Good lessons for budding Catholic apologists

[VociMike]

:bounce: No time to talk, Eden. Gotta go worship the Mary statue for an hour or the priest won’t let me borrow the bible next week on my annual turn. I missed last year’s annual allowance of one chapter because I questioned all the blacked-out sections. :bible1:

Wow, you get to take home the bible?! We have to read it while it’s chained to the lectern, and the priest whips our hands if we ask any questions or want to read anything by Paul.

 

[Eden]

VociMike:

Wow, you get to take home the bible?! We have to read it while it’s chained to the lectern, and the priest whips our hands if we ask any questions or want to read anything by Paul.

Umm… who’s Paul?

 

[havemercy]

:clapping: Oh, that’s a good one! If I ever get the chance, I may have to try that in person. Look side-to-side…take them by the arm and lead them into a quiet corner…Produce a maniacal look in my eye…“Actually WE DO worship Mary. Join us!”…Embrace them hard!..Don’t let go until they get really uncomfortable…Take off my scapular and chase them down the hall…“Just put this on!!!”

My mom and I just had a laughing fit. You are gifted! You’re one of those people who add to jokes without killing them. Not like those Catholics who added seven books to the Bible, killing Christianity! That and their tradition! Bloody papists!

 

[GodBlessJoanie]

Toooooooooooo Funnnnnnny!

The reality is that there are 33,000 different Christian denominations and One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church – which the 'gates of hell shall NOT prevail…"

Praise to you Lord Jesus Christ!
Blessings,
Joanie

 

[rfritch]

I think you forgot the Koine Greek scholar who just knows that the difference between Petros and petra means Christ was not referring to Peter as the rock. That’s one of my favorites.

 

[Milliardo]

Another thing which I find sad is when you try to refer them to a Catholic site or discussion, some would say, “No thanks”. I find that to be quite low, as I go to non-Catholic forums to know as well what their thoughts are regarding the various issues we talk about here.

 

[Lazerlike42]

You do realize that some of the posts on this page about the priest letting people take the Bible home and whatnot will be on some anti-Catholic site by tomorrow showing quotes from “real live Catholics” to show how terrible the Church is?

 

[Psalm45_9]

scylla:

This is why my trip to go to other boards lasted such a short time. I had to spend hours on the computer just to respond to all the allegations and dodges each time I made a solid point. I unfortunately do not have the time to answer every misconception or to catch every dodge when I am on the forums.
Even when I pointed out cut and paste jobs from anti-catholic sources I would be dismissed and made to answer the same things over and over again.
This is why we need to get more people who have the time and resources to do this. I now am trying to share my faith one on one in my job, and when I interact with people since then I can spend less time on the computer and more with my family.

In Christ
Scylla

That is precisly the reason why I don’t post on other boards and why I don’t usually post in this forum. Over a year ago I debated with an anti-Catholic with a superiority problem for 4 months. We debated S.S. which went no where, we debated: the Mass, intercession of Saints (big debate), OSAS, purgatory, and the Eucharist. This person got suspended, but that wasn’t enough, he created 3 more user names, the most recent attempt was in August. So he’s been suspened a total of 4 times now.

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[Eden]

Lazerlike42:

You do realize that some of the posts on this page about the priest letting people take the Bible home and whatnot will be on some anti-Catholic site by tomorrow showing quotes from “real live Catholics” to show how terrible the Church is?

Yes, of course! My post did not originally have this but I added it because I thought SOMEONE is going to think this is real.

 

[Philthy]

montanaman:

Oh yeah, and don’t forget the “I used to be Catholic” anti-Catholic. They usually expose themselves as frauds pretty quickly.

“Back at St. Isis, I used to be a devout Catholic…”

Oh yeah - not just a Catholic, but a “devout” Catholic. But when asked to produce the proof of said “devoutness” we find, instead, a lack of understanding of some fundamental Catholic theology…hmmmmmm.

 

[Philthy]

"Children-

Let us love not in word or speech, but in deed and truth."

 

[Nicene]

You forgot:

The church wouldn’t let people read the bible The church chained up the bible so people couldn’t read it and learn the truth about how they were being decieved.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene

 

[Psalm45_9]

Nicene:

You forgot:

The church wouldn’t let people read the bible The church chained up the bible so people couldn’t read it and learn the truth about how they were being decieved.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene

I wonder which thread you are referencing?

 

[montanaman]

Psalm45:9:

I wonder which thread you are referencing?

I think he’s addressing nearly every conversation ever had with an anti-Catholic bigot for the last five centuries.

 

[geno75]

lol, could someone rename this thread-
“If Nellie and Willie Olsen were catholic apologetics, it would sound like this.”?

 

[Unfinished]

sigh

We laugh about this, cause it is true. But the sad state of affairs is, 85% of the Protestants I talk with wouldn’t become Catholic if there was a verse that said-

Matthew 87:12 “And the Lord Jesus Christ declared unto them, the Catholic Church is my one true Church, and no matter how many times Satan tries to destory it by twisting my Scriptures, it shall always be my One, Holy, Apostolic Church.”

Just like a girl I used to date. I showed her passage after passage that she just couldn’t explain. I showed her how the church was visible. And I asked “So which church is it?”…she replied “NOT that Catholic church.”

“Why not?”

“Because its wrong.”

The sad part about this is that this stigma is ingrained into a lot of Protestants. If they know it or not. I was speaking with one girl who was shocked when I disproved OSAS to her. It was kind of one of those “How did I just read over that?” moments. She started researching the Catholic faith after that, but I doubt she will ever become Catholic. Not if she wants to keep her family and friends. She went to church the next Sunday and talked about OSAS, taking the Catholic side, and she said she was assulted from every corner.

When I had my run through Protestant land, I found that it was accepting just so long as you agreed with thier doctrine. Otherwise, it was just bitter, angry and judgemental.

