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i went to confession tonight. so am i on the track back to heaven, or do i need to recieve the eucharist to complete it? (i had to go after mass, and wont be able to attend for about two weeks) 
Missing mass is a grave matter that ought to be considered.i went to confession tonight. so am i on the track back to heaven, or do i need to recieve the eucharist to complete it? (i had to go after mass, and wont be able to attend for about two weeks)![]()
what i mean is that i will be able to go on the second weekend, not skip two weekends. i have to go to my dads. oh, and i know that it is not good to miss mass, but like lying, it is no-longer a mortal sin.Missing mass is a grave matter that ought to be considered.
Otherwise, you could be right back in the same boat.
How is it that you will miss mass for two weeks?
No, it not like lying. Your Sunday mass attendance is a serious matter.what i mean is that i will be able to go on the second weekend, not skip two weekends. i have to go to my dads. oh, and i know that it is not good to miss mass, but like lying, it is no-longer a mortal sin.
i wanst saying that it was like lying, i was just using lying as a comparison, because i dont want to claim what i cant back up. look, its not a mortal sin to miss mass. i know while it is a serious part of catholicsim, it is not a mortal sin for a 14 year old to miss mass because he has to go to his dads. i go when i can.No, it not like lying. Your Sunday mass attendance is a serious matter.
For most people who can get to mass with a little effort, missing mass is a mortal sin. Only in extreme circumstances is missing mass not a sin. For a 14 yr old who is dependent on a parent who wonât take them, this could be an extreme circumstance.i wanst saying that it was like lying, i was just using lying as a comparison, because i dont want to claim what i cant back up. look, its not a mortal sin to miss mass. i know while it is a serious part of catholicsim, it is not a mortal sin for a 14 year old to miss mass because he has to go to his dads. i go when i can.
Traditions donât get you into heaven, period. Have faith in Christ and you will be justified and forgiven in Godâs eyesâŚi went to confession tonight. so am i on the track back to heaven, or do i need to recieve the eucharist to complete it? (i had to go after mass, and wont be able to attend for about two weeks)![]()
Really? The I suppose that you reject the very tradition that is the only real source that tells us authoritatively what books of the Bible are inspired canon, since you cannot define the inspiration of any particular book of the Bible as inspired from within its own pages.Traditions donât get you into heaven, period. Have faith in Christ and you will be justified and forgiven in Godâs eyesâŚ
Where does the Catholic Church teach ans such thing? It doesnât⌠thatâs whereIf you believe traditions get you into heaven you donât know Christ, or atleast in the proper senseâŚ
You wonât find a faithful Catholic who will argue thatâŚChrist died for your sins did he not?
As a faithful Catholic I can resoundingly say AMEN! & ALLELUIA! I believe every word of what that verse says! I just do not believe your very fallibly human interpretation of it.Well⌠Romans 4:2-5 âFor if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory, but not before God. For what saith the Scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh, is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believes on him that justifies the ungodly; his faith is counted for righteousness.â
Really? So all the times that Our Lord and the apostles and the New Testament writers make clear references to traditional teachings and documents they were working their way into heaven?Traditions can also be considered works in an almost exact sense- And works as you could note in that passage donât bring you glory, but simply puts God in debt so that he owes you something⌠and even so, no amount of good works will get you into heaven, that means traditions as wellâŚ
Really? I disagree, as does the word of God. The Eucharist IS Scripturalthe Eucharist is a tradition
Again the Word of God and I disagree. Catholic Confessionand so is confessing to one another,
Really? Not according to Hebrews 10:25 Not forsaking our assembly, as some are accustomed; but comforting one another, and so much the more as you see the day approaching.as well as attending mass
better start rewriting the word of God then I guess.⌠so obviously none of those do you any good towards getting to heaven.
Gee! We seem to already know and practice that.Also⌠Romans 5:9 âMuch more then being now justified by his(Jesusâ) blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him (Jesus).â
Your loss and error, as the Word of God shows.In my religion we donât even have mass,
and therefore relating sin with attending mass is nonsensual.Really? Then you must have believed another gospel then since the New Testament is full of the Mass (1st Corinthians 10:16-17 and 11:23-30 as well as other scriptures as well as the writings of the early church.and therefore it isnât considered sin at all for us⌠being as we base our religion on Godâs Word and Christ, it would seem odd for us never to mention something that was commanded out of Godâs Word, but thatâs exactly my point, the mass isnât even hinted at inside of the Bible,
Coleraine, I dont know who told you it is not a mortal sin, but it is wrong teaching. Missing Mass (apart from legitimate reasons) on Sunday is always sin. It is the breaking of the third commandment. But more than this, we miss being with the Lord and receiving Him and Him being in our hearts. We miss the food for the journey to heaven.what i mean is that i will be able to go on the second weekend, not skip two weekends. i have to go to my dads. oh, and i know that it is not good to miss mass, but like lying, it is no-longer a mortal sin.
