Gun ownership in this day and age

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And my point remains that gun owners will seek the training on their own. We as firearm enthusiast like training. We like going to the range. If it makes you feel warm and fuzzy then by all means lobby your state reps to require training for CCW holders.
Yes, many will seek training. But some won’t. So by claiming in all caps, that “THEY HAVE HAD THE REQUIRED TRAINING,” you are ignoring the fact that for some, there is no required training.

Rather then turning it on me, that I somehow need, “to feel warm and fuzzy,” how about just stating facts?
 
Our course is eight hours, with renewal every two years. Every CCW holder I know spends far more time at the range than that, though.
This is the thing the gun grabbers don’t get because they are afraid and don’t understand guns. Fear breeds irrational thinking. EVERY gun owner I know prides themselves on knowing tactics, and having tight groups. We compete with each other on this. For those who fear guns “tight groups” means you are able to consistently shoot on or near the bullseye. It’s a sign of proficient marksmanship.
 
Yes, many will seek training. But some won’t. So by claiming in all caps, that “THEY HAVE HAD THE REQUIRED TRAINING,” you are ignoring the fact that for some, there is no required training.
Every time a state has had “shall issue” concealed carry permits the gun grabbers come out generating irrational fear that there will be blood in the streets and it will be the wild west. THE FACTS prove that it does NOT happen. Law abiding gun owners go about their day, and when needed they defend themselves from muggings, car jackings, etc. Its in the news frequently.
 
Then state that. Just stick to the facts.

By claiming that all concealed carry permit holders have had the required training, when some require no training, you undermine your own claims.
 
I am amazed that you are against such a thing.
I am not against it. I simply have no opinion that is superior to the police and the people of Great Britain as to how best equip themselves. I am ignorantly familiar with the situation.
 
By claiming that all concealed carry permit holders have had the required training, when some require no training, you undermine your own claims.
CCW holders do need training on gun laws such as where you can carry, when you can shoot, etc. I did a quick Google search and I think what you mean are the seven states that just allow concealed carry without a permit. If these people want to carry out of state they do have to apply for a permit. I believe that gun owners will get the necessary training on their own. Ask yourself if you really need an instructor to tell you common sense things like “keep guns out of reach of children”. We all know this. Those of you who are afraid of guns see gun owners as all drunken idiots named Bubba who shoot beer cans off their friends head. The evidence shows that when permits are issued the CCW holders are not engaging in rampant violence.
 
am not against it. I simply have no opinion that is superior to the police and the people of Great Britain as to how best equip themselves. I am ignorantly familiar with the situation.
Think about it. If a UK officer comes up against an offender armed with s knife or gun is he better off armed or unarmed? Is the UK immune from violent and mentally I’ll offenders? Take it further what happens if a female UK officer encounters a 6ft 4inch 250 lb angry subject who is determined not to go to prison so he decides to break the officer’s neck. Isn’t it obvious that having access to a firearm is a valuable option? I shouldn’t even have to be saying these things. Police don’t have the option of running away. They must make an arrest when necessary.

I still want to know why it is that UK detectives carry firearms while everyday cops on the beat who are the ones to first encounter unknown subjects are not armed. The detectives are not in greater danger and they are not wiser or smarter than beat cops.
 
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Yes. That can cause a panic. It can also get you in hot water with those LEO’s.
 
Here is the problem. When I grew up, every farmer and rancher around had guns. They would have thought assault type weapons we’re completely absurd, heck my dad and uncle’s made fun of handguns. When I was a young adult, going to a shooting range, all you saw were deer rifles, and other traditional hunting weapons. Now it’s all ar-15s and military style weapons. Our gun culture has changed, drastically, in the last 30 years, not for the better.
yup sadly its much different era now,…

when I was growing up learning how to shoot was actually an introduction of sorts to math and science,… and pretty sure “shooting” is one reason I studied physics at university

my dad was an engineer by profession, so he made me do simple ballistic calculations and keep a DOPE (Data on Previous Engagements) log,… my reward for doing math problems when I was 10 or so, was a box of .22 and time at the range w/ my dad

was going to try and teach my nephews to shoot the way my dad taught me, thinking it might give them focus and teach self control,… but w/ videogames like call of duty glorying a rock and roll approach to shooting (hopefully you get what I’m trying to say), I’d say outside of boot camp where recruits learn to “snap in”

taskandpurpose[dot]com/marines-learn-shoot

teaching the younger generation to appreciate the old school skill of shooting in this day, is a dead art
 
I have no interest in ARs. I prefer a Henry lever action. As far as handguns go, I find revolvers more fun and I’m more accurate with them than with semis.
 
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