Gun ownership in this day and age

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Almost got this paid off with Buds. Grizzly defender, with .45 +Ps. Not sure about CCW though. Its a tank! But being a Ruger, you can carry six.
 
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tafan2 said:
And I am not in favor of that.
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you are not in favor of what, someone defending them self with the proper amount of force?

if your daughter needed a gun to stop a crazed attacker, you would not be in favor of that? unfortunately that is a real life scenario.
ewohdrol said:
Can you give me your source please?
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...-offences-show-a-decrease-in-computer-viruses
ewohdrol said:
Let’s not pretend that it is safer to live in the US per capita.
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that is where you are wrong, per capita. We have issues, but it is in small pockets of this great nation. There are areas here that beat UK numbers hands down.
tafan2 said:
I made about the second amendment
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If I may ask, are you an american?
tafan2 said:
@TK421 was entirely accurate when he/she stated that the idea the second amendment protects an individual right to own a gun is a recent event, 2008 as a matter of fact.
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thefederalist.com

The Second Amendment Has Always Been An Individual Right

Justice John Paul Stevens says Heller was the worst decision during his tenure on the Supreme Court.That tells us plenty about his legacy.
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So also then, the 1st amendment is outdated as we have the social and commercial media to program us how to think and speak. Does that sound good?

As to tanks, they run out of fuel. I also note that there is plenty of fertilizer to immobilize many tanks. Also, the military can revolt against a tyrannical government. Happens in the 3rd world on a regular basis. And, we are very close to third world in some aspects.
 
Not really. It’s easy to point. It’s another thing to pull the trigger.
 
upant said:
Can you give me your source please?
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Ummmm. Your source does not support you at all. It clearly shows US are much worse per capita!! Keep reading. It shows that knife crime in the UK, while up statistically, are still much lower than the US mediun per capita. Gun crime is even worse for the US (by over x5 the amount).

Thanks for backing me up. I’m not sure of your point to be honest.
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I think this entire thread is based on a faulty premise. Guns and gun ownership are morally neutral.

The problem is an increasingly violent culture which is producing murderers at an unprecedented rate.

That is the problem.
 
Yes it is.

So what is the solution. I can think of one.
Take away the tool that allows them to do it so easily.
 
Sftyvlv1 said:
Am I committing a sin purchasing a gun for that purpose without a licence?
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A sin? Probably not. You need to differentiate between “sin” and “breaking the law.” I’m not familiar with Canadian gun laws but I am assuming you are saying you need a license to purchase a handgun in Canada.

In the US there is no licensing requirement per se to own a gun unless you are purchasing an automatic firearm (“machine gun”) though many states require a permit to carry a concealed firearm.

Is this what you are talking about? A permit to carry one or a license to purchase one?

As for the sin aspect IMHO it would not be a sin just to purchase and own a firearm. Everybody - despite the laws of man - has a God-given right to be able to defend themselves by any means necessary up to and including a weapon of some sort.

However, if you resort to false pretenses (i.e., forging your wife’s signature) to obtain the necessary license you would be both breaking the law and committing the sin of Bearing False Witness (lying).

My 2-cents.
 
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tafan2 said:
We need to remember that the use of force for self-defense must be in proportion to the threat. I do not get the feeling that most people who advocate having a gun for self-defense often consider this.
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So you are saying if someone charges at you with a knife, you are going to use nothing more lethal than a knife to defend yourself?

Personally, if someone comes charging at me with a knife, I’m going to shoot him.
 
It’s the psycho suicide-shooter murders that are up today. Ironically, these were virtually non-existent in the days you could walk into Sears and walk out with a gun. Or mail order a firearm:
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And you would be justified, legally and morally. You fire until the threat is neutralized.
 
I remember the days of those ads well. Many were disposing of surplus WWII arms, from a number of countries.
 
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