Goodbye, good Buffalo man

  • Thread starter Thread starter JimG
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
The diocese released a press release which contradicts the bishops own words in those recordings.

And the bishop just had a press conference where he boasted that he receives many letters each week in support of him, and again denied the validity of the statements he was recorded saying.

When he called the press conference I thought he would likely resign. This situation doesn’t feel like reality.
 
Last edited:
Pope Francis has requested the resignation of bishops before, why not Buffalo?
 
Tis_Bearself said:
Can someone please just fire ALL these people and bring in a whole new team?
Click to expand...
Before V2 there was a clearly identified hierarchy. The bishop had more direct control over his seminary, etc, so he couldn’t blame problems on entrenched holdovers, and mostly lay board of trustees, as we have now.

The metropolitan archbishop had a more defined oversight, as did the papal nuncio. Departments of the Curia could, and would, intervene if a diocese was having problems.

Today there is no accountability. The Archbishop Metropolitan is a symbolic leader, who shows up for installation and funeral. The Nuncio and Curia have influence, but less power.

V2 emphasized the horizontal. Theoretically the local bishop gets accountability from the national, and regional, council of bishops.

Obviously, accountability by committee means no accountability at all.
 
Last edited:
The situation keeps deteriorating by the day. Some Colleges are cancelling scheduled appearances by the bishop. Some priests, deacons, and lay leaders are publicly demanding his resignation, including some who were appointed by the bishop, and worked closely with him. Nobody I know of is speaking out in favor of him staying.

Allegedly many of the concerns had been relayed to the current Nuncio, but apparently no constructive action resulted. Complaints were routed back to the local bishop, even if he himself was allegedly part of the problem. If the Holy See does not take action soon, the suspicion and blame will reflect up to Rome.

Please pray for Buffalo.
 
Last edited:
I think Malone is on his way out.

His support is really dwindling.
 
It is sad because he really seems to have lost control of his movie and not want to admit it.

It seems rather hopeless to me too. His whole diocese is in disarray.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
It is sad because he really seems to have lost control of his movie and not want to admit it.

It seems rather hopeless to me too. His whole diocese is in disarray.
Click to expand...
Worse than disarray.
The bishop is the primary problem, and should have resigned long ago. But the level of hatred in some of his opponents must be seen to be believed.

Every year for decades the diocese had a Mass with commissioning service for parish pro life coordinators, followed by a prolife lunch and in-service. This coming Saturday because of scheduled demonstration there, it is cancelled. I was not present at the demonstration a few days ago, but reportedly diocesan employees were blocked from access to their cars and harrassed, though they had no connection with the issue.

Part of the issues that the bishops de facto boss, the papal Nuncio, has failed to respond to complaints in recent years, other than telling the bishop or whoever, that this person complained about you.

As this drags out, more people are starting to blame Rome.
 
Last edited:
Again, prayers for the Buffalo diocese needed.
I have heard of multiple problems at this seminary. Some who l ft the seminary told me of homosexual overtures, which others did not describe. More common complaints were heavy pro Democratic Party and pro feminism agendas, and that doctrine was non existent. Prolife was almost non existent.

Since the diocese is almost certainly heading for bankruptcy, this huge underutilized campus in a wealthy suburban area may well end up gone.
 
The diocese has continued to deteriorate rapidly. Prayers earnestly requested. I don’t have the heart to post news articles, Google Buffalo if you want.
  • I have reversed my position, I no longer defend the Diocesan leaders.
  • Most people demanding the bishops’ resignations are conservative types like me. These are not your Call to Action, “We are Church”, National Catholic Reporter types.
  • It’s very discouraging, as people I had confidence in must have, at least, condoned evil for a long time.
  • This does not in any way reduce the need for pro life, evangelism or Catholic education, but it makes our job much harder.
  • People have been reporting problems to the Apostolic Nuncio and Vatican for years. Pope Francis isn’t responsible for pre-2013 cr*p, but some of the stuff is recent.
 
Last edited:
Was reading a couple of articles the other day, it is very disheartening, Yes, the diocese needs our prayers. When I read the letter shown in Dreher’s article last month, my first reaction was that it is likely all true. That is just because we seem to get horror stories our of seminaries all the time these days. Some felt the former seminarian seemed to have an axe to grind (my words, not theirs) and so it needed to be taken cautiously. It seems as if its not unusual for seminarians to legitimately have axes to grind these days. I do not think its just Buffalo, but I do hope that it is one of the extreme cases. But we need to listen to these seminarians who speak out.

If you are from the Diocese of Buffalo, my prayers are with you.
 
Last edited:
Themediareport.com

This is a resource I found that provides information and perspective on the scandal not found in secular media or Catholic media I have seen. It appears accurate regarding Buffalo, unlike Rod Dreher, Church Militant, etc.

Use it with caution, as with all media now.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top