GSA tells Biden that transition can officially begin

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Does this mean that the lawyers will stop filing fraud memes with the various courts?
 
Says you, again disagreeing with Faucii. If we have almost 2,000 people dying daily from the virus right now, and it is spreading unchecked throughout all the states, I don’t think saying ‘thousands might die’ if no transition plans are made, is exaggerating. If anything I’m concerned it may be too late to do anything constructive. Probably many thousands will die regardless of what happens now.
 
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Says you, again disagreeing with Faucii.
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Well, again, Fauci has often disagreed with Fauci. Lockdowns disagree with Fauci. Closing schools disagrees with Fauci. But somehow Cuomo, Murphy, Newsom and de Blasio aren’t held to that standard. So I really don’t care about the regularly ignored Fauci opinion.
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If we have almost 2,000 people dying daily from the virus right now, and it is spreading unchecked throughout all the states, I don’t think saying ‘thousands might die’ if no transition plans are made, is exaggerating.
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Correlative, not causative. The deaths, sad though they are, are not related to the fewer than 20 days we are speaking of. Biden takes office on January 20th. Trump will continue to run the government until then, thank goodness, and the vaccines will likely be well into distribution by January 20th.
More importantly, the premise continues the false narrative that Biden has sone unique power or plan to stop people from dying from the virus. It’s untrue. Worse still, if it is true and he hasn’t shared it for political purposes, that is diabolical at best.
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Probably many thousands will die regardless of what happens now.
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They probably would have died if Trump had allowed transition in October.
 
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The governors of states have as much if not more responsibility, I see no criticism of them hence I think the complaints are not too strong.
 
He won’t try to downplay the severity of it or the need for a coordinated national response; I guess that is something of an advantage, if not a ‘super power’. As for Trump’s governing, as far as the virus goes, he hasn’t bothered to attend a coronavirus task force in months. I think it’s safe to say he’s checked out.
 
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The governors of states have as much if not more responsibility, I see no criticism of them hence I think the complaints are not too strong
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The governor of Illinois gets criticized every time he goes on air.
 
tomarin said:
He won’t try to downplay the severity of it or the need for a coordinated national response;
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Trump never downplayed the need for response. He did honor the constitutional limits in federal power. He did everything he was asked, according to Fauci. Most importantly, he is directly responsible for the unprecedented readiness of at least two vaccines and at least one therapeutic through Operation Warp Speed.
Now, in saying this, I do not mean to take a credit away from privately owned pharmaceutical companies.
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As for Trump’s governing, as far as the virus goes, he hasn’t bothered to attend a coronavirus task force in months. I think it’s safe to say he’s checked out.
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You have no what he has or hasn’t done in the WH.
 
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Isn’t it true that lots of public health officials disagree with each other and even change their own spin on issues??? Even the cdc and The Who???
 
Trying not to follow it as much as I have in the past. Most of what passes for news has little to do with me or my life, and very little of what information it contains is actionable. When possible I prefer long-form reporting in weekly or monthly publications.
 
Sure we do. His schedule is public, and he isn’t doing much of anything right now (not that I’m complaining).

And yes, he did downplay the virus. He lied about its virulence repeatedly when he knew better, and he undercut his own virus advisors’ advice at every turn (presumably so as not to spook the stock market). He even promoted his own quack cures which were unproven and possibly dangerous. His abdication of leadership on the virus has been one of the worst political failures by a leader in my lifetime, and one of the worst disasters to happen to the United States in my lifetime. He made a bad situation much worse than it had to be.
 
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Then i would have to disagree with him. Anyway, he’s probably not at liberty to say a lot of things that would embarrass his notoriously thin-skinned and vindictive boss.
 
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Sure we do. His schedule is public, and he isn’t doing much of anything right now (not that I’m complaining).
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Again, you have no way of knowing that. That said, if more federal office holders did less, we’d all be much better off.
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And yes, he did downplay the virus.
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Yes, he did, out of compassion. He gave his reasons to prevent panic.
Now, the presumptive president elect intentionally tries to increase panic and scare people for political ends.
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He lied about its virulence repeatedly when he knew better, and he undercut his own virus advisors’ advice at every turn (presumably so as not to spook the stock market).
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That’s not what Fauci said. You seem to want to pick and choose what you want about Fauci.
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presumably so as not to spook the stock market).
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Are you in favor of spooking the stock market? There are tens of millions of Americans who have 401k’s, IRA’s etc.
This is what happens when demonizing the president takes priority of the lives of Americans, both their health and financial wellbeing.
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He even promoted his own quack cures which were unproven and possibly dangerous.
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He asked questions. I know that the progressive view of America opposes varying viewpoints and free exchange of ideas, but I think at every turn he has done well with his efforts on the virus. And by asking questions, people learned.
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His abdication of leadership on the virus has been one of the worst political failures by a leader in my lifetime,
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The claim of abdication is blatantly false, as Operation Warp Speed proved.
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one of the worst disasters to happen to the United States in my lifetime.
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Again, I know the Biden’s would disagree, but this disaster is worldwide and is rightfully placed at the feet of the tyrants that rule China.
 
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Then i would have to disagree with him.
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You just spent a number of posts criticizing me for disagreeing with Fauci (not sure that I actually did on this point). The double standard is stunning.
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Anyway, he’s probably not at liberty to say a lot of things that would embarrass his notoriously thin-skinned and vindictive boss.
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All if a sudden, you hold dr. Fauci in such low esteem.
Considering the listing being done by the left, one could argue he would be better off contradicting Trump so he doesn’t end up targeted for retribution.
 
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