Grandparents are over so parents probably won't let me go to mass

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Mass starts in 20 minutes but my mom is out shopping with my grandma and my dad is making dinner. I just know they’re not gonna let me go. I could technically drive there myself, but what takes priority: going to mass or honoring your parents?
 
Mass starts in 20 minutes but my mom is out shopping with my grandma and my dad is making dinner. I just know they’re not gonna let me go. I could technically drive there myself, but what takes priority: going to mass or honoring your parents?
Go to church. A bad order from authority is null and void.
 
It depends on your age. There is a time in which we are subject to our parents and as far as I know we can’t just ignore them or it would constitute mortal sin. If you are old enough (though don’t ask me to define enough) you can and should go. Ultimately you want to address this with a priest soon.
 
Mass starts in 20 minutes but my mom is out shopping with my grandma and my dad is making dinner. I just know they’re not gonna let me go. I could technically drive there myself, but what takes priority: going to mass or honoring your parents?
Talk to your parents about this, not strangers.
 
Mass starts in 20 minutes but my mom is out shopping with my grandma and my dad is making dinner. I just know they’re not gonna let me go. I could technically drive there myself, but what takes priority: going to mass or honoring your parents?
How would you be dishonoring your parents by fulfilling your obligation to go to Mass? :confused:

I can’t see it. If you have to miss dinner, well, so be it. I don’t know if your parents are Catholic but if they are, THEY are also choosing to miss out on Mass. Don’t make their sin, your sin.

I hope that you went to Mass.
 
It’s okay my dad ended up letting me go. 🙂
Glad you got to go. 🙂

Imo, if you are underage, you should not disobey you’re parents in order to go to Mass. Definitely do everything you can respectfully to get their permission, but don’t disrespect them or battle with them about it. Pray for God to soften their hearts, but always, always honor your parents. God will take care of the rest. 😉
 
Glad you got to go. 🙂

Imo, if you are underage, you should not disobey you’re parents in order to go to Mass. Definitely do everything you can respectfully to get their permission, but don’t disrespect them or battle with them about it. Pray for God to soften their hearts, but always, always honor your parents. God will take care of the rest. 😉
The OP can also ask his or her pastor about the situation. When the priest knows what the situation is, he can tell the OP the circumstances under which the pastor grants a dispensation and when he doesn’t. He may also know some places that offer Masses at times that the OP does not know. Just because Mass is over at one’s home parish does not mean there isn’t a Mass that can be found somewhere else nearby.

It is also considerate to find out from parents whether the OP could choose a Mass that is at a time the most convenient for the parents to have their child absent from home, or if you can run any errands for them while you are out, such as going to the grocery store after Saturday night Mass. If you are the only one in your household going to Mass, it is a good witness to make it a point of making observance of your religious duties as considerate as possible towards the rest of the household.
 
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Good! Next time, make your plans ahead of time and then just GO.
:eek: No. If the OP is a minor child she should not be advised to just leave the house and go somewhere if her parents have told her no. That’s called sneaking out or running away. It’s wrong, it’s dangerous, and it’s irresponsible to tell a child to do so.
 
:eek: No. If the OP is a minor child she should not be advised to just leave the house and go somewhere if her parents have told her no. That’s called sneaking out or running away. It’s wrong, it’s dangerous, and it’s irresponsible to tell a child to do so.
She didn’t say her parents had told her “no.” She assumed her parents would not let her go. I do not know that she is a minor child, she hasn’t said. If her parents are Catholic they are under the same obligation that she is, to attend Mass every week even if someone is in from out of town. That is NOT running away. Believe me, I know the difference.
 
She didn’t say her parents had told her “no.” She assumed her parents would not let her go. I do not know that she is a minor child, she hasn’t said. If her parents are Catholic they are under the same obligation that she is, to attend Mass every week even if someone is in from out of town. That is NOT running away. Believe me, I know the difference.
According to the OP’s public profile, the OP does not turn 17 until July. She is old enough to leave the house according to previously set-up rules–“If you want to go to Mass on Sundays and I’m not up yet, you may go, but only if you drive directly to church and directly back”–but not old enough to be driving herself around without letting her parents know where she is, who she is with, and when she will be back. Actually, at our house, all the adults in the house let at least one other one know all of that, and that included my MIL, who was still capable of living alone. You’re never too old to run into trouble, disappear, and to desperately need someone to know when and where to start looking for you.
 
