where we are.

I got pretty peeved yesterday because you said “Just because the Catholic Church says so doesn’t make it true.” This is a Catholic forum, where most but not all are Catholic including TarAshly. And most here take what their faith very seriously. And you what you said insulted what I hold most precious, my faith.

There is nothing I can say to you. You want proof like the apostle Thomas. You want to put your hand in Jesus’ side, you want to touch his wounds. Jesus said, “Blessed are those who do not see and believe.”

I have read much about the Church from early church history but that’s not why I believe, I believe because I have faith. Amazing things have happened in my life since I have truly begun following Christ’s church. My husband used to be agnostic, he constantly asked for proof. But when he came to believe it isn’t because God appeared before him and said “See I am real, this is my true church.” It isn’t because it was suddenly proven scientifically, it the gift of faith.

I’ve seen your arguments all over the forum. It’s all about proof. I can’t give you something tangible for what I know in my heart. I’ve looked at some of the wiccan sites online. They sound very tolerant, very nice - do what you will as long as you hurt no one. As Christians we can not accept “do what you will” we must accept “do my Father’s will”.

I say this with no condescention. I will keep you in my prayers, I hope you keep searching. Our heart is restless until it rests in Him. Peace.

What a wonderful, wonderful response. You said what needed to be said in a charitable and faithful way.

Blessed Be God!

 

[preyoflove]

UKStudent:

…And as they leave purgatory, to try and make someone ELSE get them into heaven, it’s like they don’t trust God enough, and so they are cast out, back into the world, until they are purified by exorcism or prayer.Could that be possible?..

Basing on Catholic teaching–that is impossible.

Once we behold the Beautific Vision, that’s it. We know who we should be with for all eternity. They are only two destinations left for us, aside from the eternal Heaven–the temporal Purgatory and the eternal Hell. When we have to pass through Purgatory to get to Heaven, all of our being longs to be with God. We could not help but trust in Him utterly in purifying us of all corruption and delivering us into His embrace in eternal happiness in Heaven.

Peace, so be it.

 

[Prester_John]

rayne89:

I find it interesting that you that you would tell me to lighten up. I read some of your other posts and you have no problem ripping into people when it suits you. You have no problem calling people names and making pejorative remarks when it suits you.

I also find your remark about being bossy quite humorous considering the way you rant at other people.

Blessed are the humble in spirit - you my friend are not blessed in this way. You are just the fountain of knowledge aren’t you? Perhaps it’s time you got nose out of the air you could see yourself in the mirror. May I suggest you direct your predilections away from spreading the gospel according to Prestor John and broaden your horizons to include less of your ownself importance.

Sorry that was not very charitable but then again calling a person a jack *** isn’t either. I make no apologies for what I believe. If I didn’t worry about the dangers here I wouldn’t be so firm in my statements.

Sincerely and respectfully,
Rayne

Dearest

You responded to my post honestly, and before I withdraw completely from this string, I must reciprocate the honesty you have shown.
I have, as of this date completed a complete re-cap of all of your posts, in addition to a second look at your posted bio data.

And my earlier apology stands as I meant it, but I want to answer your somewhat impolitic remarks as to my tendency in my remarks about topics with which I have authority. If, in my limited scope of authourity I can find the chance to pontificate, God forgive me , I do; and if, in the strange twists that are sometimes posted in the strings on this forum,if I may add caustic soda to my remarks without cause, I hope in charity to be quickly corrected and given the chance to apologize, then offer amends.

But your comments give no quarter, and take no surrennder by implication…

I have no problem saying things when I have the authority to back up , by either education or experience; or both, what I say. I am prepared fully to defer to any person that overules my posted opinions with greater athourity, and facts to back it, as is the norm in a forum of peer criticism and review. My pejorative remarks are qualified by the conditions I have mentioned.

Humility, as you have surmised, is not a virtue that I possess in perfection; I struggle to attain this saintly goal, as I am sure you do as well,every day of my life; however, this is perhaps not a comment worth remarking upon anymore in such a public forum…

My barracks does not supply mirrors to every room, there is only a great big on in the hallway,and small ones in the men’s washroom. And further, in consulting the Base (Catholic) Chaplain, he assures me that there is no Gospel according to Prester John, only to John, Apostle to Our Lord Jesus, the Christ.
I know of no fountain of knowledge save Our Lord…

You do seem to very convicted in the beliefs and prejudgments that you are comfortable in, and I have no special gift of the Holy Ghost to say to you what I would like to, any more than I have a degree in Theology or Applied Industrial Widgjet design and Execution.

But, may I invite you any time to our Chapel, on the base in Halifax Nova Scotia, fullof pensioners, cripples, PTSD sufferers, widows and orphans, burn victims, and people whose believe is that St Mary is CoRedemptrix, including myself. You would be welcome, and treated as an old friend. You would not come away from us afraid or humiliated, angry or chagrined.

Sincerely, and respectfully, and lighten up, there is still good in this word of tears, and going on a ghost-hunt doesn’t severely risk your soul.

Prester John

Nil Sine Labore

 

[Sir_Knight]

TarAshly:

… so creepy stuff happened but it was great!

Care to share what those “creepy” things were?

 

[TarAshly]

not on the public forum, im sure i would be ridiculed but i would be more than happy to PM you if you wish

 

[Sir_Knight]

PM away

 

[rayne89]

Prester John:

Dearest

You responded to my post honestly, and before I withdraw completely from this string, I must reciprocate the honesty you have shown.
I have, as of this date completed a complete re-cap of all of your posts, in addition to a second look at your posted bio data.

You my friend are a very interesting person. I mean this with all sincerety, do you talk like this all the time? I have met alot of people in my life (I’m sure not as many as you), many highly educated and none have used such elaborate speech in everyday conversation.

As far as my bio, you can hardly expect to know all about a person in a few short statements. You used my bio, my interests in particular, to be condesending - implying my experiences in life have been narrow and sheltered. I can assure you this is not the case. You apologized, so I accept that.

I was uncharitable in my original response to your comment. Whether you believe some one is “educated” or not is no excuse for you to reply with condesencion or arrogance. I have let my temper get the better of me at times, and this was one of those times. I have hard time apologizing because your comments on my interests I have listed in my bio had no bearing on the conversation that was taking place. Even so I did not need to reciprocate, so I sincerely apologize.

My friend you do not know me. You have made a few “prejudgements” of your own.You said you reviewed all my posts. I would hope from my posts you would realize I do not go through life with a heavy heart. I appreciate the gift of life God has given me. I realize I have no gaurantee of tomorrow, and I try to the best I can with what God has given me. I often fall short but I keep trying.

I thankyou for your kind invitation. You touch the lives of people who have been through much difficulty and suffering, and I will pray for you as you continue to perservere.

 

[Prester_John]

RAYNE89;

Thankyou for the very kind words in response to my last post. I will pray for you too, and all of yours.

Pax Tecum,

Prester John