Anyways, I didn’t mean to get all serious. Your post did make me laugh out loud quite a few times, but it just upsets me to think about how divided Christianity is.

And it brings up my question I have never been able to get answered by a Protestant. Most Catholics with a Protestant friend have no problem going to the Protestant service, but then when they are asked to come to Mass, they give you this look like you just asked them to sell thier soul. Traditions run deep, and the man made traditions of the Protestant church run just as deep as our history. After all, that part of Christianty was formed our of distrust and loathing of the Catholic Church, why would that change 500 years later?

AHHH. I am ranting! Shut me up. Excellent post.

 

[Alfie]

scylla:

This is why my trip to go to other boards lasted such a short time. I had to spend hours on the computer just to respond to all the allegations and dodges each time I made a solid point. I unfortunately do not have the time to answer every misconception or to catch every dodge when I am on the forums.
Even when I pointed out cut and paste jobs from anti-catholic sources I would be dismissed and made to answer the same things over and over again.
This is why we need to get more people who have the time and resources to do this. I now am trying to share my faith one on one in my job, and when I interact with people since then I can spend less time on the computer and more with my family.

In Christ
Scylla

scylla:

This is why my trip to go to other boards lasted such a short time. I had to spend hours on the computer just to respond to all the allegations and dodges each time I made a solid point.

In Christ
Scylla

Are you sure you had to spend hours on your computer just to respond to all the allegations? It was more like minutes wasn’t it?One thing that is for sure is that none of the moderators on this forum have to spend time answering allegations. They have their pit bulls to do it. It is very odd that 99% of the time I post anything on this forum I generally get a lengthly response to my post in less than 5 minutes. When I first came on this forum it was less than 30 seconds until I would receive a lengthly answer to my post. I must say you guys have everything down pat and fit to a tee. You have everything set up to target the Protestants. Like you said you constantly receive the same old boring questions from Protestants … so don’t sweat it. When you figure out which ones are going to be the greatest threat to you, you blitzkrieg them. I no longer have to worry about that. Like CM says I don’t know what I am talking about. The problem is even if I am inadequate to answer your questions some how, some way, the Holy Spirit will find a way to touch someones conscious inspite of my ineptness and he will show him the truth.

 

[montanaman]

Alfie:

Are you sure you had to spend hours on your computer just to respond to all the allegations? It was more like minutes wasn’t it?One thing that is for sure is that none of the moderators on this forum have to spend time answering allegations. They have their pit bulls to do it. It is very odd that 99% of the time I post anything on this forum I generally get a lengthly response to my post in less than 5 minutes. When I first came on this forum it was less than 30 seconds until I would receive a lengthly answer to my post. I must say you guys have everything down pat and fit to a tee. You have everything set up to target the Protestants. Like you said you constantly receive the same old boring questions from Protestants … so don’t sweat it. When you figure out which ones are going to be the greatest threat to you, you blitzkrieg them. I no longer have to worry about that. Like CM says I don’t know what I am talking about. The problem is even if I am inadequate to answer your questions some how, some way, the Holy Spirit will find a way to touch someones conscious inspite of my ineptness and he will show him the truth.

Keep dreamin’, pal.

 

[scylla]

Alfie:

Are you sure you had to spend hours on your computer just to respond to all the allegations? It was more like minutes wasn’t it?.

There is a big difference between this board and the other boards. Here I can respond quickly and give a factual answer without much question, since it there is a common knowledge on many subjects which don’t need support.
As an example I can quickly respond that Ignatius of Antioch called the Church Catholic about the year 100 without contest because this is true.
On a non-catholic board I have to give references, or else I am accused of lying and document every point in order to factually support every accusation. Catholics are called to give a reason for the faith and cannot just respond with emotion. Spend some time on a forum like Baptist boards and you will see.
This is the truth and you have to believe me since I am a Catholic and for us there is a penalty for lying, so I have absolutely no reason to misrepresent the truth.

Alfie:

One thing that is for sure is that none of the moderators on this forum have to spend time answering allegations. They have their pit bulls to do it. It is very odd that 99% of the time I post anything on this forum I generally get a lengthly response to my post in less than 5 minutes. When I first came on this forum it was less than 30 seconds until I would receive a lengthly answer to my post. I must say you guys have everything down pat and fit to a tee. You have everything set up to target the Protestants. Like you said you constantly receive the same old boring questions from Protestants … so don’t sweat it. When you figure out which ones are going to be the greatest threat to you, you blitzkrieg them. I no longer have to worry about that. Like CM says I don’t know what I am talking about. The problem is even if I am inadequate to answer your questions some how, some way, the Holy Spirit will find a way to touch someones conscious inspite of my ineptness and he will show him the truth.

Catholics have to respond and give truthful answers that is why they respond so quickly. It is just that here we have a lot more references that are universally accepted.
Now any accusation that is factually untrue can be easily responded to, but often on non-catholic boards you get multiple questions at the same time and when you respond to one honestly you are not even acknowledged and asked more questions.
Here you will always get a solid and well researched answer to every objection to the faith. Feel free to ask any question and we will be happy to answer as you can see.

Feel free to PM me as I once attended evangelical Churches and if you would like a rational answer to every objection I will be happy to respond.

God Bless
Scylla

 

[magdelaine]

Alfie:

One thing that is for sure is that none of the moderators on this forum have to spend time answering allegations. They have their pit bulls to do it.

Alfie, you don’t need to be so bitter and paranoid. This is a well traveled board packed with folks that know and love their faith. If that is disturbing to you, I suggest you spend some time away from the boards in quiet prayer. Maybe you could even be open to the suggestion that our Church may very well be Christ’s Church… You need not be afraid of the answer. After all, the truth will set you free.