She didn’t say her parents had told her “no.” She assumed her parents would not let her go. I do not know that she is a minor child, she hasn’t said. If her parents are Catholic they are under the same obligation that she is, to attend Mass every week even if someone is in from out of town. That is NOT running away. Believe me, I know the difference.
I think it’s a pretty standard rule that kids can’t pick up the keys and just leave the house without telling anyone because they assume that if they ask they will be told no. At least every parent I know has that rule. If it were my kids I would freak out if they just took the car and left without telling me where they were going. I would stay home and call everyone I knew and my husband would go out looking for her. And the end result would be a severe grounding and no more mass for a very long time.
 
I think it’s a pretty standard rule that kids can’t pick up the keys and just leave the house without telling anyone because they assume that if they ask they will be told no. At least every parent I know has that rule. If it were my kids I would freak out if they just took the car and left without telling me where they were going. I would stay home and call everyone I knew and my husband would go out looking for her. And the end result would be a severe grounding and no more Mass for a very long time.
BEL, you’re not a Catholic. The OP and her parents ARE Catholic, and thus they are ALL obligated to attend Mass every Sunday (or Sat. vigil) NO EXCEPTIONS unless they are ill or otherwise involuntarily indisposed. So making up false situations just isn’t helpful. She is obligated to attend Mass. You can’t ground someone from fulfilling an obligation. And if 2 Catholic parents disciplined their child for attending Mass?

:nope::banghead:
 
BEL, you’re not a Catholic. The OP and her parents ARE Catholic, and thus they are ALL obligated to attend Mass every Sunday (or Sat. vigil) NO EXCEPTIONS unless they are ill or otherwise involuntarily indisposed. So making up false situations just isn’t helpful. She is obligated to attend Mass. You can’t ground someone from fulfilling an obligation. And if 2 Catholic parents disciplined their child for attending Mass?

:nope::banghead:
You don’t think that would happen? Obviously if she thinks that her parents wouldn’t let her go to mass because her grandparents are in town then they are obviously not Catholic or lapsed. Yes, they would discipline her just like I hope you would have disciplined your sons for taking the keys and leaving without telling you where they were going. Heck, I think even a lot of practicing Catholic parents would be angry with their kids for just leaving without saying anything even if they did go to mass. Parents don’t deserve to worry about their kids like that.

And I think my thought process would be very similar to her parents and many others. “If going to church motivates my child to take off like that behind my back then there are going to be some serious restrictions on church”.
 
You don’t think that would happen? Obviously if she thinks that her parents wouldn’t let her go to Mass because her grandparents are in town then they are obviously not Catholic or lapsed. Yes, they would discipline her just like I hope you would have disciplined your sons for taking the keys and leaving without telling you where they were going. Heck, I think even a lot of practicing Catholic parents would be angry with their kids for just leaving without saying anything even if they did go to Mass. Parents don’t deserve to worry about their kids like that.

And I think my thought process would be very similar to her parents and many others. ** “If going to church motivates my child to take off like that behind my back then there are going to be some serious restrictions on church”**.
Wrong line of thought. And I am posting this to correct your use of upper-case.

I would ask my sons to let me know where they were going, but if it were 5 pm on Saturday evening, I think I could rightly assume they were going to Mass. I would never punish my sons for going to Mass, confession, adoration, to speak to a priest, etc. Even if they forgot to tell me where they were going.

We’re not going to agree on this. The OP said in previous posts that her parents ARE Catholic and it really doesn’t matter if they are lapsed or not. They are still under the obligation and should understand that she is as well.

Besides, where did I ever say that she should not tell them where she was going? I said, “Just go,” by which I mean, “Do not let your parents’ plans get in the way of meeting your obligation.” She assumed they would “probably” not let her go to Mass, but she was wrong, her father allowed her to go.