For goodness sake where do all these evangelicals come from? dont they have a forum of their own? Must every evangelical find his/her way to a catholic discussion board? What is it with them. This is the second Catholic discussion forum I have been on where evangelicals with their nonsense invade. Please moderators.!!!:banghead:Traditions donât get you into heaven, period. Have faith in Christ and you will be justified and forgiven in Godâs eyesâŚ
If you believe traditions get you into heaven you donât know Christ, or atleast in the proper sense⌠Christ died for your sins did he not? Well⌠Romans 4:2-5 âFor if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory, but not before God. For what saith the Scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh, is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believes on him that justifies the ungodly; his faith is counted for righteousness.â
Traditions can also be considered works in an almost exact sense- And works as you could note in that passage donât bring you glory, but simply puts God in debt so that he owes you something⌠and even so, no amount of good works will get you into heaven, that means traditions as well⌠the Eucharist is a tradition and so is confessing to one another, as well as attending mass⌠so obviously none of those do you any good towards getting to heaven.
Also⌠Romans 5:9 âMuch more then being now justified by his(Jesusâ) blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him (Jesus).â
In my religion we donât even have mass, and therefore it isnât considered sin at all for us⌠being as we base our religion on Godâs Word and Christ, it would seem odd for us never to mention something that was commanded out of Godâs Word, but thatâs exactly my point, the mass isnât even hinted at inside of the Bible, and therefore relating sin with attending mass is nonsensual.
Hi GA!For goodness sake where do all these evangelicals come from? dont they have a forum of their own? Must every evangelical find his/her way to a catholic discussion board? What is it with them. This is the second Catholic discussion forum I have been on where evangelicals with their nonsense invade. Please moderators.!!!:banghead:
GraceAngel.
GraceAngel.
CM,Having spent many years among various n-Cs I know very well that most of them consider this their version of âwitnessingâ to us Catholics.
Hello CM,Hi GA!
Good to see you around again!
Donât sweat it. In the long run people like Romans 4 offer us an opportunity to read their beliefs here and respond with the truth.
The Forum Rules and Banned Topics are pretty specific and so long as a person is reasonable, charitable and respectful of us and our most holy faith then I have no problems with them posting like this.
Having spent many years among various n-Cs I know very well that most of them consider this their version of âwitnessingâ to us Catholics.
Personally, I maintain a policy that if you witness to me, I reserve the right to offer my Catholic counter witness, which as many have seen, will ultimately challenge the person to give very serious consideration to converting to the Catholic faith.![]()
They really donât know any better at all. Most of them have been wrongly taught about Catholicism. I can assure you that they will never learn it on their own forum! All that will happen is that their erroneous thinking will be reinforced. I think that persons such as this are part of the reason for having the forum. Pray for them!For goodness sake where do all these evangelicals come from? dont they have a forum of their own? Must every evangelical find his/her way to a catholic discussion board? What is it with them. This is the second Catholic discussion forum I have been on where evangelicals with their nonsense invade. Please moderators.!!!:banghead:
GraceAngel.
GraceAngel.
As a person who spent a long time lapsed an in Protestant communities, I think you are right, it is opportunistic. Evangelicals are taught to âbe instant, in season and out of seasonâ ie; donât miss a single opportunity to share the gospelI am perplexed by it. It seems somewhat opportunistic, and like I said above, almost predatory.
The vast majority of distortions, though, are done in ignorance. Most evangelicals have never studied any church history.Iâve also seen my fair share of what looks like a non-Catholic Christian purposefully of knowingly distorting the truth or historical facts in order to âwinâ a convert.
Absolutely! Gotta get those poor souls out of that âwhore of babylonâ. God have mercy.Do you know what I mean? Did you ever resort to such seemingly cut-throat tactics when you were a non-Catholic?
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I know what you mean. You will find that most of them are on the Apologetcs fora, though, and if you wish to avoid them, you can find refuge in the Spirituality and Christian living fora.Hello CM,
It sounds like its OK for you that we are their âmission fieldâ I resent this because I come to this board because I like to hear and speak and be with other Catholic minded individuals. I am a bit tired (having listened for several years on another board the rantings of rabidly anti catholic evangelicals) and thought that this being Catholic Answers and Peter Kreeft at the helm there would be more âcatholicâ than anything else.
Anyway, I will be away for a week (in Rome) so I wont be able to answer but if you post for me will reply on return.
Good night and God Bless
GraceAngel.