Greeting a Kafir

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Sister_Amy said:
Okay, whew.
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As a woman, you should consider who you speak to in this world. I am a man, and a large on at that with martial arts training. I speak to everyone. 😃
I really don’t know. Or I maybe I don’t understand the question.
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For example, are you allowed to speak to another woman’s husband? A Single man? A man that you do not know? I am sure that there are exceptions made for work and school, but are you told in what ways you can interact with men?
Why would it matter?
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Because I want to know what a kaafir is, how you deal with them, and all that. If there are rules about it, you must have a way to indentify them as such.
 
ralphinal said:
As a woman, you should consider who you speak to in this world. I am a man, and a large on at that with martial arts training. I speak to everyone. 😃
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I don’t have a habit of walking down dark allies to ask thugs in hoodies what time it is… if that’s what you mean.
For example, are you allowed to speak to another woman’s husband? A Single man? A man that you do not know? I am sure that there are exceptions made for work and school, but are you told in what ways you can interact with men?
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If I am going to speak to someone, it is with purpsoe. If I could not speak to another woman’s husband, I could not talk to my imam (either of them.) Women could not have asked the Prophet (saws) direct questions. That doesn’t make sense as a restriction, even.

And quite often I do speak to married men, single men, men I don’t know. At work, at school, at the mosque, at the store–whereever. It hardly matters. What does matter is that I conduct myself properly and don’t isolate myself. I am not meeting with a man alone, for example. I don’t do that. Always in a public space or in a group. And I’m always covered (unless at home and the man is a relative.) And the conversation has some purpose.

But the only restrictions I know of are that I should be covered properly, and not alone.
Because I want to know what a kaafir is, how you deal with them, and all that. If there are rules about it, you must have a way to indentify them as such.
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What rules?
 
Whew, I’m worn out just reading this.

Sister Amy:

Would your restrictions on speaking to men be narrower if you were living in the Middle East? I think that’s what we as non-Muslim Americans are relating this and other questions to.

Thanks.

Peace Be With You.
 
happilycatholic said:
Whew, I’m worn out just reading this.

Sister Amy:

Would your restrictions on speaking to men be narrower if you were living in the Middle East? I think that’s what we as non-Muslim Americans are relating this and other questions to.

Thanks.

Peace Be With You.
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I can’t imagine why they would be.
 
Sister_Amy said:
I don’t have a habit of walking down dark allies to ask thugs in hoodies what time it is… if that’s what you mean.
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Not that extreme, but yes.
If I am going to speak to someone, it is with purpsoe. If I could not speak to another woman’s husband, I could not talk to my imam (either of them.) Women could not have asked the Prophet (saws) direct questions. That doesn’t make sense as a restriction, even.
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And quite often I do speak to married men, single men, men I don’t know. At work, at school, at the mosque, at the store–whereever. It hardly matters. What does matter is that I conduct myself properly and don’t isolate myself. I am not meeting with a man alone, for example. I don’t do that. Always in a public space or in a group. And I’m always covered (unless at home and the man is a relative.) And the conversation has some purpose.
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But the only restrictions I know of are that I should be covered properly, and not alone.
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Thanks, that makes sense.
What rules?
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It seems like there are rules for interacting with Kaafir, like the not greeting them, not being friends or allies with them. What is a kaafir? What is someone who kufr? That word does not exist in my Alabama vocabulary, so I need a translation.
 
ralphinal said:
It seems like there are rules for interacting with Kaafir, like the not greeting them, not being friends or allies with them. What is a kaafir? What is someone who kufr? That word does not exist in my Alabama vocabulary, so I need a translation.
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i quote the following from an Islamic site:

In Islamic terminology the word kafir, if spoken without an object, is used for those who reject the Islamic Faith

Ralph, kufr is a noun. Kafir is an adjective. Yakfur is the verb in present tense.
 
So then what are the rules for dealing with one who does ‘kufr’ Amy?
 
nebula said:
I’ll be interested to see the Muslim response. If this is accurate this is insanity.
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All I know is that the Muslims I’ve had the privilege of knowing have not behaved like that: something a lot of people could say. 🙂​

The quotation, however authentic, is not evidence that all Muslims are like that, or that all agree with it, or even need to. Digging up quotations that put a religion in a bad light is not difficult: a lot of Christians do it to Catholicism; & we are often not convinced; why should this quotation, however genuine as as a sample of Muslim jurisprudence, be convincing as proof of the character of Islam ? Catholics in the UK, like those in the US, have been a minority with absurd myths & & half-truths told about them: it would be frightful if a later minority were to be subject to the same treatment. 😦
 
inJESUS said:
i quote the following from an Islamic site:

In Islamic terminology the word kafir, if spoken without an object, is used for those who reject the Islamic Faith

Ralph, kufr is a noun. Kafir is an adjective. Yakfur is the verb in present tense.
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So, am I a kufr? I reject the Muslim faith. Am I guilty of Yakfur? Am I a kafir American?
 
Actually there are different types for “Kufer” per the following.

1) The Great Kufer:
a) Abjuration Kufer, as when the Jews rejected Muhammed (Quran 2:89) (Quran 6:33).

b) Pride Kufer, as when Satan refused to bow down to Adam when commanded by Allah (Quran 2:34).

c) Hypocrisy Kufer, as for those hypocrisy worshipping Allah (Quran 2:8).

d) Skepticism Kufer, as when you are in doubt about the religion of Muhammed (Quran 18:35-38)

2) The little Kufer:
That is only for Muslims, when they disobey one or more of the Islamic dogma principles, per these hadiths:
(E1) (A1) (E2) (A2)

References:
islamqa.com/ar/ref/21249
el3b.com/islam/islamic_school/AQIDAH/a2-4.html
 
Sam_777 said:
Actually there are different types for “Kufer” per the following.

1) The Great Kufer:
a) Abjuration Kufer, as when the Jews rejected Muhammed (Quran 2:89) (Quran 6:33).

b) Pride Kufer, as when Satan refused to bow down to Adam when commanded by Allah (Quran 2:34).

c) Hypocrisy Kufer, as for those hypocrisy worshipping Allah (Quran 2:8).

d) Skepticism Kufer, as when you are in doubt about the religion of Muhammed (Quran 18:35-38)

2) The little Kufer:
That is only for Muslims, when they disobey one or more of the Islamic dogma principles, per these hadiths:
(E1) (A1) (E2) (A2)

References:
islamqa.com/ar/ref/21249
el3b.com/islam/islamic_school/AQIDAH/a2-4.html
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So, am I the skepticism kafir?
 
Most Muslims hate it when infidels like us greet them in an Islamic way like “salaam alaikum.” They think only Muslims have the right to greet “peace be upon you.” If you want to greet Muslims, greet “marhaba” to them.
 
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