Gun ownership in this day and age

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Vonsalza said:
At some point, you’ve got to end the arms race before someone actually uses the devices being made.
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Wait…now you want to disarm the military? Or reduce their arms to that of citizenry? Again your arguments are so incoherent it’s hard to keep up
 
Could you imagine a society where when men got mad at each other they could express revenge with their tanks?

Whole cities would burn and you honestly can’t see that.
 
Vonsalza said:
There are actually morons out there that think common citizens should have access to similar equipment available to the military.
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I wouldn’t call your arguments moronic. You put out a well thought reasoning why military has far more firepower than citizenry, contrary to intent of 2nd amendment
 
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Could you imagine a society where when men got mad at each other they could express revenge with their tanks?
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I didn’t until I read your arguments that people are out armed by military. It was insightful post
 
The handful of Puckles made weren’t common arms to the founders (very obviously). Muzzle loaders were.

A single man could hardly take over a bridge or other spot important to commerce with such a device.
 
Laws should be passed that criminals are only allowed to carry black powder guns.
 
And this’ll work for me. Taylors custom tuned .45 Colt (only rookies call it Long Colt). $600 and change at Bud’s! Load it with Hornaday or Buffalo Bore heavies its a great carry choice.
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While I still think the final all-metal wonder nines of the late 90s are some of the finest handguns ever made, a wheel gun will do everything you’d ever need a pistol to do - with inherently less kick oweing to the greater mass of the weapon.

And they’re a good bit more difficult to accidentally discharge than an average semi.
 
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And this’ll work for me. Taylors custom tuned .45 Colt (only rookies call it Long Colt). $600 and change at Bud’s! Load it with Hornaday or Buffalo Bore heavies its a great carry choice.
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Nice pick. I’m looking at an M&P 2.0 Compact in 9 mm, but this thread has me about to order three or four AR 80% lowers as well. A buddy of mine runs stations at the local range, and I wouldn’t mind showing up with a PCC. Great home defense weapon, and Vonsalza wisely points out that one of the prices of not living in a police state is knowing that even violent madmen are free until they display their violent madness.
 
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I wouldn 't want anything under 20 oz. The Colt clones weigh 35oz or so, depending on barrel length. I have a .357 that’s a bit long at 4.75" , and an Uberti .45 birdshead that’s just right at 3-1/2". Only carry those safely with 5 rounds. But if you need more than 5 you’re in a battle, not a self defense situation.
 
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My Henry lever action steel carbine loads 7+1. 16-1/2" barrel for home maneuverabilty. No scope, just offhand. Great sights. Plenty accurate. It’ll load hotter stuff. A .357 at 1400 fps will stop any bad guy right quick.
Here’s a review. Didn’t realize the 158s had that much muzzle energy! Black bear ready, but felt recoil is like a .22. That’s how well made Henrys are.

http://www.thegunreviews.com/rifles/henry-repeating-arms-big-boy-steel-357-carbine/
 
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The Shield is a bit light for me, but I’m just funny that way. I’ve carried a full sized 1911, lol!
 
You need to read the wiki before you try and post it as a defense.

So much for internet scholars…

Everyone knows the American workhorse during the revolution was the brown Bess.

Muzzle loader.

Better luck next time.
 
Ever since coming to my position on guns in general, I’ve come to love lever guns. For closer shooting they’re my go to. Further out is bolt territory.
 
Right. Think average shots fired in a self defense situation falls between two and three.

I also like using snake shot in my 357 on occasion. Versatile pistol.
 
It is a flat out great round. Not so fun from my snubbie but from the Taylor’s Runnin’ Iron or the Henry, smooth as butter.
 
Vonsalza said:
Everyone knows the American workhorse during the revolution was the brown Bess.
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And everyone also knows that good generals will be familiar with the enemy’s weapons. The Ferguson was in use by the British during the American revolution.

So, again, you are wrong about the tech the founding fathers were familiar with.
 
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