:rolleyes:

Why are we arguing about this?? :confused:
 
Wrong line of thought. And I am posting this to correct your use of upper-case.

I would ask my sons to let me know where they were going, but if it were 5 pm on Saturday evening, I think I could rightly assume they were going to Mass. I would never punish my sons for going to Mass, confession, adoration, to speak to a priest, etc. Even if they forgot to tell me where they were going.

We’re not going to agree on this. The OP said in previous posts that her parents ARE Catholic and it really doesn’t matter if they are lapsed or not. They are still under the obligation and should understand that she is as well.

Besides, where did I ever say that she should not tell them where she was going? I said, “Just go,” by which I mean, “Do not let your parents’ plans get in the way of meeting your obligation.” She assumed they would “probably” not let her go to Mass, but she was wrong, her father allowed her to go.

:rolleyes:

Why are we arguing about this?? :confused:
So you didn’t mean that she should leave without telling them, just that when they say ‘no’ she should go anyway? Yeah, that’s the kind of behavior that minors shouldn’t be encouraged to engage in. They are her parents, they have the right and responsibility to set rules and limits about where she can go and when. Honestly, the line “No, I’m sorry but you can’t leave tonight; your grandmother is in town and we are going to do X with her as a family” is not out of line.

I can’t imagine that any responsible priest would encourage a teen to ignore their parents rules and leave the house anyway. Yikes that’s just bad advice.
 
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Good! Next time, make your plans ahead of time and then just GO.
:eek: No. If the OP is a minor child she should not be advised to just leave the house and go somewhere if her parents have told her no. That’s called sneaking out or running away. It’s wrong, it’s dangerous, and it’s irresponsible to tell a child to do so.
So you didn’t mean that she should leave without telling them, just that when they say ‘no’ she should go anyway? Yeah, that’s the kind of behavior that minors shouldn’t be encouraged to engage in. They are her parents, they have the right and responsibility to set rules and limits about where she can go and when. Honestly, the line “No, I’m sorry but you can’t leave tonight; your grandmother is in town and we are going to do X with her as a family” is not out of line.

I can’t imagine that any responsible priest would encourage a teen to ignore their parents rules and leave the house anyway. Yikes that’s just bad advice.
BEL
You are really beating a dead horse here.

What any 17 year old should do, is to make the plans (with her parents) ahead of time, as TRJ has said. Then when the time comes, just go.

Making the plans ahead of time means that she isn’t sneaking away. In fact, she is doing the opposite. She is talking about how something will work and then putting that plan into action.

Also, no Catholic parent would punish their child by telling them they can’t go to Mass. No more than any other parent would punish their child by telling them they can’t go to school. It just wouldn’t happen.
 
So you didn’t mean that she should leave without telling them, just that when they say ‘no’ she should go anyway? Yeah, that’s the kind of behavior that minors shouldn’t be encouraged to engage in. They are her parents, they have the right and responsibility to set rules and limits about where she can go and when. Honestly, the line “No, I’m sorry but you can’t leave tonight; your grandmother is in town and we are going to do X with her as a family” is not out of line.

I can’t imagine that any responsible priest would encourage a teen to ignore their parents rules and leave the house anyway. Yikes that’s just bad advice.
OK, dear, I’m going to lay it out once more and then unsubscribe to this thread. The OP has told us that she did get to go to Mass so I have no idea why you are so up in arms about something that didn’t even happen. :confused:

“Hey Mom and Dad, I know Granny and Gramps are here, so I am going to go to the Vigil Mass on Saturday. That way, I will be able to spend all of Sunday with you and them. Can I have to car to drive to Mass on Saturday?”

Dad then says, “Dear daughter, actually, we had planned to take Granny and Gramps out to their favorite restaurant on Saturday night, and you know they like to eat early, so if you can go to the early Mass on Sunday, that would be better for us. By the way, last time you used the car, you forgot to put gas in it, please remember this time!”

“Sorry, Dad, it won’t happen again.”

Making plans includes discussing with parents ahead of time. :rolleyes:
 
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