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Unless Trump wins Wisconsin, I don’t see either candidate with a path to the 1237 delegates needed to secure the nomination. If that happens don’t expect to see Cruz or Trump on the Republican ticket. It will be Romney or Ryan, or maybe Kasich, given his strength in Ohio, which is must win for the GOP, or somebody nobody’s even thinking about now. The key to winning will be getting a candidate that Trump supporters will accept, so think it will be someone nobody is even thinking of ATM.
 
7_Sorrows said:
me too. Romney had his chance in 2012.
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And maybe a chance to win in 2016. He is certainly the most qualified and most presidential of all the candidates. He is one of the few politicians that ran out of true love for our country. He doesn’t make outrageous promises. I don’t believe he is after power. And he is honest.
 
Governor Romney was the choice of the establishment in 2012, so it’s not surprising that they would want him again given that they don’t like what the rank and file are selecting.
 
qui_est_ce said:
And maybe a chance to win in 2016. He is certainly the most qualified and most presidential of all the candidates. He is one of the few politicians that ran out of true love for our country. He doesn’t make outrageous promises. I don’t believe he is after power. And he is honest.
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Nothing against Romney, Ryan, or any other moderate who might be “parachuted in” but I think the establishment should get behind Cruz. We can’t afford a war between the GOPe and the right-wing. (And have you seen the comments about the GOPe on this Catholic discussion forum :eek:.)
 
Just when you thought a once honorable political party could not get anymore dysfunctional!
 
Neofight said:
Just when you thought a once honorable political party could not get anymore dysfunctional!
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It was just an address update. He hasn’t filed to run for president. I don’t think he has any intention of doing so.
 
Peter_J said:
Nothing against Romney, Ryan, or any other moderate who might be “parachuted in” but I think the establishment should get behind Cruz. We can’t afford a war between the GOPe and the right-wing. (And have you seen the comments about the GOPe on this Catholic discussion forum :eek:.)
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I have seen them and noted the ones that are straight from the Dems play book. Others are fabrications of what the liberals would have us believe about the GOP? As an aside, many of the Republicans say that recent candidates have been too moderate. It would be interesting to see what they would do with a real conservativ
 
Crossbones said:
Governor Romney was the choice of the establishment in 2012, so it’s not surprising that they would want him again given that they don’t like what the rank and file are selecting.
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I’m not sure what will cure the Repub party’s wounds, since they keep re-opening them. Arguably (and some do so capably) Romney lost because too many ideologically “pure” Repubs stayed home and wouldn’t vote. So we got four more years of leftist politics.

And we’re seeing that phenomenon again. I’m all for everything the National Review and the Tea Party and all those folks stand for. They’re for the rule of law, constitutional government, fiscal responsibility. I get it. But Romney was hardly against those things. He just wasn’t pure enough to satisfy them.

He is a good man, and they let him down. But I would add that I think his chances of being the nominee are less than zero.
 
I don’t rule out Romney or Ryan being nominated at the convention.
 
ucfengr said:
I think we are living in a time were we could realistically see the Presidential nominee of both parties be people who didn’t run in the primaries. Obviously, the GOP doesn’t want either Trump or Cruz to be their standard bearer, but just as obviously, the Democrat Party doesn’t want Sanders to be theirs. If Hillary continues to falter, look for a push to get the superdelegates to decline to vote for either, throwing the nomination to Biden, or perhaps, Elizabeth Warren. Both could be trusted to continue both parties Wall Street-centric policies.
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I think, based on what has happened to their own party, it’s tempting for Republicans to want to see the Democrats as deeply fractured as well, but the fact is, they just aren’t.

The Democrats have two strong candidates running, but at the end of the day, the vast majority of Democrats will stand behind the party’s nominee in November. And given what has happened to the Republican Party this election cycle, I believe the vast majority of the country’s voters will stand behind the Democrat nominee in November as well.
 
Neofight said:
It doesn’t matter. If Trump lacks the delegate count for nomination, neither he nor Cruz will be nominated. As appalled as the old guard GOP is with Trump, they absolutely loathe Cruz and he will not get the nomination either.

What will in fact happen, is (1), the party elite is going to is going to nominate who they want, even in the face of GOP voters who clearly do not want a tradition Republican to run, but more importantly, (2), the GOP is so dysfunctional, and has inflicted so much damage on itself that they will lose the bid for a Republican White House regardless of who (Hillary, Bernie, or the Easter Bunny) the Democrats nominate.
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Excellent post. I agree wholeheartedly.
 
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