Gun ownership in this day and age

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Vermont, New Hampshire. I lived in both. Way more guns than people, extremely safe.
 
And what about the supposed correlation to an increase in guns leads to an increase in murders?
 
Emeraldlady said:
Yes, that was the same in most Western countries during that time. The ideological difference is that when gun crime began to rise leading countries to restrict guns, the US decided to increase gun ownership. Blind Freddy can see the correct correlation since then.
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The opinions foreigners hold about US gun laws mean exactly doodly squat.
In fact, the only opinions that matter to me are my county sheriff’s and the sheriff of the Nevada county who issued my Nevada non-resident permit. The former says I can carry three guns concealed on my person, the latter says I can carry as many as I want. In fact, I can open carry nearly everywhere in Nevada.
And if somebody doesn’t like it, tough.😁🤡
 
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Yep. “Gun free” counties, essentially.
And at least 80% of murders are gang related.
 
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Kinda looks like the electoral map if you change the colors.😀
 
prayerrider said:
The opinions foreigners hold about US gun laws mean exactly doodly squat.
In fact, the only opinions that matter to me are my county sheriff’s and the sheriff of the Nevada county who issued my Nevada non-resident permit. The former says I can carry three guns concealed on my person, the latter says I can carry as many as I want. In fact, I can open carry nearly everywhere in Nevada.
And if somebody doesn’t like it, tough.😁🤡
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Completely agree. Where I live there are probably 3 guns for every person, and it’s extremely safe. I’m not sure who all here isn’t from the U.S., but fortunately we have the 2nd amendment where gun grabbing politicians can’t just enact their fantasy of confiscation.
 
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Emeraldlady:
Yes, that was the same in most Western countries during that time. The ideological difference is that when gun crime began to rise leading countries to restrict guns, the US decided to increase gun ownership. Blind Freddy can see the correct correlation since then.
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Other stats explain your chart. Peak gun ownership in the US was 1977-80. 51% of households reported owning guns. That has continued to decline since then due to the turning tide of faith in the gun. In 2014 only 32% of households reported owning guns. 6 out of 10 people in the US now desire stricter gun control. However there is an increasingly wide gap between the powerful few stockpiling guns and those who recognise the common good is soundly served by removing guns from the community.

The murder stats themselves are nothing to boast about either since the US ranks up there with lawless and violent communities at 4.7 murders in every 100,000 compared to western gun control countries where the rate is around 1 to 1.5 murders per 100,000.

http://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS Reports/GSS_Trends in Gun Ownership_US_1972-2014.pdf

www.worldatlas.com

Murder Rate By Country

Murder rates are rising in some countries across the world, the highest being in El Salvador, Jamaica, and Venezuela.
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The violence in the U.S. is mainly concentrated in areas with high gang and drug related violence. Wanna take a guess if those are legally owned guns or not?

Gallup had the gun ownership rate at 42% of households. Again, that’s your legal gun owners reporting.

I suppose if people don’t like it they can start the process to amend the constitution.
 
It is true that the UK reports a higher rate of violent crime than the USA, but this is because the UK has a much broader definition of violence, for example gentle pushing would be reported as a violent crime in the UK, but not the USA. I speak as a Brit who just can’t understand the American fixation with guns and is astonished that ordinary Americans do not demand the repeal of whichever amendment to their constitution that allows such widespread ownership of items made and designed to kill
 
It goes back to the revolutionary period. There was this country that decided it was cheaper to force citizens to house their troops with no guarantee of payment. Which lead to the 3rd amendment which like the first is protected by the 2nd.
 
A few comments:
  1. Make every effort to come to decisions in union - husband and wife in agreement.
  2. Seek compromise to bring unity (make a gun locker/safe to insure no child could get access to a gun)
  3. Realize that the husband in the head of the wife - and he is the one who has the final responsibility to safeguard the family.
  4. In a situation when the husband must exercise his headship even in opposition from the wife because grave responsibilities are involved, then he must. The example of Adam and Eve - when Adam remained silent when he should have been head - shows a counterexample that marital agreement is not the ultimate good - Truth is.
  5. I hope your dear wife can be helped to understand the above. If it “goes south” one day, she will understand and be grateful.
 
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Angannas said:
It is true that the UK reports a higher rate of violent crime than the USA, but this is because the UK has a much broader definition of violence, for example gentle pushing would be reported as a violent crime in the UK, but not the USA. I speak as a Brit who just can’t understand the American fixation with guns and is astonished that ordinary Americans do not demand the repeal of whichever amendment to their constitution that allows such widespread ownership of items made and designed to kill
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Apparently concern over the widespread ownership of items made and designed to kill explains why the U.K. passed a law making it illegal to sell knives (with blades over 3") to people under 18, or to carry one “without good reason”. It also explains why the mayor of London announced that the police would stop and frisk anyone suspected of carrying such a weapon.

Clearly the U.K. needs to do this as the murder rate by knife has jumped significantly. After they get rid of the knives I imagine they’ll have to take out after shillelaghs.
 
prayerrider said:
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Emeraldlady:
turning tide of faith in the gun.
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When it comes to self defense or target shooting, I have plenty of faith in my gun. When I pull the trigger, it goes bang. Every time.
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But people that want guns for protection don’t use them for protection. They don’t guard the young and vulnerable and the US has such a shocking record of massacred school children. We know with 100% certainty that there will be more massacres of this nature but where are all the gun owners organised to protect them? There is a very strong attitude of so long as I’m ok and protect my lot, too bad about the rest. It’s such an antisocial ideology.
 
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