Yes, but the same applies to the hierarchy of the Church. If it didn’t then by almoners all Papal appointments would not be because of the Holy Spirit, now would they? Or are you saying that the Holy Spirit had nothing to do with the election of all the Popes?
An to answer the questions, no it wouldn’t be corrupt to follow Cannon Law, it might be inmoral, but not corrupt of the Cannon Law, that is. Corruption would be to turn a blind eye to such law after receiving a donation, which would probably be more moral. The corruption of a law does not mean immorality, specially when laws are inmoral.
Probably the priest just does not like the parents, or is waiting for a donation. I like the way you think, outside the box. This is another way to fight unjust laws.
Where have you been? History didn’t start yesterday. Years ago, there wasn’t much required to get a child baptized. Just show up after the noon Mass on Sunday, fill out the paperwork, and VOILA! your child got baptized. The result of this was what was called a “baptism of custom” whereby the day of baptism was the first time the family darkened the doors of the church. After that, the next time they came around was to get the child his first communion. The last time they ever showed up at church was for his confirmation, if that. You can see how it became just a custom. In an attempt to make these sacraments something meaningful, the Church started requiring a demonstration of commitment to the faith. This included some instruction, among other requirements, for parents and potential God-parents.
I am saying that the clergy, including the Pope are here to serve the Church not the other way around, a close reading of the Last Supper account in the Gospel of John will give you the background.
You just described a method of control. Great! Now I don’t have to write about it.
And your point is?
There is no sense in participating in a jaded perspective of the Church just because not all of the people involved are saints. Any organization, especially one as large as the Church must have rules and processes. It would be best if everyone would participate within the boundaries of these and instead of trying to buck the system or get around the system, treat all with charity, respect and work towards salvation together.
Ok so now I am very concerned, if I have to have my soul clean before I do any sort of promise, and I need to make a promise of not sinning again in order to receive absolution, then those promises were not valid because my soul wasn’t clean to begin with. How could i ever get absolution in the first place?
I would agree with this but you noted the reason of why I disagree which is the same argument you used, it works both ways. I’d rather work the system that works against me than work with the system and work against my self.
“Control”? How so?
What? This post seems to be defying basic logic.Great answer. The Hierarchy of the Church forgets about this most of the time, they are the worst example of Charity and Justice, and promulgate laws that only benefit a human organization instead of a supernatural organization that is the Church.
Exactly my point. In order to make a promise one does not need to be clean of sin. This applies to god parents and parents alike. The baptism should not be hindered just because there is sin in the life of the persons that are not receiving the sacrament. Imagine going in to confession without being baptised in the first place. Also if I am an adult and would want to be baptised without parents just god parents, do I have to confess my sins first? Isn’t confession for those that are baptised?
Why don’t you just baptize your granddaughter yourself, you seem to have all the answers. Of course, the truth is, you’d rather force the priest to do whatever it is you want just out of ritual and social reasons. It does not seem that imparting the Catholic faith is something that interests you.
Yes - The Catholic Church recognizes most protestant baptisms. At least the child will be baptized, and at some point could join a Catholic Church.
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